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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Sales & Trades => Topic started by: fullnelson on March 10, 2011, 03:01:17 PM
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Here ya go...
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/vgm/2258956586.html
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BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA oh man the price for a shitty condition copy is just to funny.
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it is sad he took so many pictures of the condition that he has no chance to even con anyone into buying that lol
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time to add a section for craigslist to the ebay gouging thread. That price is a joke!
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That's way way more then I was expecting..
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Good thing he's going for the extra 99 cents.... heh, what a maroon!
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I'm pretty sure that this is a just a joke poking fun at the whole MC gouging, like my Drac X HuCard auction.
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Probably, but sadly the collector twats will see this and use it as justification for what the game is 'worth'.
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Probably, but sadly the collector twats will see this and use it as justification for what the game is 'worth'.
Yeah, gamers have to be careful about what kind of message they send.
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How can you even see what condition it's in from a Craigslist photo? They limit the size so severely everything looks as bad as it does good.
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I love when people say a game is their favorite game to add to its value. Like a copy of the game is worth X, but since this is my treasured childhood copy it is worth 20X.
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How can a case have a "custom authentic" label? :-k
Talk about an oxymoronic statement from a moron. LOL
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If He was serious he'd ask 1500-1800. 10k is insane.
But if someone will pay that.. then all the power to him.
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If He was serious he'd ask 1500-1800. 10k is insane.
But if someone will pay that.. then all the power to him.
:-s
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If He was serious he'd ask 1500-1800. 10k is insane.
But if someone will pay that.. then all the power to him.
$200 would be considered gouging for Magical Chase. It's the poster child for over-inflation.
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If He was serious he'd ask 1500-1800. 10k is insane.
But if someone will pay that.. then all the power to him.
$200 would be considered gouging for Magical Chase. It's the poster child for over-inflation.
I'm basing my numbers on the average "complete" copy of MC goes on ebay - gouge. I've been watching for a long time.. Loose is about 500-600, with manual is 650-850 and with box.. 1500-1800.
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But if someone will pay that.. then all the power to him.
The only reason that Magical Chase goes for more than $30 is because of rich clowns paying whatever they find a game for first, while quickly piecing together an instant collection that will never be played. The game went for years at $100 or less and then skyrocketed to ridiculous prices within a single year. Around the same time that sellers began to manipulate the market. People were quickly bidding up (or manipulating communities for the game) and then immediately flipping the game. Like the a$$hole who paid $13000 for an NES game and then put it back up for $40,000 minimum bid and a Buy-It-Now of $500,000. It's no longer a proper 'supply and demand' situation. It's now people making money off of nothing like the stock market.
It's ruined things for Turbo fans who actually appreciate the games.
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But if someone will pay that.. then all the power to him.
The only reason that Magical Chase goes for more than $30 is because of rich clowns paying whatever they find a game for first, while quickly piecing together an instant collection that will never be played. The game went for years at $100 or less and then skyrocketed to ridiculous prices within a single year. Around the same time that sellers began to manipulate the market. People were quickly bidding up (or manipulating communities for the game) and then immediately flipping the game. Like the a$$hole who paid $13000 for an NES game and then put it back up for $40,000 minimum bid and a Buy-It-Now of $500,000. It's no longer a proper 'supply and demand' situation. It's now people making money off of nothing like the stock market.
It's ruined things for Turbo fans who actually appreciate the games.
Too much truth! I can't take it!
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But if someone will pay that.. then all the power to him.
The only reason that Magical Chase goes for more than $30 is because of rich clowns paying whatever they find a game for first, while quickly piecing together an instant collection that will never be played. The game went for years at $100 or less and then skyrocketed to ridiculous prices within a single year. Around the same time that sellers began to manipulate the market. People were quickly bidding up (or manipulating communities for the game) and then immediately flipping the game. Like the a$$hole who paid $13000 for an NES game and then put it back up for $40,000 minimum bid and a Buy-It-Now of $500,000. It's no longer a proper 'supply and demand' situation. It's now people making money off of nothing like the stock market.
It's ruined things for Turbo fans who actually appreciate the games.
Point understood.
Like as if all the copies of MC suddenly became $2500 from now on when they were for sale.. eventually someone would pay for it, again and again.. and it would be the Norm. (just driving the price even higher). We ourselves are driving the price up.
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We ourselves are driving the price up.
Nope only teh people with more $ than patience/common sense.
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What's keeping all those people from having to liquidate the games out of credit card debt anyway? In these times surely money will dry up somehow.
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What's keeping all those people from having to liquidate the games out of credit card debt anyway? In these times surely money will dry up somehow.
More than a couple of the "GOTTA HAVE IT NOW" or buy a ton of stuff fast peeps have sold off...sometimes not to soon after completion.
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What's keeping all those people from having to liquidate the games out of credit card debt anyway? In these times surely money will dry up somehow.
I'm pretty sure they are doing just that, over and over again. The shit just moves from one guy to the next.
This brings up an interesting idea. Wouldn't it be fun to purposefully f*ck up a game's eBay value. It would be easy to drive the price up, but driving it down would take some cleverness, and some money, of course.
Possible method: Everyone here puts their personal copies of some game like Deep Blue on eBay with $250 BINs and just leave them there forever. If we could get 100 of them on there...that would be f*cking hilarious, and certainly drive up the price. Then we could all dump them at $1 a year later, one after another in a short span of time, and kill the fake price.
Candidate game: it has to be something less common than TV Sports of Keith Courage, but still common, and something not commonly thought to be valuable. Deep Blue maybe, or Yo Bro.
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That's an amazing idea. If I was in the US I would be down for that. I think you guys should have at least two copies to start though, one to sell now for $250BIN, and at least one more to sell next year. Please make this happen guys :D
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This brings up an interesting idea. Wouldn't it be fun to purposefully f*ck up a game's eBay value. It would be easy to drive the price up, but driving it down would take some cleverness, and some money, of course.
sounds good :) and i think "Yo bro" would be the contender as it is common but below the radar enough to maybe make people believe the worth we give it in time... hahahaha :)
so how much is this going to cost to put this up on ebay for this long period of time?.... count me in if we get enough people.
This would be a great experiment <<thumbs up>>
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I'm game for it! Yo Bro is ready to go up on the block!
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Sorry to be a partypooper, but I'd put money up for that NOT working. This is akin to the whole email forward with the "don't buy gas on day x, or don't buy gas from exxon, etc to bring the gas price down". To control the market, you have to control the entire market (or damn near all of it).
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The petro market is a bit bigger than the TG-16 market...
This will work, easy. We need to have quite a few copies up at once, hopefully at least 10, but idealy 50 or so. We also need a bullshit story as to why it's valuable, a story that will be paraphrased in every auction.
The they just sit there with stupid BINs for as long as possible, probably a year or so. Hopefully nobody will actually buy one.
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What's keeping all those people from having to liquidate the games out of credit card debt anyway? In these times surely money will dry up somehow.
I'm pretty sure they are doing just that, over and over again. The shit just moves from one guy to the next.
This brings up an interesting idea. Wouldn't it be fun to purposefully f*ck up a game's eBay value. It would be easy to drive the price up, but driving it down would take some cleverness, and some money, of course.
Possible method: Everyone here puts their personal copies of some game like Deep Blue on eBay with $250 BINs and just leave them there forever. If we could get 100 of them on there...that would be f*cking hilarious, and certainly drive up the price. Then we could all dump them at $1 a year later, one after another in a short span of time, and kill the fake price.
Candidate game: it has to be something less common than TV Sports of Keith Courage, but still common, and something not commonly thought to be valuable. Deep Blue maybe, or Yo Bro.
I thought about doing something like this while typing my last post. But the thought of it backfiring was too scary. I thought up of something I can do alone to put a dent in some of the gouging. I will cost me some money, but I think I'm going to do it. In order for it to be effective, I can't say what it is until after it is successful.
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I think it would be far more effective if we actually place cheap BINs of the actual games that are getting gouged like Magical Chase, Bonk 3, DEII, etc. Like the above idea we would need a bunch of each. Just sayin'...
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What's keeping all those people from having to liquidate the games out of credit card debt anyway? In these times surely money will dry up somehow.
I'm pretty sure they are doing just that, over and over again. The shit just moves from one guy to the next.
This brings up an interesting idea. Wouldn't it be fun to purposefully f*ck up a game's eBay value. It would be easy to drive the price up, but driving it down would take some cleverness, and some money, of course.
Possible method: Everyone here puts their personal copies of some game like Deep Blue on eBay with $250 BINs and just leave them there forever. If we could get 100 of them on there...that would be f*cking hilarious, and certainly drive up the price. Then we could all dump them at $1 a year later, one after another in a short span of time, and kill the fake price.
Candidate game: it has to be something less common than TV Sports of Keith Courage, but still common, and something not commonly thought to be valuable. Deep Blue maybe, or Yo Bro.
I thought about doing something like this while typing my last post. But the thought of it backfiring was too scary. I thought up of something I can do alone to put a dent in some of the gouging. I will cost me some money, but I think I'm going to do it. In order for it to be effective, I can't say what it is until after it is successful.
I don't want to ruin your plan, but here is what I considered a long time ago (when I used eBay):
(1) Most folks use eBay to sell crap. Yet...
(2) eBay, as a historical record, becomes a source of: information, misinformation and disinformation.
(3) We, as dissidents, can try to use eBay as the battle ground for an information war. Our weapons, truth and reason, aimed at all the price gouging, misinformation and disinformation.
(4) We would have to be very active and creative in this information war. I don't pretend to have any answers, and I don't know what we would do if eBay blocked/closed our accounts.
(5) Random ideas I've had (all violate eBay's TOS, I'm sure, and are thwarted with other flaws as well. Read for entertainment value!):
(a) CO-OPT eBay for educational purposes. We create bogus auctions, simply to provide information on price gouging. We basically CLONE the offending auction, but we offer INFORMATION and ADVICE in our listing. We are providing targeted PSA's (public service announcements) to all the buyers interested in a particular title. METHOD: VERY LOW starting bid, to attract attention/but $800,000+ reserve price so we can cancel listing without complications.
(b) Create a "SNOPES.COM" of ebay price gouging. That is, (1) we create and host an accessible, easy-to-digest primer on price gouging. VERY GENERAL GUIDE. Then, perhaps as a wiki, we have (2) TITLE-SPECIFIC entries with detailed information to counter the ridiculous claims sellers spew out. Most of this valuable information exists already, petrifying in specialized forums, but it needs to be consolidated.
(c) GUERILLA WARFARE. This one is least feasible, could be considered malicious, but is most awesome. We go (systematically, as a large group of bidders) to all price gouging auctions and bid them up to ridiculous ($100,000+) amounts, and not pay. I suppose this is really just a daydream. MINOR PROBLEM: There is no way to create an endless supply of new eBay accounts to replace all our accounts that would be banned.
(d) GIVE UP & BUY FROM FORUM "FRIENDS". This is my current M.O.
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I think it would be far more effective if we actually place cheap BINs of the actual games that are getting gouged like Magical Chase, Bonk 3, DEII, etc. Like the above idea we would need a bunch of each. Just sayin'...
Around the time that crooked sellers first began to manipulate the market, they started by buying every BIN listing for games like those. They snag most before everyone else, because they're always watching while the rest of us are at our day jobs. Even if they don't make a huge profit on the games they buy from others like that, it's worth it to them in the long run to protect prices from falling, while at the same time steadily moving prices upward.
The only way to make what you are suggesting work, would be to manipulate the market in reverse, by fake selling games to one another. I don't know if private auctions are visible in search results, but as long as you've got someone lined up to buy your auction shortly after listing it, you might be able to pull it off. It would require a large group of people, so that it isn't obviously the same user IDs buying and selling everything. All you'd need to pull it off is enough people with eBay accounts that have decent ratings. Various members could take original photos for each listing from the games that they actually own. That way 30 different people could "sell" Magical Chase even if only one of them owns it.
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I don't want to ruin your plan, but here is what I considered a long time ago (when I used eBay):
(a) CO-OPT eBay for educational purposes. We create bogus auctions, simply to provide information on price gouging. We basically CLONE the offending auction, but we offer INFORMATION and ADVICE in our listing. We are providing targeted PSA's (public service announcements) to all the buyers interested in a particular title. METHOD: VERY LOW starting bid, to attract attention/but $800,000+ reserve price so we can cancel listing without complications.
I can't remember which site it was but someone did something similar last year when NES Stadium Events was all the rage.
At that time tons of people were listing the PAL version as OMG RAER!!1! and trying to pass if off as the ultra-rare US version. The auction basically outlined how to spot the differences between the two versions, including the NES quality seal (oval on the US version I think, and round on the PAL version).
Anyway, their method was to put it as a BIN for $1, quantity 100, and the auction basically said "If this listing helped you out, please send us a buck".
Pretty clever actually.
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My hucard only yo bro is ready to hit eBay with a cheap $200 bin! This will b fun to watch if nothing else
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I don't want to ruin your plan, but here is what I considered a long time ago (when I used eBay):
(a) CO-OPT eBay for educational purposes. We create bogus auctions, simply to provide information on price gouging. We basically CLONE the offending auction, but we offer INFORMATION and ADVICE in our listing. We are providing targeted PSA's (public service announcements) to all the buyers interested in a particular title. METHOD: VERY LOW starting bid, to attract attention/but $800,000+ reserve price so we can cancel listing without complications.
I can't remember which site it was but someone did something similar last year when NES Stadium Events was all the rage.
At that time tons of people were listing the PAL version as OMG RAER!!1! and trying to pass if off as the ultra-rare US version. The auction basically outlined how to spot the differences between the two versions, including the NES quality seal (oval on the US version I think, and round on the PAL version).
Anyway, their method was to put it as a BIN for $1, quantity 100, and the auction basically said "If this listing helped you out, please send us a buck".
Pretty clever actually.
Very kool. I'm glad to hear that this tactic worked--it gives us hope! :)
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(c) GUERILLA WARFARE. This one is least feasible, could be considered malicious, but is most awesome. We go (systematically, as a large group of bidders) to all price gouging auctions and bid them up to ridiculous ($100,000+) amounts, and not pay. I suppose this is really just a daydream. MINOR PROBLEM: There is no way to create an endless supply of new eBay accounts to replace all our accounts that would be banned.
(d) GIVE UP & BUY FROM FORUM "FRIENDS". This is my current M.O.
You're making a lot of sense. One guy stopped the sale of over 1,000 acres of Utah's National Parks to private interests by doing this. He is risking repercussions, though.
I haven't had an eBay transaction in months. thanks PCEFX.
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Can you guarantee that if I put a complete "ultra uber rare" copy of Yo Bro, at $200, BIN $250 on the internet auction site, will not get my name into the "gouging much" thread???
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no!
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craigslist took down the ad.. how much was it at?
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I read on the 1st page he was asking 10k. But I. Can't besure, Just repeating what was said.
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Why in the world is this game so expensive? I can understand why Sapphire is, but Magical Chase? Is it because its one of those mail order only games here in the U.S?
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I've heard people say it was mail order only, but in 93 I sure as shit saw it at Babages. I passed on it cause it was still $50 and instead bought Dead Moon, Neutopia 2, and Valis III all for $40. If I only knew then...I'd still probably buy those 3 games instead.
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MC being mail order only? Never heard anyone claim that one before LOL
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$10,000 where do I send my personal check or money order?
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/\/\/\ Hell if your looking for Magical Chase ill sell you my copy for $10Gs lol.
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/\/\/\ Hell if your looking for Magical Chase ill sell you my copy for $10Gs lol.
Alexsduo, your prayers have finally been answered!
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No comment.... :)
reminds me of :
At a dinner party one night, a drunk Churchill asked an attractive woman whether she would sleep with him for five million pounds. “Oh my, Mr. Churchill … I suppose, but we would have to discuss the terms,” she responded.
“Would you sleep with me for five pounds?” Churchill then asked.
“Of course not!? What kind of woman do you think I am?” the woman responded indignantly.
“Madam, we’ve already established what kind of woman you are,” said Churchill, “now we’re just negotiating the price.”
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That's a good one :)
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What about this one. It's been up for a couple months and still no one has bought it.
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/vgm/2757027550.html
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What about this one. It's been up for a couple months and still no one has bought it.
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/vgm/2757027550.html
The first issue of Nintendo Power is cool, But the 2nd issue is F-ING AWESOME. Simon Belmont, holding Dracula's severed head is EPICNESS only makes it all the better that it was done on the family friendly NES.
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Hey I don't live to far from there, maybe I can snag that.
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Hey I don't live to far from there, maybe I can snag that.
Where? The Cherryville sale or the MC sale?
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Cherryville.
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Cherryville.
Does that mean that we're going to see it on ebay, going at a steep price?
I certainly hope not because if I thought that that could happen, I wouldn't have posted that link here.