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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG/PCE Repair/Mod Discussion => Topic started by: blueraven on September 07, 2016, 07:56:47 PM

Title: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: blueraven on September 07, 2016, 07:56:47 PM
If you have a system that has been fixed by this seller, please post your pics of the inside to this thread. That is the main intention of this post. To show what a trainwreck his work is.  =;

As far as I know, doujindance is NOT a member of our community.

Far be it from me to talk shit about a modder, because I don't offer my services very often, and certainly not commercially, but I have received several systems from this seller, doujindance, over the years. The first was in 2009, a unit purchased on eBay for $250-$270 in the days of the $75 Duo. I had just bought a broken Duo from another popular (and honest) seller, and was looking to fix it. I did, with the help of the amazing community here. I emailed doujindance when I recieved one of their units, and they never responded to my emails on eBay.

It had a spiders nest of wires running to 3 different breadboards, all of which were cobbled together and had no apparent interconnection, other than he ran out of room on the first board. I'm SURE that he understood how the F^$&(#@ thing was wired, but without any sort of reference it was like being in limbo, blindfolded, watching MacGyver, with a coathanger and chewing gum... Except it looked like he applied the gum directly over one of the chips.

Fast-Forward to 7 years later. Recently, about 5 months ago, a forum member (who will remain anonymous unless he want's to share) contacted me in DoxPhile or Sunteam_Paul's chat and sent me internal photos of his unit. I was appalled. It was packed to the brim inside, and had these three boards, all encased in bubble wrap, floating around the system. Nothing made sense. It was a nightmare. It didn't work. We couldn't figure it out in chat. From the photos, the DIN was the only thing wired correctly.

Today I hit my limit. Voultar recently shared this photo with me, a Duo-R or RX on a system received in 2016. this may not seem like Blasphemy, but I would never work on this unit:

(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/Rookstower/Video Games/repairs/screwups/TWMAIJl_zpsz38ihzbp.jpg)

This is probably the best I've seen. Keep in mind, this is ten years later, and they've barely improved, other than being "tidier" inside. With a feedback rating of over 1100, I have seen close to a hundred Duo's offered by this seller and we can only imagine they all look the same or much, much worse. They have been a member on eBay since 2007,

http://www.ebay.com/usr/doujindance
 
The most recent Duo sold was for $449 plus shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEC-PC-Engine-DUO-RX-Component-YPbPr-RGB-TG16-model-New-Lens-/201650944965?nma=true&si=djl7wXQufPvPBgNx0Al3Z7mWBMY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

PLEASE POST PHOTOS of the internals of your unit, and share your stories. I will not touch this seller's work with a 20-foot pole. I just have sent them back (eating the shipping) and apologized to the user, saying that I have no freaking clue how the units are wired, and that they should send them back to the seller.

Thank you all for listening to my warning; but If you want a RGB, Region, or mod please contact ANY OTHER MODDER instead of this person. I would name you all, but I wouldn't want to put your amazing work in the same thread as this two-bit hack who has been ripping people off for a decade.

/warning
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There are so many amazing people here who have contributed to the forums, and to the improvement of the NEC PCE (Duo).
:pray: I owe you all a debt of gratitude, and thank you for your endless contributions to keeping this system alive.  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

caw
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: mickcris on September 07, 2016, 08:22:24 PM
someone from another board sent me these about a month ago when they wanted to replace the amp in theirs

before
(http://i.imgur.com/dUlSujhl.jpg)

a bit unwrapped with new rgb amp
(http://i.imgur.com/3PpHHELl.jpg)

they said this was bought in 2012 and had svideo/rgb/and region mod
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: blueraven on September 07, 2016, 09:53:02 PM
Thank you, Mickcris.

I know I said I had seen about a hundred or so (on eBay) but on the sellers page, he has advertised that he has refurbished "Over 800 DUO's". He actually lists 780+ Duo-R's, 121 Duo-RX's, and a few others.

He lists the link to this on every one of his auctions and gives the item numbers, directing them back to this website:

http://homepage3.nifty.com/moremaco/record.htm

(And a screenshot for those of you who are boycotting eBay)

(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/Rookstower/Video Games/repairs/screwups/84BQ2wG9jr2KY6nOpuDNzdEtT82y7d9dBc4hwv54rMs_zpsorxjq9a1.png)

The thing that scares me the most is that over 1000 of these units exist in the wild. Multiply that by $400+/- and $80 shipping.  :-k
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: Zero_Gamer on September 08, 2016, 12:24:01 AM
Those things look like fire hazards!
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: tbone3969 on September 08, 2016, 02:03:54 AM
Those things look like fire hazards!

Thank god Keith Courage did my RGB mod.  He did say the region mod installed previously in the system was pretty budget however.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: Gentlegamer on September 08, 2016, 02:31:08 AM
Do the lights dim when those are plugged in and turn on?
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: Necromancer on September 08, 2016, 02:44:56 AM
Many buyers are happy with his stuff..... right up to the point that something needs fixed.  If everything works, they'll never see the mess inside or care how it was done, which is how he manages to stay in business.

Even if his mods were completed in a more professional manner, I still wouldn't buy from him.  His prices aren't very good, and he's too far away to fix anything if trouble arises; you can ship it back, sure, but that's pricey, slow, and the long shipping risks stuff getting jostled loose.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: mickcris on September 08, 2016, 05:15:50 AM
I doubt he would even let you ship it back to him for fix if the need arose.  I recall seeing him say somewhere that he was not a repairman.   
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: bob on September 08, 2016, 06:43:35 AM
wasnt some ass-clown defending duoj on here a while ago?
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: SignOfZeta on September 08, 2016, 07:13:36 AM
Wow. That's genuinely the shittiest work I've ever seen. It's one thing when you're 8 years old, just fixing your own stuff, but if you're going to be doing this professionally for huge profit... this is just theft. Scotch tape and bubble wrap have no place here!

I thought he was a member here at one point. Maybe not. His name gets thrown around a lot.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: Keith Courage on September 08, 2016, 09:05:43 AM
The chips/mods he uses are not horrible but my biggest gripe is that black/brownish epoxy or whatever that he uses to glue all his wires down/together. It makes it hell to try and repair anything if it ever goes bad. Generally if I have to repair any of his work it's easier to uninstall the initial part by disconnecting everything and put in a new mods instead of trying to find the bad wire/connection that's causing the problem.

Oh and don't get me started on that 8pdt switch he uses for his region mods in black pc engine DUOs. He hot glues them right to the motherboard. It makes it hell to line up and re-glue this switch after performing any other repair to the system. Not to mention the fun of having to remove it in order to recap the system. Hot glue for switches is fine. Just not over the top of parts that might need to be changed at some point(Caps).
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: mickcris on September 08, 2016, 09:25:11 AM
I think that's the Hong Kong game dr that uses these 8pdt switches, not duojindance.  They should come off pretty easily with isopropyl alcohol.  I imagine they are a pain to line back up though
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: csgx1 on September 08, 2016, 12:18:01 PM
Damn, what a mess.  Almost looks like someone was trying to smuggle something with all the plastic wrap. 
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: Keith Courage on September 08, 2016, 03:58:51 PM

I think that's the Hong Kong game dr that uses these 8pdt switches, not duojindance.  They should come off pretty easily with isopropyl alcohol.  I imagine they are a pain to line back up though

I've seen this done by both of those sellers. maybe he doesn't do it on the newer ones that he sells nowadays but definitely some of the older ones.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: esteban on September 08, 2016, 04:03:58 PM
There was an older thread documenting "the worst mods"  Hall of Shame...

It would worthwhile to link to it and/or copy paste verified info into this thread.

:)

THIS NEEDS to be a PSA (public service announcement)....
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: Gypsy on September 09, 2016, 08:50:52 AM
Those things look like fire hazards!

Thank god Keith Courage did my RGB mod.  He did say the region mod installed previously in the system was pretty budget however.

Keith is the man! mickcris too.

I doubt he would even let you ship it back to him for fix if the need arose.  I recall seeing him say somewhere that he was not a repairman.

Lol what a dick.

I think that's the Hong Kong game dr that uses these 8pdt switches, not duojindance.  They should come off pretty easily with isopropyl alcohol.  I imagine they are a pain to line back up though

I got my region modded Coregrafx from HK Game DR, it was pretty sloppy work from the looks of it. It works, but there is a reason I bought a white PCE unit.


I think that's the Hong Kong game dr that uses these 8pdt switches, not duojindance.  They should come off pretty easily with isopropyl alcohol.  I imagine they are a pain to line back up though

I've seen this done by both of those sellers. maybe he doesn't do it on the newer ones that he sells nowadays but definitely some of the older ones.

I should still have old pics of when I opened up my Core Grafx if anyone is interested. There was some hot glue action going on iirc.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: Voultar on September 09, 2016, 08:58:40 AM
When the customer sent me those pictures, I immediately thought OGHugo was behind that deplorable mod-work. Maybe bubble-wrap is U/L compliant over there in Japan.  ](*,) ](*,)
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: L-Digital on September 09, 2016, 07:49:23 PM
Looks exactly like mine did before I got rid of it. Classic doijindance
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: jetfire13 on September 11, 2016, 04:30:52 AM
Damn OGhugo!

I got hosed by that dude before I was on these forums and realized what a hack he was. I'm sending my PCE DUO to mickcris in the next few days for assessment and repair.

Shout out to mickcris for offering to help me out.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: goofus on September 12, 2016, 10:20:46 AM
Ok, I feel like an idiot now  ](*,) . I got a RGB-modded PC Engine Duo-r from doujindance literally just a few days ago. His 100% rating on e-bay and what I at least thought to be fair prices must have fooled me hard. Non-modded PC Engine Duo-rs are sold on e-bay for not much less, so I figured with an RGB-mod, SCART cable and region modded it couldn't be such a bad deal.

I must say though, the quality of the RGB-video output itself is, as of now at least, very good in my opinion. It looks extremely colorful and crisp on the PVM I use. I don't have any other consoles custom-modded for RGB, but the output of the PC Engine seems to be better than the stock RGB output of Saturn, PS1 and Super Nintendo. Seeing that bubble-wrapped mess on those pictures I'm seriously worried what I've gotten myself into, though, especially if modders like you guys go so far as to say it's unservicable, which sucks to think about as something is bound to go wrong down the line.

The problem I have had, and which I wanted to register on this forum to ask around for, is that on a couple of the CD Rom2's I have there are sometimes freezes, sometimes the audio skips, and one particular Super CD Rom (Babel) doesn't get past the first logo. Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes 2 plays flawlessly though, or at least I haven't noticed any artifacts as of yet playing it for a couple of hours. All my discs are originals, and from the looks of them doesn't appear to be noticably scratched or dirty. Attempting to clean them with a microfiber cloth for glasses seemed to make things worse too. Since doujindance says he swaps the lense, a new lense shouldn't have trouble reading discs, and Duo-rs shouldn't have failing capacitors, so unless the CDs actually are badly damaged I don't know what to make of it.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: Keith Courage on September 12, 2016, 10:45:43 AM
Ok, I feel like an idiot now  ](*,) . I got a RGB-modded PC Engine Duo-r from doujindance literally just a few days ago. His 100% rating on e-bay and what I at least thought to be fair prices must have fooled me hard. Non-modded PC Engine Duo-rs are sold on e-bay for not much less, so I figured with an RGB-mod, SCART cable and region modded it couldn't be such a bad deal.

I must say though, the quality of the RGB-video output itself is, as of now at least, very good in my opinion. It looks extremely colorful and crisp on the PVM I use. I don't have any other consoles custom-modded for RGB, but the output of the PC Engine seems to be better than the stock RGB output of Saturn, PS1 and Super Nintendo. Seeing that bubble-wrapped mess on those pictures I'm seriously worried what I've gotten myself into, though, especially if modders like you guys go so far as to say it's unservicable, which sucks to think about as something is bound to go wrong down the line.

The problem I have had, and which I wanted to register on this forum to ask around for, is that on a couple of the CD Rom2's I have there are sometimes freezes, sometimes the audio skips, and one particular Super CD Rom (Babel) doesn't get past the first logo. Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes 2 plays flawlessly though, or at least I haven't noticed any artifacts as of yet playing it for a couple of hours. All my discs are originals, and from the looks of them doesn't appear to be noticably scratched or dirty. Attempting to clean them with a microfiber cloth for glasses seemed to make things worse too. Since doujindance says he swaps the lense, a new lense shouldn't have trouble reading discs, and Duo-rs shouldn't have failing capacitors, so unless the CDs actually are badly damaged I don't know what to make of it.

are the games freezing up in the middle of game play or do they freeze up when loading up another portion of the game?
kind of sounds to me like the CD lens might just need a little bit of potentiometer adjustment. typically the v-102 potentiometer is the one that needs to be adjusted to fix read errors.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: goofus on September 12, 2016, 10:52:19 AM
Ok, I feel like an idiot now  ](*,) . I got a RGB-modded PC Engine Duo-r from doujindance literally just a few days ago. His 100% rating on e-bay and what I at least thought to be fair prices must have fooled me hard. Non-modded PC Engine Duo-rs are sold on e-bay for not much less, so I figured with an RGB-mod, SCART cable and region modded it couldn't be such a bad deal.

I must say though, the quality of the RGB-video output itself is, as of now at least, very good in my opinion. It looks extremely colorful and crisp on the PVM I use. I don't have any other consoles custom-modded for RGB, but the output of the PC Engine seems to be better than the stock RGB output of Saturn, PS1 and Super Nintendo. Seeing that bubble-wrapped mess on those pictures I'm seriously worried what I've gotten myself into, though, especially if modders like you guys go so far as to say it's unservicable, which sucks to think about as something is bound to go wrong down the line.

The problem I have had, and which I wanted to register on this forum to ask around for, is that on a couple of the CD Rom2's I have there are sometimes freezes, sometimes the audio skips, and one particular Super CD Rom (Babel) doesn't get past the first logo. Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes 2 plays flawlessly though, or at least I haven't noticed any artifacts as of yet playing it for a couple of hours. All my discs are originals, and from the looks of them doesn't appear to be noticably scratched or dirty. Attempting to clean them with a microfiber cloth for glasses seemed to make things worse too. Since doujindance says he swaps the lense, a new lense shouldn't have trouble reading discs, and Duo-rs shouldn't have failing capacitors, so unless the CDs actually are badly damaged I don't know what to make of it.

are the games freezing up in the middle of game play or do they freeze up when loading up another portion of the game?

I think it's during loading, but to be honest in Jantei Monogatari for example I can't really tell the difference, as the game seems to be loading constantly between the cutscenes with audio portions and when you choose actions on the menu. In Princess Maker 1 it seemed to be during loading of a new portion as well. As for the audio dropping out, that happened during the intro in Jantei Monogatari also.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: mickcris on September 12, 2016, 11:04:40 AM
His 100% rating on e-bay and what I at least thought to be fair prices must have fooled me hard.

OGHugo also has a 100% feedback rating.  #-o usually people figure out too late what they got and already left feedback.  I had a duojindance duo-r a while back.  Then i modded another console with a better amp so i got rid of it.  The RGB circuit he uses (or at least did, not sure if he changed) develops a yellow tint after a while.
I kind of felt bad about selling that duojindance console and recently contacted the buyer and said i would redo it with better mods for free, but he said he was happy with anyways.

your console is serviceable, but you just have to find someone will be willing to work on it.  some wont touch it, others might just remove all the mods and redo it.

just sounds like he did not tune the drive after replacing the lens.  those "new" lens are also pretty crap.  have heard of some dying after not too much use.  they should only be used as a last resort if the original lens is burned out.  they should not be replaced just as preventative maintenance.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: goofus on September 12, 2016, 11:05:15 AM


kind of sounds to me like the CD lens might just need a little bit of potentiometer adjustment. typically the v-102 potentiometer is the one that needs to be adjusted to fix read errors.


Thanks for the tip! That's funny though, doujindance did a video on that on his youtube channel himself, adjusting the potentiometer you mentioned with a screwdriver. Someone in the comments noted you should never use a mechanical screwdriver when adjusting it though, I don't know nearly enough about this stuff to have a valid opinion. If links are allowed I could link it here if you haven't seen it.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: goofus on September 12, 2016, 11:26:50 AM



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I had a duojindance duo-r a while back.  Then i modded another console with a better amp so i got rid of it.  The RGB circuit he uses (or at least did, not sure if he changed) develops a yellow tint after a while.

Do you mean a yellow tint in the RGB output? That sounds horrible, the last thing I want is an RGB output looking like cat piss. Thank you for the heads up, though.

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I kind of felt bad about selling that duojindance console and recently contacted the buyer and said i would redo it with better mods for free, but he said he was happy with anyways.

I guess if it seems to be working fine you don't want to think about what problems might arise later and just enjoy it for the time being. After all gaming is supposed to be a fun hobby, not a chore or an endless nightmare of problems.

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your console is serviceable, but you just have to find someone will be willing to work on it.  some wont touch it, others might just remove all the mods and redo it.

Well that's good to know. At least I could be able to warn the person doing the servicing or remodding in advance so they know what bubble-wrapped hunk of junk to expect.

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just sounds like he did not tune the drive after replacing the lens.  those "new" lens are also pretty crap.  have heard of some dying after not too much use.  they should only be used as a last resort if the original lens is burned out.  they should not be replaced just as preventative maintenance.


Right, so he even replaces potentially well-functioning lenses with el cheapo ones just as an gimmick and doesn't even care that they might crap out just as soon anyways. What a guy.

Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: mickcris on September 12, 2016, 11:35:49 AM
Do you mean a yellow tint in the RGB output? That sounds horrible, the last thing I want is an RGB output looking like cat piss. Thank you for the heads up, though.


yeah.  see here:
http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/yellow-tint-with-rgb-mod-duo-r.43378/
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: goofus on September 12, 2016, 12:09:28 PM

yeah.  see here:
http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/yellow-tint-with-rgb-mod-duo-r.43378/


Doesn't look promising. I guess I should play the games I want fast before things start going downhill. Luckily I do have an original PC Engine with AV Booster, and an RGB via EXT connector by fidde_se cable coming in the mail (please don't tell me that's crap too),so I have a reliable backup for my hucards anyway, but what has me the most exited is the CD Rom games so it does suck anyway considering what I paid already.

To his credit though, from all I've heard about jailbars being a huge problem in PC engine RGB output I can't say I've noticed any at all in the hucard and CD rom games I've tested.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: SignOfZeta on September 12, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
Better than the stock RGB from a Saturn? That's...honestly kind of hard to believe. It would be the best PCE mod I ever saw if that was the case.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: EmperorIng on September 12, 2016, 02:14:53 PM
To doujindance's credit, I've had one of his modded Duo-R's for over a year with no real issues; a few CD skipping issues seem to be more localized in specific CDs than a widespread problem with the system/lens. I opened it up towards the beginning of my owning the system when I was worried about pot adjustments, but I can't remember how the inside looked.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: goofus on September 12, 2016, 02:41:13 PM
Better than the stock RGB from a Saturn? That's...honestly kind of hard to believe. It would be the best PCE mod I ever saw if that was the case.

I didn't do a side by side comparison, but the picture quality I get from games like Princess Crown (the only 2d-game I've played extensively on the Saturn) seemed not quite as bright and colorful as the intro video in Dragon Slayer - The Legend of Heroes 2, though the overall graphic detail is much better in Princess Crown of course. Compared to the TurboEngine emulator running on my IPS monitor it's miles more vibrant, the colors on the IPS look noticably washed out in comparison. RGB on PVM all the way, no questions there. Needless to say there are many variables here beside the RGB output itself, including cables, my eyesight, sense of judgement and memory, and at the end of the day it's all subjective. Take it with a huge grain of salt.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: goofus on September 13, 2016, 02:13:48 AM
A little update: I contacted doujindance asking about the CD playback trouble, and if he actually checked the if the laser was functioning properly. He replied saying that he indeed did proof-test that the laser was operating, "using a 9V stabilized power supply and a oscilloscope  supplied with the standard voltage and current of a Japanese house". He also admits that he does receive a small number of mails from customers complaining about the CD reading capabilities every year.

He goes on to remind me that the console is used outside Japan, and that my AC current is higher than the 100V there. No shit Sherlock. The fact that he himself packs in a universal power adaptor with 100-240V  50/60hz input rating, and that the output of that to the console would be DC 9V 1.3A anyway doesn't seem to concern him too much. I even use a 230-110V 45 Watt AC converter because I didn't have any plug converter at hand. He furthermore asks me to adjust the potentiometer as shown in his youtube video.

Is he just bullshitting, or could the difference in AC current coming from the socket have anything to do with in when you're using a universal power adaptor with the right output and even a step-down converter? I've never had any problems with lasers on any of the other imported consoles I use.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: mickcris on September 13, 2016, 02:18:55 AM
He is bullshitting. That is his common response.  The console runs off 2 7805 voltage regulators.  The voltage of the power supply is not that critical.  As long as it's in the range of voltages that will work with the 7805.

I recall him telling black tiger something along the same line for his N64.  It was about Japanese rgb only guaranteed to work in Japan or something like that.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: MNKyDeth on September 13, 2016, 02:22:13 AM
I myself when checking the original power supplies that come with the PCE Duo's they normally output between 12-15v testing directly at the power plug that goes into the console.

The 7805's take that voltage and turn it into a solid 5v.

The excess energy is dissipated as heat so the higher the voltage the hotter the 7805's will get. I am not sure if there are any parts of the board that actually use the full voltage from the wall wart power supplies.

I figured it all ran straight to the 7805's after the fuse to get regulated to 5v.

My US power brick for a US TurboDuo puts out the exact same voltage or very close to the Japanese power bricks just for a comparison. They are both within that 12-15v range. Even though they say 10v etc they output higher than what they say I have found.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: mickcris on September 13, 2016, 02:32:04 AM
It's also a possibility that he really thinks that.  So maybe he's not exactly bullshitting and just doesn't know how it works.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: goofus on September 13, 2016, 03:00:17 AM
Thanks for the replies. Figured as much, as I've never heard about the AC voltage from a socket causing malfunction in a component in such a way, as long as it's regulated by converters and the DC output of the adaptor itself is within the safe range of the voltage regulators, as you say.

My US power brick for a US TurboDuo puts out the exact same voltage or very close to the Japanese power bricks just for a comparison. They are both within that 12-15v range. Even though they say 10v etc they output higher than what they say I have found.

So even if the rated DC 9V 1.3A output of the boxed in power supply is not what is exactly output the difference is nothing that should cause malfunction in the CD-reading capabilties of the laser itself and nothing else, and only in some games. It powers on and off fine, hucards play flawlessly, and at least one of my Super CD Rom2 games plays flawlessly. I don't understand why he would even bother with mentioning socket AC voltage differences as a cause for this when there are so many more apparent causes that could be addressed first.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: mickcris on September 13, 2016, 03:10:09 AM
I don't understand why he would even bother with mentioning socket AC voltage differences as a cause for this when there are so many more apparent causes that could be addressed first.

I think he hopes people will just believe what he says and stop bothering him.  Like I mentioned above, Black Tiger could not get an RGB modded N64 to work that he bought.  He told him something like its only guaranteed to work on Japanese RGB monitors, or something similar. 

Or he really believes that there is something magical coming out the sockets in Japan and electronics only work right there.

In his defense though, sometimes the cd drives can be a bitch to get working well.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: Xenogears on September 26, 2016, 11:20:28 AM
I do the Modding in Europe and I am shocked and cannot believe it is that hard to work accurate and use good materials...
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: brandonx76 on October 09, 2016, 03:45:03 AM
I'm going to open my unit soon - bought from doujindance - had been pretty happy with the unit TBH except a jailbar issue.

Now I'm worried - because all I wanna do is fix the common 'jailbar' issue.  (As detailed by Tim Worthington here: http://etim.net.au/av-driver/pcebars/)

I believed this would be a 'simple' mod but wanted to ask around about the particular capacitors on this motherboard (DuoRX) because I'm not sure I'll be able to figure them out based on description?

Also I'm trying to verify if these capacitors will be a suitable fix:EDIT: these look to be a match:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R24A7QO/ref=biss_dp_t_asn

Tim's specs are:

Capacitor type: Ceramic (MLCC)
Package size: 0805
Capacitance: 4.7 uF
Maximum voltage: 16V or 25V
Dielectric T.C.: X7R

Anyway, when I do get to it, I'll be sure to post pics.  And if the problem is too bad, (dealing with hot gun glue issues?!?  hope not!) I may ask to hire someone else.  I'm US based, but don't mind shipping etc, but looking for reputable modder who may have time.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, I'm trying to confirm / verify, which actual capacitors apply to my motherboard design.  Anyone know off hand for the Duo RX?

Any info appreciated.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: mickcris on October 09, 2016, 09:42:45 AM
I'm going to open my unit soon - bought from doujindance - had been pretty happy with the unit TBH except a jailbar issue.

Now I'm worried - because all I wanna do is fix the common 'jailbar' issue.  (As detailed by Tim Worthington here: http://etim.net.au/av-driver/pcebars/)

I believed this would be a 'simple' mod but wanted to ask around about the particular capacitors on this motherboard (DuoRX) because I'm not sure I'll be able to figure them out based on description?

Also I'm trying to verify if these capacitors will be a suitable fix:EDIT: these look to be a match:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R24A7QO/ref=biss_dp_t_asn

Tim's specs are:

Capacitor type: Ceramic (MLCC)
Package size: 0805
Capacitance: 4.7 uF
Maximum voltage: 16V or 25V
Dielectric T.C.: X7R

Anyway, when I do get to it, I'll be sure to post pics.  And if the problem is too bad, (dealing with hot gun glue issues?!?  hope not!) I may ask to hire someone else.  I'm US based, but don't mind shipping etc, but looking for reputable modder who may have time.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, I'm trying to confirm / verify, which actual capacitors apply to my motherboard design.  Anyone know off hand for the Duo RX?

Any info appreciated.  Thank you!


Those are correct but that price is pretty high.  I can send you a couple if you are in the USA for a dollar.  PM me if interested and i will give you my paypal address.

here is where they go on the Duo-R/RX
(http://i.imgur.com/GixxyuHl.jpg)

it will not real simple since the caps are on the bottom of the pcb (directly under the hu6260) and you will have to pull it out of the case without disturbing the wires to change them.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: brandonx76 on October 09, 2016, 10:14:00 AM
hey thanks very much Mcchris - and PCEnuggets - got a PM from him.

You guys are great.

I think I'm going to turn this over to PCE Nuggets for the full service - I'm interested to see what he finds. I've recently learned a bit about the Yellowing issue - as well as the reduced power capability issue (to run Everdrive 2.x) so hoping to have this reviewed as well, in addition to capacitor check/review. 

Would be interested to see before and after pics.  I'll try to post them here.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: pipi on February 01, 2024, 09:49:06 AM
Hi all,

sorry for reviving this old thread but I did not do my homeworks right and bought this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193940403328

Then, all happy, I came to the forum and wanted to share to check if someone had it and what was the review and...
Found this horror thread.

Should I skip installing it?
Will it ruin my hardware?
I've read horrible things like the colors will become yellow...
I also know it needs a specific scart cable, maybe that is the cause of the wrong colors?

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: majors on February 01, 2024, 11:57:49 AM
I've read horrible things like the colors will become yellow...
I'm no expert but I've notice s-vid has the "yellow", not RGB. I have a pre-mod'd Doujin Duo, that I'm basing my observations on. I do not think the video mod chip is bad, just their method of install. I'm sure others can chime in.

I think the eBay link you have is just for RGB, not s-vid. It does keep the composite function on the og Duo cable but you'll need to buy another DIN cable for truly gorgeous RGB. 
Title: Re: Doujindance = CRAP RGB Mods. DONT BUY FROM THIS SELLER (but post pics)
Post by: Keith Courage on February 05, 2024, 05:56:36 AM
His mods have greatly improved since this thread started. Probably starting around 6 years ago his quality took a big jump. I'd feel confident using any mod boards purchased from there.

Long gone are the days of opening up a DUO-R and seeing a bread board of components with bubble wrap around it. Well, I still see it every now and again when people send me duos for servicing but anything modded by him within the past 6 years or so no longer has the poor quality mods installed.