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NEC PC-Engine/SuperGrafx => PC Engine/SuperGrafx Discussion => Topic started by: shubibiman on November 03, 2012, 12:31:24 AM
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This is a new topic in which the members willing to be part of a fundraiser to gather enough bucks to get the Dino Force prototype can tell what amount they can put in.
The idea is as follow :
We try and find as many volunters as needed to gather the 500 000 yens akiba games asks for it. Ccovell or any other trustworthy member of this board who lives in Japan would be in charge of checking that the thing is legit. Then, we would make a public release (CD or Hucard format, whatever).
To those who spend their time complaining (Prof), you've got the other thread to do so.
This is in the interest of PC Engine's worldwide community.
Here is the list of members here or at Necstasy (French PCE board) and how much they can pay :
-Shubibiman : 100/150€
-Cosmos : 100€
-Slugman : 100€
-lkermel : 100$
-Sateric : 100€
-Laucops : 100€
-Thanator : 100€
-Peperocket : 100€
-Syd : 100€
-Samlepirate : 100€
-Punkic Cyborg : 50$
-Blue BMW : 50$
-Bernie : 50$
-Sign of Zeta : 50$
-Maxwar : 50$
-Sirg : 200€
-Theclash603 : 50$
-ParanoiaDragon : 100$
-Sadler : 100$
-Bardoly : 50$
-Vestcoat : 50$
-Shion : 100€
-Maaku : 100€
-Redfield : 100€
-Rayxamber : 100€
-Necromancer : 50$
1450€ and 700$ so far as of sunday november 4.
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Half a million yen? That's it? It's all ready gone by the time I've written this. It has to be.
If not, put me down or $50.
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50$ ( I know i dont have much in the way of post count here but i am reliable )
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Throw me in for $50 too.
Then lets convince the guys on here to throw the game on one of they homebrew hu cards to make it even better.
Then lets find out the names of the people who wouldn't allow a video of the game to be made, to assure they never touch one of these cards because they are worthless.
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$100. I don't hold high hopes for us nabbing it, but I gotta try my best all the same.
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Actually, when the seller was talking about a french guy offering 5000$, he was refering to an old thread by Thibaut that was posted on PCEFX too where he was looking for Dino Force. So there's actually noone offering 5000$. Thibaut will be part of the group buy but he's no longer willing to throw such amounts of cash on PCE stuff.
I've asked a friend of mine currently in Japan if he could check the whole thing is legit. I'm pretty sure the "someone asked us not to show more footage" is just BS.
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shubi would you consider posting this at NeoGeo as well? a lot of members there might be interested in this as well
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I'm not registered there ;(
I've posted it on the french Neogeo forum though.
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I ain't paying shit for this crap.
I vote everyone take their fundraiser offering and take it to the Sinistron relief fund thread. Pretty sure we need to help him out more than we need a probably-shitty game.
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What's up with Sinistron?
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I vote everyone take their fundraiser offering and take it to the Sinistron relief fund thread. Pretty sure we need to help him out more than we need a probably-shitty game.
Do both.
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What's up with Sinistron?
His home was in Howard Beach, NY. He literally had a dock in his back yard, as he lived right by the water. When the shit hit the fan, his place flooded basically to the ceiling. Him and his wife are trying to clean up now and salvage what little they can, and find a new home. When they had to evacuate originally, there was just no way to take all that stuff with them. No one was prepared for it to be as bad as it was.
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13447.msg267283#new
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I ain't paying shit for this crap.
I vote everyone take their fundraiser offering and take it to the Sinistron relief fund thread. Pretty sure we need to help him out more than we need a probably-shitty game.
Why not cancel all your purchases in life and donate everything you have to those less fortunate than yourself?
People choosing to do spend their money on one thing doesn't take away from anything else. You might as well spam every buy/sell thread on the forum too since that takes away money from Sinistron just as much.
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I ain't paying shit for this crap.
I vote everyone take their fundraiser offering and take it to the Sinistron relief fund thread. Pretty sure we need to help him out more than we need a probably-shitty game.
Why not cancel all your purchases in life and donate everything you have to those less fortunate than yourself?
People choosing to do spend their money on one thing doesn't take away from anything else. You might as well spam every buy/sell thread on the forum too since that takes away money from Sinistron just as much.
I don't think he meant it to sound or come off quite like how you are putting it, and to be honest, what he said makes sense. As I said before, regardless of Sinis situation even, I'd be weary of putting any sort of cash down on obtaining this game until there was real proof it was legit, and it is a completed and fully playable game. So far that has not happened. Either way, everyone's money is their own to spend as they please. I just hope if enough people pull a good amount together to buy this, that it ends up being worth it.
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Consider this: This is an unreleased alpha build of a game made by the creators of Circus Lido. Circus Lido is craparoo, yet it was actually released. (barely). It looks totally great to me, but I'm not expecting quality soft because its from the Circus Lido guys and ITS A PROTO. What ratio of protos are actually good? Not very many at all.
The only way this game could fail expectations would be if it didn't exist, if it was undumpable, if it was actually written last month instead of 20 years ago, etc. As long as it runs and does something I can't ask for much more.
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I never actually played Circus Lido, but taking what you are saying into account, that reinforced my feelings on the situation. Somethings really are better off being forgotten and not released, esp if the end product was terrible, but at times curiosity for such stuff can be overwhelming. Sometimes people just have to find out for themselves.
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I'd be weary of putting any sort of cash down on obtaining this game until there was real proof it was legit, and it is a completed and fully playable game.
What you seemingly didn't get is that until now, noone has spent the slightest cent on this proto : we're just checking who would be OK for a community buy. No money will be spent until a reliable forum membre living in Japan has checked the proto. If it turns out to be a fake or a non complete proto, then I personnaly would reconsider spending money on this, as many other members here would.
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Oh yeah, I know so far this is just a asking for pledges. I just feel at this point I wouldn't even do that until I knew more about said game. Why cant someone be located to check it out now, or has anyone there, Tats, etc, tried to touch base and see if the seller would be willing to allow people to come and test it out?
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Im not familiar with Akiba games but ive seen the name before. Are they generally trustworthy? They say this is a completed game that plays from beginning to finish. They wont say how many levels there are though.
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Im not familiar with Akiba games but ive seen the name before. Are they generally trustworthy? They say this is a completed game that plays from beginning to finish. They wont say how many levels there are though.
Yeah I have seen them mentioned before too, but for the life of me I cant remember where or when. And yeah, I wonder about that, because as fast as this was all thrown together, unless the game is a total push over that can be beaten after a try or two, then I cant imagine a 100 percent play through.
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Well, its possible there is a level select since its a pre-release...or it isn't a pre-release. Not sure what stage of development its at now, honestly.
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I vote everyone take their fundraiser offering and take it to the Sinistron relief fund thread.
This (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1818;sa=showPosts;start=0) Sinistron??
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I vote everyone take their fundraiser offering and take it to the Sinistron relief fund thread.
This (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1818;sa=showPosts;start=0) Sinistron??
Yep. His posting/forum activity kinda died down some for awhile there because his music work/band had been keeping him extremely busy, and also, he wasn't able to do any gaming until I had sent him that spare controller just late last month. I think quite a few people from here have him added on FB though so they could stay in touch and all outside of the forum.
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<Start personal rant>
To be honest, I would never contribute to this fundraiser to release a game. If anything, I'd consider donating to a charity or someone else in need. Given that there are so many people who have 'real' life problems right now, I find it kind of distasteful to come to the community just to find 'fat pidgins' who can line their own pockets. Ie. That Japanese guy who originally had the game and registered on all of these forums bragging about the game and trying to promote it for sale.
It's the same thing that happened at the Assembler forums. Since the community there is well known for rescuing long-lost games, people (who have no interest in any long term contribution to the community), just join up and tease people with pictures in hopes of a fundraiser just to milk the 'cash' cow as much as they think they can get away with.
If you own a game, good for you. Enjoy it. If you want to release it, go ahead. But don't go bragging and talking about it, expecting people to start throwing money balls at you. To be honest, I'm kind of sick of all of these 'self-interest' fundraisers. "I have a rare game, what can I do? Not many people will pay a lot by themselves. I know, I'll try to organize a fundraiser so I can get paid for it!".
</End personal rant>
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Oh lord! The money is not for me to get the protoype for myself, I don't care about prototypes, I just care for the game. I'm the one who's trying to gather the money but if a guy like Ccovell or any other member of this board keeps it, I don't care : the goal of this fundraising is to make the game available for everyone.
I think the many things I did for the PCE community proved far more than your 48th message on this board is trying to suggest.
Now if you want to debate, you've got another thread about this Dino Force prototype. Thanks.
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Yeah, the point of this thread is to get the game dumped so everyone can see it (probably more for historical reasons, the game is probably not fun). Nobody here will be getting rich. Everyone would lose money.
I think it's much more sad that it takes a motherf*cking hurricane to make you aware than there are people suffering in the world.
"Right now", f*cking hell. People are starving to death by the tens of thousands EVERY DAY. If you're going to sell all your stuff and live like Ghandi for the rest of your live so you can help people then that's fine completely wonderful and I support it fully...but since you are writing on a video game forum right now I'm pretty sure you buy dumb shit quite often, just like the rest of us. If you're going to be sitting outside of Best Buy on Black Friday for a $100 laptop then please go f*ck yourself. There is no difference between someone buying a $5000 game or a $5000 car or a $5000 gold plated dildo. Why single out this purchase instead of all the other shit people are spending money on every second of every day?
There are worse things that can be done with $50. It's not like we're spending the money on cigarettes or Assasin's Creed III, or Jersey Shore DVDs, and it's not like you have the slightest idea how much money we donate to other causes either.
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I am ok for 100 €!
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Oh lord! The money is not for me to get the protoype for myself, I don't care about prototypes, I just care for the game. I'm the one who's trying to gather the money but if a guy like Ccovell or any other member of this board keeps it, I don't care : the goal of this fundraising is to make the game available for everyone.
I think the many things I did for the PCE community proved far more than your 48th message on this board is trying to suggest.
Now if you want to debate, you've got another thread about this Dino Force prototype. Thanks.
You probably misunderstood what I mean. I ment, I wouldn't pay any amount of money to make some Japanese guy or some Japanese store who's just reselling this game for profit more rich. It has nothing to do with yourself, or people on this forum directly. I'm not trying to shoot the messenger, just state what I feel regarding the idea of rushing to pay 3rd parties who try to resell gouge for big money. That's also why I prefaced my text with <tags> to clearly indicate it's nothing personal. Just an opinion.
I ain't paying shit for this crap.
I vote everyone take their fundraiser offering and take it to the Sinistron relief fund thread. Pretty sure we need to help him out more than we need a probably-shitty game.
Agreed!
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Wow did anyone read the OPs first post? Lets keep it on topic the thread is just for people to post how much they will donate to get this proto in the hands of a trusted person like ccovel to get it dumped. If you are not interested in this please dont post or if you just want to complain about it do so in the other thread about dino force.
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I'm down for $50 - it's only money.
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$50, possibly more if I can swing it. I can afford to lose $50 on a gamble.
Also, I agree with everything that Zeta said.
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Yeah, the point of this thread is to get the game dumped so everyone can see it (probably more for historical reasons, the game is probably not fun). Nobody here will be getting rich. Everyone would lose money.
I think it's much more sad that it takes a motherf*cking hurricane to make you aware than there are people suffering in the world.
"Right now", f*cking hell. People are starving to death by the tens of thousands EVERY DAY. If you're going to sell all your stuff and live like Ghandi for the rest of your live so you can help people then that's fine completely wonderful and I support it fully...but since you are writing on a video game forum right now I'm pretty sure you buy dumb shit quite often, just like the rest of us. If you're going to be sitting outside of Best Buy on Black Friday for a $100 laptop then please go f*ck yourself. There is no difference between someone buying a $5000 game or a $5000 car or a $5000 gold plated dildo. Why single out this purchase instead of all the other shit people are spending money on every second of every day?
There are worse things that can be done with $50. It's not like we're spending the money on cigarettes or Assasin's Creed III, or Jersey Shore DVDs, and it's not like you have the slightest idea how much money we donate to other causes either.
Hahaha, this is the best post in the entire Dino Force debacle! And I agree entirely!
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^ Seconded.
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To those who spend their time complaining (Prof), you've got the other thread to do so.
Just now noticed that on the first post of the thread.
When you actually find someone to go check this out in person, and it ends up panning out as something worth investing in, like I said in the other thread, etc, I would be willing to chip in. Until then, I wont blindly pledge money of any amount to something when I have ZERO idea what I am getting in return, especially when currently I have better, more important things to put money towards. That should in no way reflect on anyone else's spending habit, that is simply my own.
I am a single parent, and due to that I have learned over the years to be a bit more conservative with my money, and I don't mind being verbal and expressing that, mainly as a form of explaining why I have no made a pledge yet. It does not mean I am opposed to entirely. Either way, I don't care what anyone else here does with their money, regardless of my opinion of the situation, their money habits dont affect my life. I have in no way complained about others doing their own pledges, calling them out by name, trying to convince them of doing something else, so calling me out by name like that on a opening post is in poor taste, and a bad way to get my support on such a thing as this.
If it ends up sucking or being not very playable, and people want to toss money in anyway, sucks for them and all, its their loss, but not mine, so meh whatever. I will feel bad for you, but only about 2 percent bad. You knew what you were doing and all. Given the current stance of the seller, I do have a feeling no one is going to be allowed to just stop by and check it out in full prior to handing money over, so people making a pledge may want to bear that in mind. That is why I am watching and waiting. Zeta seems to have taken the proper stance on it, going in with extremely low expectations, and that may be best if the seller is indeed not willing to let the game be previewed in full prior to completing a transaction.
And to that I add, for the fuss about the hurricane thing, I don't want people to feel like the Sini thread is supposed to take away money from this. I'm not going to name names, but I can see some of you feel threatened by that, due to whatever motivation, and that is simply sad, because its not a contest about which one can get more money. I don't support derailing this fundraiser in favor of another, and I don't think Sini, nor anyone else in his situation, would want anyone's help if they were guilted into it or made to pick one or the other in such a manner.
I understand where you are coming from Arkhan, the point you tried to make, but no need man, no worries. Those who care to help him will. Those who don't, who cares? They probably either don't know him, or do and don't like him (personal grudges can be a solid motivator understandably), and its admittingly hard for someone in that situation to want to send money or offer help to someone else. If this happened to someone I did not care for personally for instance, I would be hard pressed to want to help him initially, though in the end I probably would, but that is just me personally. Not everyone is like that.
This is not the time, or place even, to sit here and debate peoples intentions, nor to imply people are simply wearing scauses (lol SP), or to imply others have not helped enough, or at all even, in some charitable like manner, simply because they pointed out a situation that happened very recently. I don't even see how anyone doing that could suddenly be perceived as being a person who never gave a damn prior, or taken notice of said suffering of others during their entire life for that matter. Its f*cking petty and low to imply that Zeta, and lame people would basically "Ditto" you on that too, because as you accuse others of not knowing, the same applies to you yourself, along with most everyone else here. And to be honest, I would question the motives of anyone who went around bragging constantly about all the charities they donate to, and causes they support.
As stated prior, its not a contest here. We are not a bunch of rich old socialites siting around the 30 foot dinner table sipping wine and bolstering our inflated egos while we brag about who does more with their endless amounts of money for some unknown clinic on some unknown island, or for the endangered species of some unknown animal in soem unknown rainforest. We are supposed to be better then that. I would hope that we are at least.
People can even support both threads if they want. Up to them. A lot of people have pm'ed me with offers to help Sini. Its been amazing, and humbling, and I know Sini and his wife appreciates it, as do I, seriously. I respectfully ask that any further discussion in the Sandy mess, Sini, other victims, etc, in favor of helping, or against, be taken elsewhere. End of rant.
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If the developers of Dino Force had but an inkling of the human drama that would surround their work, I trust they would have warm fuzzy feelings penetrating their aortic valves.
Bravo, forgotten developers. Bravo. You have stirred the cold, icy hearts at pcenginefx.com. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
http://junk.tg-16.com/audio/Double_Dragon_II/Track06.mp3
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When the game is bought, I will hack the rom and rename it Dino Farce