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NEC PC-Engine/SuperGrafx => PC Engine/SuperGrafx Discussion => Topic started by: soop on June 18, 2012, 09:27:49 PM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEC-PC-Engine-Super-CD-Rom-Game-Castlevania-Dracula-X-Blood-Reincarnation-RARE-/120934383953?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c28404151
or a new bootleg?
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Standard press review copy. Should be identical to the normal game.
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Yeah I was wondering about the same item earlier.
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Very cool item!
I have something like this with a not-for-resale copy of Red Dead Redemption for 360.
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:lol: What a waste of money. More power to the collectors.
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well that is news to me. A release of Castlevania, that was in the hands of magazine writers and programers of the time.
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That's pretty cool.
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It might be that the huge golem in stage 1 act 2 in this version looks very different to the final version.
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Are we sure this isn't a bootleg? Because the same guy now has at least 2 more.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEC-PC-Engine-Super-CD-Rom-Game-Castlevania-Dracula-X-Blood-Reincarnation-RARE-/120942546022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c28bccc66
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Item location: default, default, Hong Kong
:-k Doesn't have to mean anything but...
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How can you tell if it is a bootleg? But you may be correct. :-k
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It is a bit suspicious...
Never heard of a hibaihin version for Drac X -> guy has multiples -> they look really new -> From HK -> nothing coming up under a quick yahoo jp seach under "悪魔城 非売品"...
I'd put money up that it's a bootleg.
Mind you, if it's a good deal enough for a clean copy, I'd pay for it, but $175+?!? Pfftt.... suckers.
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Googling the Japanese terms is not turning up anything. My money's on it being a bootleg as well.
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So Drac X finally got a bootleg? Now that it's not worth bootlegging, making it an unheard of promo is a clever way to steal money from noob/133t collectors. :P
They'd be more successful with a "not for resale" or "25th Anniversary" edition of Sapphire. :wink:
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Well, it does state that it is in 90% new condition. That right there sells it for me.
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Call me crazy, but I like the good old days when I could IMMEDIATELY identify a pirated item. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcg0.png)
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If it is a bootleg, atleast they were nice enough or dumb enough to make it not identical to the real thing right? I suppose we'll find out if they are bootlegs because they will probably magically find a few more to sell.
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:lol: What a waste of money. More power to the collectors.
I'll go ahead and quote myself again from earlier.
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i just found the listing, and its not a bad price
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What do you mean? It's an auction. And it's ebay. No one bids until the last half second of the auction.
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You see the problem with this, is the last person did not want to pay, basically.
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What do you mean? It's an auction. And it's ebay. No one bids until the last half second of the auction.
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You see the problem with this, is the last person did not want to pay, basically.
WTF
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Oh look, he's pulled another copy out of his ass. I call shenanigans.
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It's gotta be a booty. Not just because he has multiple copies and they look too new, but also because it has full packaging like a retail release.
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Well someone keep a count. If someone is making bootlegs of it, we are bound to eventually see alot of them.
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Well I brought the last, one. When it comes I will tell you. What makes me skeptical, is the disc tray. You can see the "Compact Disc" logo type, is not upside down as with a regular PCE cd, it is the other way around.
Another thing is the preview images, in comparison to my Castlevania game, they look a tad bit wider, but that might be due to the image display?
Also while the extra type, fits in just fine, are their any other PCE games out their, that have such wordings? Eitherway it is another Castlevania to collect.
Also at the edge, the insert, looks like a snug fit. The markings match my Castlevania, but it still looks differnt.
I know what you are thinking, It would be pretty easy for a Chinese person to get the tools, and get them cheap ( because chinese will bargain down, and they are proud of it ), but I brought two other games from the same seller, and they seem pretty normal.
These might actually be what the seller, says. Demo discs, that was sent out to stores to promote the gameplay, because Konomi is famous, for this in terms of Kojima, pilot discs.
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could be
i know when i got street fighter2 CE i grabbed it quick, cause it was cheap.
the seller immediately relisted it.
startled by the relist i checked his closed listings and feedback, and it all looked good (except for several more SF2 CE)
the game arrived mint except for no jewel case (all inserts, book, spine card included)
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I can see differences, but then he has the catch-all of it being a "not for resale promo disc". I can think of a couple of other ways to prove it though... we have some printers on here, right? Every printer has an almost invisible watermark detailing things like the make, model and serial number of the printer. All we need to do is find out what equipment printed that manual, and how old it is.
*edit* oh, apparantly it has the time and date too. Regal, fancy a spot of code breaking? You'll need a blue light and a magnifying glass: http://lwn.net/Articles/156319/
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He has another one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEC-PC-Engine-Super-CD-Rom-Game-Castlevania-Dracula-X-Blood-Reincarnation-RARE-/120955342108?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c29800d1c
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^ Same one, that's number 4.
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Lol, why the sudden mass appearance of these?
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I can see differences, but then he has the catch-all of it being a "not for resale promo disc". I can think of a couple of other ways to prove it though... we have some printers on here, right? Every printer has an almost invisible watermark detailing things like the make, model and serial number of the printer. All we need to do is find out what equipment printed that manual, and how old it is.
*edit* oh, apparantly it has the time and date too. Regal, fancy a spot of code breaking? You'll need a blue light and a magnifying glass: http://lwn.net/Articles/156319/
I applied blue light to the coverart and snapped a picture of the result:
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/dracula_X.jpg)
What kind of code is used? I scoured the EFF site, but they don't have anything that will help us decipher this. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png)
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Lol, why the sudden mass appearance of these?
1. Emu whatever is an advid seller/collector, and has a bunch of game items in stock, that they want to get rid of.
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Lol, why the sudden mass appearance of these?
1. Emu whatever is an advid seller/collector, and has a bunch of game items in stock, that they want to get rid of.
sure that "promo" must have been released just a couple days ago then.
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Let's just wait and see if it's fake
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I can see differences, but then he has the catch-all of it being a "not for resale promo disc". I can think of a couple of other ways to prove it though... we have some printers on here, right? Every printer has an almost invisible watermark detailing things like the make, model and serial number of the printer. All we need to do is find out what equipment printed that manual, and how old it is.
*edit* oh, apparantly it has the time and date too. Regal, fancy a spot of code breaking? You'll need a blue light and a magnifying glass: http://lwn.net/Articles/156319/
I applied blue light to the coverart and snapped a picture of the result:
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/dracula_X.jpg)
What kind of code is used? I scoured the EFF site, but they don't have anything that will help us decipher this. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png)
The top makes sense, but the bottom part could be anything. :P
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I think the bottom says "Your Mom" O:)
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I think it's code for Wonder Momo.
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Obey Pac-Man possibly?
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Lol, why the sudden mass appearance of these?
He probably had to press...oh... 500 or so of them, as the CD duplicators generally won't do smaller quantities.
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I can see differences, but then he has the catch-all of it being a "not for resale promo disc". I can think of a couple of other ways to prove it though... we have some printers on here, right? Every printer has an almost invisible watermark detailing things like the make, model and serial number of the printer. All we need to do is find out what equipment printed that manual, and how old it is.
*edit* oh, apparantly it has the time and date too. Regal, fancy a spot of code breaking? You'll need a blue light and a magnifying glass: http://lwn.net/Articles/156319/
I applied blue light to the coverart and snapped a picture of the result:
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/dracula_X.jpg)
What kind of code is used? I scoured the EFF site, but they don't have anything that will help us decipher this. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png)
The top makes sense, but the bottom part could be anything. :P
The bottom seems to be some kind of numeric notation, representing a series of numbers or something? It sure is Mysterious.
I dunno (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png)
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Okay, you know what, this disc is bootleg, and the booklet is bootlegged, and I do not need any printing method to see that it is bootlegged.
1. Something that occured to me, in the image of the current item, the Disc logo is turned upside down. You can see it on the listing right now.
2. I just decide to play the game, some of the images are garbled, and garbled images comes from incorrect writing method, like from a CDR, usually. Most of the times, I do not see that, and the only time I saw that was from a disc in a magazine.
4. There is some blueish print on the back cover, you can see an indent of some sort, but it is part of the printing itself, not a mistake.
5. I put the cd in my computer, to find out the manifacturing information.
The manifacturer is called Princo. 1999 PRINCO Japan Service Center is formed to launch the company's Japanese marketing campaign. 1991 CD Mastering begins to supply stampers for CD production. Construction for a new factory begins. Why would Konomi, use a non-Japanese printer during the 1993, before release??.
I put my Linda 3 ( which I got from the same seller, and Castlevania X into the drive, and of course, the CD manifacturer is undentifible, because Konami, or whoever probably ordered a bunch of discs that in no way uses this identification technology.
6. The CD case is brand new, and does not match any PCE case. The case is even whiter then my Castlevania X game. I am just thinking, maybe the CD-case was replaced.
7.The plastic inner area, has no numbers, but on the clear plastic,
where I handle, I see the words JP94161084831442. ( something like that
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8. The inside of the instructional booklet does not even have the extra print on the outside????
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I can't look at the print, because it is to
o dark, but the book print is most likely photoshopped print because the fine words on the booklet is blurry then my original. The computer image does no justice all.
I honestly think the seller, just has those in stocks and it is not their fault at all. I will put images up later.
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Pictures will be up, sorry pictures are blurry, used cell phone camera. but you can see details, of what I am talking about.
The only difference, one enemy, had a death animation that was slightly differnt????, and that is the only difference I see. I have to go back and play.
I am going to send the game back tommorow, unless somebody here. wants it for $140 free ship.
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So you bought one of these boots???
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Those Mysterious dots, hmmmmmm:
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wow regal, so what you're saying those are booties but not made recently?
can you make a pic of the different death?
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Isn't that the notes for "Mary had a little lamb"??
(c=1, d=2, etc...)
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I thought there were boots of drac x way before these ones surfaced? But it didn't get the same attention as sapphire. Anyway I can only assume they make them not for resale discs to up the value/selling price, its not like dracula x was all that expensive, at least compared to some other turbo / pce games out there
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(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/dracula_X.jpg)
Isn't that the notes for "Mary had a little lamb"??
(c=1, d=2, etc...)
Yes, you've solved it!
E, D, C, D, E, E, E, D, D, D...
3, 2, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 2, 2, 2... B, A, G, A, B, B, B, A, A, A...Mary Had a Little Lamb!
You have deciphered the Mysterious Song
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
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A friend of mine got a copy and showed it to me : it's a grossely made bootleg. He got refunded as soon as he filed a complaint.
Some of the guies who paid 120$ for this piece of shit and still left a positive feedback are plain stupid.
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120955342108&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120942546022
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loLOL
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So is this a cd-r or a pressed disc or what?
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A friend of mine got a copy and showed it to me : it's a grossely made bootleg. He got refunded as soon as he filed a complaint.
Some of the guies who paid 120$ for this piece of shit and still left a positive feedback are plain stupid.
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120955342108&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120942546022
One paid $175 and left a positive... geez...
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His personal fault.
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So is this a cd-r or a pressed disc or what?
It looks like a good quality CD-R but it's still a CD-R.
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Can people get caught buy this??
a$$holes on ebay
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Okay, so I did some checking on this disc, before. The game itself is
printed on discs, whose office was never in Japan. The company, and
displays a size, unlike a regular PCE disc, that has an unidentifiable size,
and appears the same exact way.
The printing is too bright, and while you can see the words, they are somewhat blurred. The original book print, is sharp as sharp and you can see the points/picas clear as rain. I had taken some images, but I think the MIB took my Camera as well. The dead give away, is the CD case, in the photos. The imprint is reversed. This is probably worst then sapphire.
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A brand new user who just registered, asked me a question. What is the difference in gameplay? So far it is the same exact gameplay, but something is off. I thought it was the background was missing or something, or the golem, but no. Their was no difference. All I can say
it is a pretty meh dup ( Yeah I use that PSO term ), and if you want another knock off for your collection then buy it. Otherwise I would claim the item, is a counterfeit ( I have to check what I wrote, when I was making the recording/review of the item ).
The seller is not a bad seller, at all. They do sell real legitimate items,
and have sold more expensive things ( like the printer ) in the past.
So it is not their fault at all.
I know my writing is not too, clear but my brain is all over the place right now.