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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => Virtual Console TG/PCE Discussion => Topic started by: handygrafx on March 23, 2006, 06:37:54 AM
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http://revolution.ign.com/articles/697/697882p1.html
Iwata also announced partnerships with Sega and Hudson to offer downloadable access to their classic games via Revolution's Virtual Console. Revolution owners will be able to relive their past gaming glories from the Sega Genesis console by playing a "best of" selection from more than 1,000 Genesis titles, as well as games sold for the TurboGrafx console (a system jointly developed by NEC and Hudson). These games join Revolution's access to 20 years of fan-favorite Nintendo games from the NES(R), Super NES(R) and Nintendo(R) 64 eras.
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/697/697922p1.html
GDC 06: Revolution Goes Retro
TG-16 and Genesis games due out for Nintendo's new console.
by Nix
March 23, 2006 - In a press release simultaneously with an announcement made during Nintendo's keynote speech at GDC 2006 this morning, Nintendo announced that Sega and Hudson have signed on as partners for the Revolution's Virtual Console service. With this, the emulators will be best games from the two companies for the TurboGraphix-16 (or PC-Engine, as it was called in Japan) and Sega Genesis will be downloadable and playable for the Revolution.
Curiously, only Sega Genesis games were mentioned as planned for the Virtual Console system in the deal with Sega (um, hello? Master System? Saturn? Game Gear? 32X?!?), but the partnership promises that many of the best out of the Genesis' 1,000+ gaming library will be available for the Revolution. Individual deals will have to be worked out with publishers for titles to be released on the Revolution, but with a growing interest in classic gaming, publishers and license owners will hopefully be fast to get on-board with Genesis support. And considering that most of the TurboGraphix-16's games released were published and/or developed by Hudson and NEC, it seems that the vast majority of games for the system will automatically fall into that partnership without much more licensing work from the company.
With NES, SNES, N64, and now Genesis and TG-16 on-board, the Revolution has got years of gaming already ready to play as soon as it launches later this year. Look for more news on supported systems and licensed games for the Nintendo Virtual Console as things develop.
(http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/697/697882/gdc-06-satoru-iwata-keynote-20060323010657243-000.jpg)
wow! 8)
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Damn! I was JUST going to post this.
Oh well...
Games specifically developed for the Sega Genesis and for the TurboGrafx console will also be playable on Nintendo Revolution. Not all of them -- but the best of them will be.
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hey do you guys think they will have SuperGrafx support too?
or will the obscure SuperGrafx get overlooked? Magic Engine emulates both PCE/TG16 and SuperGrafx very nicely. has done for years.
Aldynes on Revolution ? :shock:
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I wonder what they will do about the CD based games? Offer ISO's online?
But W00T for TurboGrafx support and all! :D
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I wonder if this could mean English versions of previously untranslated games...
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I wonder if this could mean English versions of previously untranslated games...
/drool I really need to learn japanese because there are so many damn RPG's that only came out of PCE that I want to play ( i even own some which is a watse because I cant understand them :P )
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I love this news. This means that an entirely new generation of gamers will get exposure to the TG-16. It also may mean that prices might start dropping on some games for us collectors. Maybe? One can hope...
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I love this news. This means that an entirely new generation of gamers will get exposure to the TG-16. It also may mean that prices might start dropping on some games for us collectors. Maybe? One can hope...
If anything I see prices going up, people have an opportunity to play them and the demand rises :/
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I don't know. Why pay a mint for them if they can download them for a few bucks on their Revolution? That's my opinion, at least.
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I read about this on the Shmups forums, it's amazing.
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Guys keep in mind that only Hudson games are slated at the present time. Nothing has been said about other beloved Turbo titles.
I hope its all of them.
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I'm not impressed.
When Nintendo says they'll have a "best of" selection from more than 1,000 Genesis titles... what exactly does that mean? The only number they cite is "1000", but they're already telling us that we're not getting a thousand games. Are we going to get twelve games, like on a Smash Pack? Will we get two Smash Pack's worth? Does "best" mean hard-to-find games like Warsong, or does "best" just mean "what the company thinks is most popular"?
Will multiplayer games have online support? How much will it cost to download a game? (Several current compilations already offer 15 to 20 games for 20 dollars.) Does this service promote small developers with new ideas for online retro gaming... or is this just a way for big companies to make more money without putting forth any effort?
Nintendo still hasn't told us anything substantial. They're not giving themselves an opportunity to receive (and act on) the market's feedback. It's almost as if their Sega/Hudson announcement is intended to serve as hype, instead of to inform!
I'm shocked.
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Never the less the less, having any Turbo Grafx 16 games would be very interesting anyways.
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Well, if all this pans out, then I'm buying a Rev for sure. I still hope it'll be possible to put your own creations on big N's virtual console service. Kinda like how Xbox360 Live arcade works I guess.
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Ok, I just read about this on some of the main game sites. Now, I'm just waiting for them to claim that Rev will be the first to offer such a service. :?
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Remember -- they said Turbo Grafx games. They didn't say Turbo Grafx-CD games.
They will most likely NOT offer CD games since they are huge (usually 500-700MB) (the Rev's built-in memory is only 512MB).
Same applies for Mega-CD. They only said Genesis games.
Oh, and my guess is they will not offer Japanese games outside of Japan. Same as Falcom only offering their music on iTunes to Japanese residents.
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I'm guessing it'll at least start with Hudson published games, which is still a good number of solid titles. As far as how much they are, I would guess $5-$10.
And as far as Genesis titles go, I'm guessing those will also begin with Sega published titles. Here's what Beth Llewelyn from Nintendo had to say in an interview w/IGN:
IGN: So, SEGA Genesis and TurboGrafx games on Revolution's Virtual Console. That makes us happy. Does this mean all SEGA and TurboGrafx games will come over?
Beth: That's kind of up to SEGA, as to what they want to provide. But what we talked about today was kind of a best-of from SEGA and then TurboGrafx games. But we haven't gone into specifics about what that means or what some of the games will be. But the idea is that you will be able to play some of your favorite SEGA Genesis games or some of the games that were out on the TurboGrafx.
IGN: Is this an exclusive agreement?
Beth: Not necessarily exclusive, but we're just excited to have that content on the Revolution.
IGN: And when you speak about SEGA and Hudson, does this announcement mean that just titles published by those companies on Genesis and TurboGrafx may come to Revolution?
Beth: It could be beyond that. But obviously that would be a discussion between publishers and SEGA.
IGN: Are any other deals like this in the works?
Beth: Obviously we want to make a very robust library for the Virtual Console, so there may be other announcements down the road.
So it sounds like what they're saying is: "We're going to support those two platforms with the Revolution. But what Sega and Hudson put out beyond their own titles is up to them to work out w/other publishers."
Either way, I'm just happy that a new generation of gamers will be able to play and be exposed to the Turbografx.
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Click here! (http://the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm)
R E V O L U T I O N
- Follow-up with yesterday's announcement of supporting PC-Engine/Turbografx and Genesis game software via virtual console on Revolution, Nintendo confirmed that PC-Engine/Turobgrafx CD-ROM2 games will be supported, but no confirmation on Mega-CD/Sega-CD games yet.
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we could still see games like
PC-Engine/TG-16 Nectaris ~ Military Madness
and SuperGrafx Daimakaimura ~ Ghouls N Ghosts and Aldynes
unless I am mistaken, both were developed by Hudson or NEC Avenue and published by one or the other.
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This is beautiful, this could mean, extra exposure for us independant gamers making new games for the Turbo, YAY!!!!
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Hay guys!
I'm excited about the wider audience this could bring the Turbo. I highly doubt this will include Turbo or Sega CDs though. But if they were really interested in having a very high volume of quality titles they could always convert the music to a lower bitrate format. The Turbo games are huge, but of course most of that is uncompressed cd audio.
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Actually, the Revolution will play Turbo cd's, so, we're good to go!
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FAMITSU SUPPOSEDLY CONFIRMS PC-ENGINE CD-ROM2 GAMES ON REVOLUTION
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=91942
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/03/24/103,1143166680,50500,0,0.html
Y's I/II, III, IV and Rayxanber II should then be playable
WHAT ABOUT SUPER CD-ROM2 GAMES ????
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
I wanna play Spriggan II and Rayxanber III as well, among others!
Babelfish translation
Hudson enters into the software download business with respect to revolution!
2006/3/24
- With "virtual console" business new possibility
It announced that 2006 March 24th, Hudson the next generation machine revolution where sale is planned (* the code name) enters into the hypothetical game platform "virtual console" business which is used from Nintendo Co.. This "virtual console", through network, the system which can download the game software with respect to revolution. It is the case that it reaches the point where the user while being in the home, downloads the game software for the game machine for home, can enjoy directly.
Hudson the game software which is sold in this virtual console business, past the PC engine series (CD-ROM2 it includes) as business is with supply schedule. As for the title which is sold as the software for the PC engine series 670 or more (as for the same company software when 122 titles) it reaches, being, the past masterpiece, it may become delightful service in the how person who again would like to play, don't you think? is.
(insert pic of a PC Engine titled "Virtual console")
- As for photograph PC engine CD-ROM2 (ROM ROM). It includes this hard, downloading the software of the PC engine series, it is possible to enjoy.
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oh boy it's true, it comes straight from Hudson!
http://www.hudson.co.jp/corp/news/bn2006/060324.pdf
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Damn, I just read that Famitsu article and was about to post it here. I guess everybody beat me to it. :)
I have no doubt that CD/SCD/ACD games will be playable on the Rev. Remember that CD-ROM2 refers to the brand, rather than specific capabilities within that brand (ie SCD/ACD).
What would be damn cool is putting your original PCE CD into the Rev and playing it directly (like somehow it'll detect that it's a PCE CD and automatically load the PCE VC and the game).
Now just gotta wait for some enterprising company to make a controller converter dongles for the various consoles in order to use the original console's controllers. And if these Rev dongle hook directly to the Rev controller, then we get free wireless PCE controllers too. :D
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Imagine Playing NEO NECTARIS on Revolution
8)
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Wow, CD support. That was something I really didn't expect.
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Hmm, another thing this is making me think, is what if for some reason, this actually gets some companies to make more copies of games, like say, Dracula X or Sapphire, or maybe even finish games that never got released!? I know that's a long shot, but, then again, all of this stuff about playing Turbo on the Rev. "was" a long shot, so far of a long shot, that, it didn't even come to mind, until Nintendo mentioned it, so, who knows!? Maybe we'll finally get that Contra that was never finished for the Turbo(in my dreams that is) :D
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I hope they emulate the turbo switches somehow. It wouldn't be the same playing Bonk without them.
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Wow, CD support. That was something I really didn't expect.
YES! AWESOME!
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Maybe we'll finally get that Contra that was never finished for the Turbo(in my dreams that is) :D
Quite possible since Konami owns Hudson now....:P
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I have an obvious question that hasn't been addressed:
How accurate will the emulation be on Revolution?
I'm most interested in how TG-16 hardware will be emulated... any past examples of this? (IIRC, someone here mentioned that a Dreamcast download service in Japan offered a bunch of emulated PCE games several years ago -- but I think they only offered HuCard ROMs... ).
:)
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I have an obvious question that hasn't been addressed:
How accurate will the emulation be on Revolution?
I'm most interested in how TG-16 hardware will be emulated... any past examples of this? (IIRC, someone here mentioned that a Dreamcast download service in Japan offered a bunch of emulated PCE games several years ago -- but I think they only offered HuCard ROMs... ).
:)
Well there are several commercial emulation services out there right now. Time Warner offers a virtual console service with Sega games from pretty much all their consoles. I've heard good things about the quality of the emulation on there for the most part, but I've never tried it. Makes you wonder what kind of deal Sega has with Nintendo, vs. their deal with Time Warner. Hudson, though, has no deal with anyone as far as I know.
This Dreamcast thing really interests me. Could this mean that, somewhere in the world, there are VMUs with PCE games on them, and perhaps a good emulator?
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I wonder if there's a possibilty of Saturn emulation on Rev. I remember rumors of a Sat emu for DC, but of course nothing ever came of them. However, it seemed like Sega might have at least considered the possibility. Perhaps there's some code laying around.
As for Rev's emulation quality, I suspect that it'll be good enough for most but crappy for the console "purists" out there. :) It sounds like it'll all be software based, so it should be possible to upgrade the emus for better compatibility if necessary.
Now, if Nintendo announces their next Gameboy with virtual console capability/compatibility with Rev, then they will have become the Apple/iTunes/iPod of video games.
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I have an obvious question that hasn't been addressed:
How accurate will the emulation be on Revolution?
I'm most interested in how TG-16 hardware will be emulated... any past examples of this? (IIRC, someone here mentioned that a Dreamcast download service in Japan offered a bunch of emulated PCE games several years ago -- but I think they only offered HuCard ROMs... ).
:)
Well there are several commercial emulation services out there right now. Time Warner offers a virtual console service with Sega games from pretty much all their consoles. I've heard good things about the quality of the emulation on there for the most part, but I've never tried it. Makes you wonder what kind of deal Sega has with Nintendo, vs. their deal with Time Warner. Hudson, though, has no deal with anyone as far as I know.
This Dreamcast thing really interests me. Could this mean that, somewhere in the world, there are VMUs with PCE games on them, and perhaps a good emulator?
Agreed. If only we could find some folks with first-hand experience with Dreamcast PCE games -- especially the technical aspects!
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I wonder if there's a possibilty of Saturn emulation on Rev. I remember rumors of a Sat emu for DC, but of course nothing ever came of them. However, it seemed like Sega might have at least considered the possibility. Perhaps there's some code laying around.
As for Rev's emulation quality, I suspect that it'll be good enough for most but crappy for the console "purists" out there. :) It sounds like it'll all be software based, so it should be possible to upgrade the emus for better compatibility if necessary.
Well, if this is a litmus test, I suppose I'm one of those bastard console purists... but I still would like to check out the Revolution (or any service offering PCE games) simply for the novelty of it. But I'm not going to waste too much money on emulation -- it's better spent elsewhere, IMO. Still, if money was not a concern, I'd want to try all the PCE games offered, from any service, just to see what it was like!
Now, if Nintendo announces their next Gameboy with virtual console capability/compatibility with Rev, then they will have become the Apple/iTunes/iPod of video games.
Hahahahhahaa. Nintendo, like Apple, have been very clever at making money. We'll soon see what their master plan is :)
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If this machine is able to directly play SCDs...this will definately mean a big boost in independant PCE developments, as PD stated. More exposure = good. :D
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Check this out. Got this info from a Hudson rep:
I don't know what titles will be available for the Virtual Console domestically. We're hoping to release the entire TurboGrafx US library, but there may be licensing issues and publishing issues to deal with. As far as import titles go, that's all up in the air.
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Check this out. Got this info from a Hudson rep:
I don't know what titles will be available for the Virtual Console domestically. We're hoping to release the entire TurboGrafx US library, but there may be licensing issues and publishing issues to deal with. As far as import titles go, that's all up in the air.
Well, at least the rep is being optimistic. :) I am rather pessimistic, myself, but I am happy to hear this from Hudson. Thanks for sharing it :).
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That's interesting. Somehow I think it would suck if Nintendo had different offerings for different regions. Yes, that's how iTunes works unfortunately, but I guess it all depends how the various companies want to do it.
With all the info on the internet, it would be nice to d/l the Japanese versions of some old classics (Castlevania 3 and Gradius 2 for instance) just to see firsthand what the big deal was all about.
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All will be revealed at E3!
Thanks guys for being riled up about Hudson. Hopefully we'll have some nice surprises for you!
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I can't wait to see what is uncovered :D !
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I played Bonk's Adventure on Wii at E3 the other day and it played beautifully. The top two buttons operated as "turbo" buttons, allowing Bonk to spin through the air, so no worries about having to press the buttons repeatedly. It worked awesome.
Hudson apparently has said that all their 1st party games will be available at launch. NICE!
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Wait a minute, they had a set up for Bonk's Adventure on the Wii at E3?? :shock: I had no idea! I did read something about Hudson being responsible for a airplane game, and I assumed it was the one shown in the demo, which I thought was going to be a new pilot wings game. Please fill me in on any new Hudson info!
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Keep in mind every body.
You will have to pay a fee to... down load those games onto the Wii :P
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Nevermind, I found out all about it, plus a little extra :D . Check out this thread at Hudson's message boards http://www.hudsonentertainment.com/viewtopic.php?t=8 . I'm excited about all this new info :D . And yes, that airplane game I saw on Wii is by Hudson!
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Nevermind, I found out all about it, plus a little extra :D . Check out this thread at Hudson's message boards http://www.hudsonentertainment.com/viewtopic.php?t=8 . I'm excited about all this new info :D . And yes, that airplane game I saw on Wii is by Hudson!
Nice to see the "Wii is getting a Bman game" with it's original look.
While the 360 gets the angry looking one :lol:
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Wait a minute, they had a set up for Bonk's Adventure on the Wii at E3?? :shock: I had no idea! I did read something about Hudson being responsible for a airplane game, and I assumed it was the one shown in the demo, which I thought was going to be a new pilot wings game. Please fill me in on any new Hudson info!
Yeah, it was in the Virtual Console display, which was two playable kiosks. Also playable were Super Mario, Sonic, and Mario 64. But yeah, Bonk played perfectly.