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Title: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on January 20, 2018, 01:13:25 PM
What is the best pc engine controller? For gaming I own a battle pad and the d pad is the worst so I was wondering about converters or controllers so I can get a better d pad.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Gypsy on January 20, 2018, 01:51:21 PM
Basically any of them.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Black Tiger on January 20, 2018, 02:27:35 PM
The most common "2" button pads with turbo switches is my favorite controller of all time.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Gypsy on January 20, 2018, 03:00:26 PM
The most common "2" button pads with turbo switches is my favorite controller of all time.

It's a great design for sure. I have a 3 button but I don't use it unless I have to.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: lukester on January 20, 2018, 04:14:36 PM
My favorite the the Avenue Pad 3. Has a mappable run/select button
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 20, 2018, 05:28:50 PM
I agree with everyone else.
Title: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: esteban on January 21, 2018, 01:35:00 AM
These are good:
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/DIN_plug_comparison_1.jpg)

...especially if you have a malformed claw instead of a hand.

Title: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: esteban on January 21, 2018, 01:55:13 AM
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/DIN_plug_comparison_3.jpg)

The best PCE controllers have a mini-DIN that hasn’t been bent, broken or crushed by a powerful force.

You can also use TG-16 controllers (we refer to this at pcefx as going “FULL DIN”) with a PCE console if you get a DIN to mini-DIN cable.



Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Black Tiger on January 21, 2018, 03:07:55 AM
I don't like the Blaster for PCE or MD. The d-pad is stiff and not circular. I'd put up with the narrow shape of the pad if there was a reason to use a 3-button pad, but I haven't encountered one yet.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: esteban on January 21, 2018, 05:17:08 AM
I don't like the Blaster for PCE or MD. The d-pad is stiff and not circular. I'd put up with the narrow shape of the pad if there was a reason to use a 3-button pad, but I haven't encountered one yet.

Yeah, that sounds like good info to share with folks before they buy something. So...

I should make a disclaimer:  I love Famicom/NES controllers in general (including the d-pads)...

...and my Ave 3 (in addition to the 3-button Blaster above) are my “go-to” pads 90% of the time.

I have fun using the third button to shift speeds in shootemups and other random functions in a handful of games.

3-button pads, in general, are not necessary, but I happen to love using them (only a small percentage of games utilize SELECT and/or RUN button in a significant manner...so clearly, I am easily entertained).

:)

WARNING: The 3-button PC BLASTER has a switch that might be annoying (sharp and pokey) depending on how you hold the controller. My kids don’t like it, for example, but I don’t have any issues.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Johnpv on January 21, 2018, 08:56:01 AM
I've got 3 different ones, and the Avenue 3, and original models are good but the D-pads are so tiny on them.  I recently got the hori 6 button pad for it, and absolutely love it.  It's become my go to controller for the system.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on January 21, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Thanks for the respones i just got into collecting for pc engine / turbografx and the controller i got is called the battle pad and the d-pad on that thing is horrible.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: PunkicCyborg on January 21, 2018, 11:25:00 AM
Shuttle pad is the best :D
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on January 21, 2018, 02:57:48 PM
Shuttle pad is the best :D
Those controllers look really comfortable with the wing design.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: imparanoic on January 21, 2018, 04:41:59 PM
hori fighter commander is decent, but rare, avenue 6 is nice
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: turboswimbz on January 22, 2018, 12:36:10 AM
all up to preference

I like most of them

I find the ave 3 to the most comfortable personally. if you play a lot of fighters you'll prob. wnat a 3 or 6 button controller.  if you just play in general, just get a standard pad that works.  IF you like a more arcade feel any of the arcade sticks are great.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Necromancer on January 22, 2018, 02:03:28 AM
I like all the two-buttoners I've tried; they all feel about the same (and the Ave 3 feels just as good), but I'm most partial to the wireless ones so I'm not tripping over extension cords.  I don't much care for either the Ave 6 or the RX pad, as the former's d-pad makes my thumb sore and the latter's d-pad feels stiff and weird.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: GohanX on January 22, 2018, 02:50:20 AM
I agree with most of the guys here, the regular 2 button pads are generally the best and there's not a lot of difference between them. I've been using a Avenue 3 lately instead since I like the extra button, it feels largely the same but the controller is bigger so it may be more comfortable if you've got bigger hands. I'm undecided since with the two button pads I have my index fingers over the top like a SNES controller as my preferred way of holding it and I can't do that with an Ave 3.

I don't really get the love for the Shuttle pad. It's a fine pad, but I like the regular ones better.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Necromancer on January 22, 2018, 02:51:53 AM
I want a Shuttle pad and a Hori 6 buttoner.  They both look so comfy.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: VmprHntrD on January 22, 2018, 04:09:01 AM
I read the Avenue 3/6 pads are garbage, to go with Hori.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: xelement5x on January 22, 2018, 04:30:51 AM
Shuttle pad is the best :D

I agree with this.


And I've heard to avoid the RX pad as it's kind of shite.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: ClodBuster on January 22, 2018, 05:15:55 AM
The regular CoreGrafx and TurboDuo pads give me a slightly hurting left thumb after playing some hectic shooters. Still, I like them much better than the Genesis 3-button controllers. Having adjustable turbo switches is a must for games like Gradius. Concave buttons are not my thing for long sessions, but they do the job well enough.

I haven't spent enough time with the Avenue 3 pad yet to make any conclusion about it. Being able to map button III to select or start is useful for Blazing Lazers. Otherwise anything I said about so far about the regular controllers applies to it, too.

The Hori PC Fighting Commander is a quite nice 6-button controller. I've got to spend some more time with it, but I think the strictly cross-shaped D-pad and convex buttons are pleasant to operate. Sometimes I wish you could configure your button placement freely, e.g. like putting the II and I buttons in the places were the SNES controller's Y and B buttons are. Also, having no shoulder buttons with this shape of controller still freaks me out in a funny way. What you can not do is map button III to select or start, if I remember correctly - I've got to double check this tonight.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on January 22, 2018, 09:49:26 AM
I like all the two-buttoners I've tried; they all feel about the same (and the Ave 3 feels just as good), but I'm most partial to the wireless ones so I'm not tripping over extension cords.  I don't much care for either the Ave 6 or the RX pad, as the former's d-pad makes my thumb sore and the latter's d-pad feels stiff and weird.
Is it radio waves or IR

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Necromancer on January 22, 2018, 10:09:18 AM
Is it radio waves or IR?

IR, so it can be a pain maintaining line of sight sometimes.  I like to play rpgs and digi-comics a lot, though, and those usually don't require close timing and are pretty forgiving if you've tipped the controller too far out of line.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on January 22, 2018, 10:26:10 AM
Is it radio waves or IR?

IR, so it can be a pain maintaining line of sight sometimes.  I like to play rpgs and digi-comics a lot, though, and those usually don't require close timing and are pretty forgiving if you've tipped the controller too far out of line.
Darn that sucks

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: ClodBuster on January 22, 2018, 05:30:52 PM
Another word on the Hori PC Fighting Commander 6-button controller. On mine, the soft plastic of the cord has started to desintegrate, by leaving a sticky residue. No matter how good you clean it, it will become sticky again after a few months.
This is pretty similar to the synthetic rubber overmoldings of screwdrivers, power tools and other devices such as computer mice and the Sony Dualshock 3 joystick rubber caps. Some of them will become awfully sticky to touch over time, others just last dry.

Good thing the cord on that controller is rather generic, I will replace it.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: crazydean on January 22, 2018, 05:43:49 PM
We now have bluetooth controllers for NES, SNES, Genny, DC, and Saturn. Maybe someone will make a receiver for the PCE.  :pray:
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: spenoza on January 23, 2018, 04:53:16 AM
For as plain and chunky and not comfortable-looking as the NEC Avenue Pad 6 is, it's actually really comfortable. It looks like it shouldn't be, but it works.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: VmprHntrD on January 24, 2018, 03:30:58 AM
Currently I just have one core grafx II controller, that's it, and I so love that built in turbo as a choice.

That said, I asked around and read around about a 6 button controller, and I'm not certain really why but I see people dump on the Avenue 6 (and 3) for not being so great while the Hori Fighting Commander is top notch.  It has backed me off considering the avenue even if it does cost like $5-10 less.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: stlpaul on January 25, 2018, 05:20:39 AM
The standard 2-button NEC pads are awesome.

For 6-button, I like the Hori better than the Avenue 6.

For 3-button, I like the Avenue 3 better than the Blaster Pad.

For arcade sticks I like Hori Fighting Stick PC the best.

But none of the PC-Engine controllers I've used have been bad, just some felt better than others.

I've never tried the Arcade Pad 6 (Duo-RX pad), I've read that the d-pad on it is not great. And I've never had the pleasure of trying any of the weird analog controllers but there's only a few games that work with those anyway.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Digi.k on January 25, 2018, 05:29:44 AM
my NEC Avenue pad 6 is missing from this pic but I like these all..
(https://i.imgur.com/ihJRIV7.jpg?1)
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Gypsy on January 25, 2018, 05:45:47 AM
I wish the receiver for the wireless pads wasn't so expensive. That's a real nice set of controllers.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: soop on January 27, 2018, 05:06:41 AM
hori fighter commander is decent, but rare, avenue 6 is nice

This is my fave too.  Kind of annoyed that I can't find mine 🤔
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on January 27, 2018, 07:28:44 PM
my NEC Avenue pad 6 is missing from this pic but I like these all..
(https://i.imgur.com/ihJRIV7.jpg?1)
What games used the mouse accessory?

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Bloufo on January 27, 2018, 08:41:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YaTdUdG.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/u4eBWGs.jpg)



:P
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: ClodBuster on January 27, 2018, 09:45:54 PM
Poser ;)
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Digi.k on January 28, 2018, 12:37:39 AM

What games used the mouse accessory?



http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=764.0
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: esteban on January 28, 2018, 12:45:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/YaTdUdG.jpg)

Wait...I don’t recall ever seeing that PCE TURBO STICK before...

How is that possible?

Anyway, tell me about this item. Any docs inside? Like cute directions with images?

MOAR INFO!

:)
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Bloufo on January 28, 2018, 02:10:05 AM
Wait...I don’t recall ever seeing that PCE TURBO STICK before...

How is that possible?

Anyway, tell me about this item. Any docs inside? Like cute directions with images?

MOAR INFO!

:)

It's model no: PI-PD4.

Originally released back in the late 80's.



(https://i.imgur.com/kGpvidN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cVGCj60.jpg)
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on January 28, 2018, 06:45:56 AM

What games used the mouse accessory?



http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=764.0
Thanks

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on February 03, 2018, 12:10:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YaTdUdG.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/u4eBWGs.jpg)



(https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji14.png)
Is that a eurpeon controller in the second picture

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: cabbage on February 03, 2018, 08:04:16 PM
(http://pce.lifeabroad.org/foo/vistar-pad.jpg)
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Bloufo on February 03, 2018, 08:34:54 PM
Is that a european controller in the second picture


The 2nd from left controller in the top row?
Yeah that came with the PAL Turbo.


(http://i65.tinypic.com/2vmj39g.jpg)


Pronounced in Korean as "biseutar" :P

Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on February 03, 2018, 08:38:19 PM
Is that a european controller in the second picture


The 2nd from left controller in the top row?
Yeah that came with the PAL Turbo.


(http://i65.tinypic.com/2vmj39g.jpg)


Pronounced in Korean as "biseutar" (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji14.png)
Man you got lucky on that one

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Ex_Mosquito on February 03, 2018, 11:58:50 PM
With a soldering iron you can make any controller you want with a padhack. The Hori Fighting Commander is pretty nice, though. The PCE pads are pretty bad imo, especially for shooters.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2m6ljwh.jpg)
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: esteban on February 04, 2018, 12:35:15 AM
Wait...I don’t recall ever seeing that PCE TURBO STICK before...

How is that possible?

Anyway, tell me about this item. Any docs inside? Like cute directions with images?

MOAR INFO!

:)

It's model no: PI-PD4.

Originally released back in the late 80's.



(https://i.imgur.com/kGpvidN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cVGCj60.jpg)

Comrade!

Thank you very much.

I thought I was very familiar with all things PCE, but something so obvious like this controller just never registered in my brain.

(I have the North American TurboStick...so I assumed the PCE version was simply a different color scheme?)

I wonder how many other obvious things I have missed...
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Bloufo on February 04, 2018, 12:46:01 AM
I wonder how many other obvious things I have missed...
I posted those pics even though I thought you may have been putting me on.

I kinda still do. :P
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: schweaty on February 04, 2018, 01:46:43 AM
I prefer the Hori Commander (the 2-button, not the Fighting Commander).  I think it has the best d-pad

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Post by: SignOfZeta on February 04, 2018, 02:45:18 AM
With a soldering iron you can make any controller you want with a padhack. The Hori Fighting Commander is pretty nice, though. The PCE pads are pretty bad imo, especially for shooters.


Bad compared to what?
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on February 05, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
I prefer the Hori Commander (the 2-button, not the Fighting Commander).  I think it has the best d-pad

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Wasnt that also on the master system?

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: schweaty on February 05, 2018, 11:58:09 AM
I prefer the Hori Commander (the 2-button, not the Fighting Commander).  I think it has the best d-pad

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Wasnt that also on the master system?

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Yes.  Hori made the exact same controller with a slightly different color scheme for the SMS.  I'd love to get my hands on one of those as well

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: esteban on February 05, 2018, 12:02:13 PM
I wonder how many other obvious things I have missed...
I posted those pics even though I thought you may have been putting me on.

I kinda still do. :P

Bloufo, ha!

I totally tease folks and goof around, but sometimes I’m just a fool.

:)

Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on February 05, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
I prefer the Hori Commander (the 2-button, not the Fighting Commander).  I think it has the best d-pad

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Wasnt that also on the master system?

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Yes.  Hori made the exact same controller with a slightly different color scheme for the SMS.  I'd love to get my hands on one of those as well

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Yeah that be a good controller for any master system play

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: VmprHntrD on February 08, 2018, 01:30:31 PM
There any particular reason when it comes to the six button controller why people tend to rip on the Avenue and suck up to the Hori one instead?  I mean I get the Hori one looks like a SNES controller, d-pad and all, but is that it or is there some comfort or defect issue with the other?

The price difference kind of sucks and I'd like to get one so I can handle those 3-6 button games better.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: turboswimbz on February 09, 2018, 12:26:56 AM
There any particular reason when it comes to the six button controller why people tend to rip on the Avenue and suck up to the Hori one instead?  I mean I get the Hori one looks like a SNES controller, d-pad and all, but is that it or is there some comfort or defect issue with the other?

The price difference kind of sucks and I'd like to get one so I can handle those 3-6 button games better.

The biggest problem I've seen people have the Ave 6 vs the Hori for most people is generally comfort. As The 6 is squared off, while the Hori feels like Nintendon't.

I also have heard a few people say they prefer the D-pad on the hori. 

I am a big fan of the Ave 3 and 6 pads.  They are my go to if I'm playing a game the 2 buttons can't handle. I've never had any issues with any of the ave 3 or 6 controllers I've owned.  I would recommend them. 
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: VmprHntrD on February 09, 2018, 01:57:44 AM
Alright that's fair.  I come from a Nintendo background and really enjoy the style/feel of the SNES controller.  That said though, I don't care if a PCE controller is squared off like an NES controller (though it is less pointy) or rounded off like the dogbone/snes style.

A bad D-pad that is wonky in response or gets painful in time is a deal breaker, same with buttons that can be a bit off in feel as it can ruin a game, not corners.

I guess I'll just try and source the Ave6 since it seems to cost like $10-20 less than the Hori.  I'm looking to snap up a copy of SF2 and I'd like to get an Everdrive too, so it would be needed.  I was thinking of that SSS3 but it's looking a bit messy now and that UperGrafx is tempting if it gets evaluated positively by some buyers as reviews don't seem to exist.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: turboswimbz on February 09, 2018, 02:01:12 AM
Yeah I've never felt the D-pad held me back,

and played for hours without ever feeling uncomfortable. my mits are bit larger though.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: VmprHntrD on February 09, 2018, 02:06:16 AM
Fair enough and good to know.  I don't have tiny hands, not sure they're large either.  I find the way I hold a classic NES controller the tips poke into where my finger first bends at the knuckle but I can ignore that so this should be alright.

Now to try and source one from the US or Japan and figure out a fair value I won't exceed.  Yamatoku has one closing for $25 ($14 shipping) though he also has Xevious I'd like at $12 and he does at some point combine shipping but refuses to say how much (alone is +14 which sucks.)
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Johnpv on February 09, 2018, 03:36:36 AM
There any particular reason when it comes to the six button controller why people tend to rip on the Avenue and suck up to the Hori one instead?  I mean I get the Hori one looks like a SNES controller, d-pad and all, but is that it or is there some comfort or defect issue with the other?

The price difference kind of sucks and I'd like to get one so I can handle those 3-6 button games better.

I can only talk about the 3 button AV, but the 6 button and 3 button look to have the same d-pad.  Which for me is just too small.  I just found the D-pad on it to be a bit frustrating to use, while the d-pad on the Hori one is much bigger and felt better for me.

I guess for me, maybe I have big thumbs, so it wasn't like terrible, and I could make do with the AV3 D-pad, but since getting the hori one, I haven't looked back.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: schweaty on February 09, 2018, 07:26:22 AM
I think most people's issues with the ave 6 d-pad are where it's positioned on the controller.  It's low  so you have to strain your thumb horizontally which causes fatigue over time.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on February 09, 2018, 07:15:46 PM
With a soldering iron you can make any controller you want with a padhack. The Hori Fighting Commander is pretty nice, though. The PCE pads are pretty bad imo, especially for shooters.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2m6ljwh.jpg)
That is very true but everyone doesnt have that skill and that seem to much like an overthrow with a majority of games using the two button style.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: soop on February 14, 2018, 11:47:50 PM
I think most people's issues with the ave 6 d-pad are where it's positioned on the controller.  It's low  so you have to strain your thumb horizontally which causes fatigue over time.

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Maybe.  I found that my hands hurt after about 20 mins of Streetfighter II, but I thought it was the stiffness of the pad.

Also, with regards to the soldering, there's a board you can get called the MC (Multi console) Cthulhu.  It can auto-detect what it's plugged into.  The idea is that you get an RJ45 pass-thru and crimp your own controller extensions to the machine of your choice, and then you have one great stick for everything.

I have a nice Xbox 360 Hori arcade stick which I'm planning to mod, but I am also a little aprehensive about ruining it.  Still, nothing ventured, nothing gained.  And all I'd really wreck is the existing board.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 15, 2018, 08:50:52 AM
I’ve had Street Fighter II’ and a six button pad for ages and I never play it. Rather than spend/build I’d rather just play a better version on a system with a better controller selection.

Six button compatibility for PCE is massively overrated, especially by noobs who want the technical ability to play as much PCE soft as possible before they’ve really played hardly any of it. Nobody is sitting around going “Dang! If I only had a six button pad for my PCE!” That situation almost never comes up and when it does it’s usually because people like the D-pad better. I’d rather spend money on the pachi controller or PCE mouse as I’m far more likely to use them. If I had a good stick I’d need two and then when people came over they’d just be like “WTF are we playing this version? It was relevant for literally 8 months. The Saturn has all five versions of SFII and it can play two samples at the same time. You’re a f*cking idiot.” and I get enough disrespectful comments like that about my Laserdisc collection as it is.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Necromancer on February 15, 2018, 08:53:18 AM
That's when you bust out Strip Fighter 2.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Gredler on February 15, 2018, 03:10:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5sBbptc.jpg)

and

(https://i.imgur.com/gBzrYBs.jpg)

are my favorites :)
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Flare65 on February 16, 2018, 01:19:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/5sBbptc.jpg)

and

(https://i.imgur.com/gBzrYBs.jpg)

are my favorites :)


That white and red one is sexxxy af!  Did you custom build it?
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Necromancer on February 16, 2018, 01:42:40 AM
Santa Bartre made it for him.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Gypsy on February 16, 2018, 01:45:43 AM
Santa Bartre is a badass mf.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Gredler on February 16, 2018, 06:09:22 AM
That PCE stick is un-fricking-believable.

It's got a RJ-45 female port for it's connection to the system (ethernet jack). You can take cables for most other systems and convert the controller side to the RJ-45 to use this stick on various systems. Bartre hooked me up so fat, I am forever indebted. He included a PS1/2 cable, a PC/PS3 cable (have not tried it on my 360 yet), and of course a PCE cable. It works great on those systems, I've used it almost daily since getting it. I am currently playing Neutopia with it, such a different experience playing that game with a arcade stick really gives it a arcade action game feel. I crimped a SNES controller cable for it, and am hoping to crimp a Saturn and NES cable this weekend. The stick in both of those sticks is a Seimitsu LS-32 which I personally love the feel of.

Here are some more pics:

(https://i.imgur.com/cXSLnNM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OaWGmcm.jpg)

The Fightstick PC is great too, I loved it before getting Bartre's masterpiece. The edges are kind of sharp and get uncomfortable during long periods of play, and when I got it there was a lot of rust buildup on the bottom plate, and there was corrosion and rust on the actual shaft of the stick and microswitches, so I had to swap that out for it to work responsively and consistently. I put a LS-32 in it as well (all of my microswitch sticks have those now)

Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on February 16, 2018, 06:28:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5sBbptc.jpg)

and

(https://i.imgur.com/gBzrYBs.jpg)

are my favorites :)
Those look amazing

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on February 21, 2018, 12:28:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5sBbptc.jpg)

and

(https://i.imgur.com/gBzrYBs.jpg)

are my favorites :)
What parts did you use for those arcade sticks

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: ClodBuster on February 21, 2018, 04:25:18 PM
Whar other punctuation keys aside from the question mark are you missing on your keyboard


SCNR

PS: Gredler, that white stick/board looks very nice.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Gredler on February 21, 2018, 04:48:15 PM
What parts did you use for those arcade sticks


The one with PC-Engine in red text on it was made by the forum member here named bartre, he'll have to respond for what he put in it. He gifted it to me, excessively generously.

The grey Hori Fighting Stick PC in the bottom picture only has the stick replaced and I used a Seimitsu LS-32-01 Joystick. https://www.focusattack.com/new-seimitsu-ls-32-01-joystick-2017-model/ But not the 2017 version I did that mod late 2015 early 2016.

On this stick I also used a Seimitsu LS-32-01 Joystick and Sanwa OBSF 30mm buttons (https://www.focusattack.com/sanwa-obsf-30mm-pushbuttons-light-blue/)

(https://i.imgur.com/Q4sN5Ws.jpg)

This is the same shell that bartre used to make the PC-Engine stick, which was the PS3 Madcatz Fight Stick which they released a few times under different branding:
Street Fighter IV version:
(http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/article/948/948655/mad-catz-fightstick-20090127035643697.jpg)

WWE Version (I got 2 of these for 70$ shipped at one point, and used one to make the above gradius stick)
(http://content.propertyroom.com/listings/sellers/seller1/images/origimgs/mad-catz-wwe-all-stars-brawl-stick-controller-for-sony-ps3-1_101120161934357637701.jpg)

They also released a Wii variation for Tatsunoko VS Capcom
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51GNWL5m9EL._SX425_.jpg)

I think Madcatz sold the shell molds to a company called mayflash? I plan on getting one of these and swapping the PCB with genesis controller so I have a niceish microswitch stick on FEKA. Their sticks look almost identical to the Madcatz fightstick shell:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015PHMFU/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I169NSDUDN564A&colid=1R29VAFM828WT&psc=0
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81hbhAunT2L._AC_.jpg)

and I just recently got this wireless bluetooth rechargable li-battery powered stick for the Switch (works also with my android phone & tablets, laptop, and SNES Classic, and was on sale for under 50$), Love this thing so far but eventually want to add seimitsu stick and sanwa buttons:
https://www.amazon.com/8Bitdo-Arcade-Stick-Nintendo-Switch-Android/dp/B073ZNXFL6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519278456&sr=8-1&keywords=8bitdo+n30
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6QoAAOSwcXVZ6XDQ/s-l300.jpg)
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on February 21, 2018, 11:22:39 PM
What parts did you use for those arcade sticks


The one with PC-Engine in red text on it was made by the forum member here named bartre, he'll have to respond for what he put in it. He gifted it to me, excessively generously.

The grey Hori Fighting Stick PC in the bottom picture only has the stick replaced and I used a Seimitsu LS-32-01 Joystick. https://www.focusattack.com/new-seimitsu-ls-32-01-joystick-2017-model/ But not the 2017 version I did that mod late 2015 early 2016.

On this stick I also used a Seimitsu LS-32-01 Joystick and Sanwa OBSF 30mm buttons (https://www.focusattack.com/sanwa-obsf-30mm-pushbuttons-light-blue/)

(https://i.imgur.com/Q4sN5Ws.jpg)

This is the same shell that bartre used to make the PC-Engine stick, which was the PS3 Madcatz Fight Stick which they released a few times under different branding:
Street Fighter IV version:
(http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/article/948/948655/mad-catz-fightstick-20090127035643697.jpg)

WWE Version (I got 2 of these for 70$ shipped at one point, and used one to make the above gradius stick)
(http://content.propertyroom.com/listings/sellers/seller1/images/origimgs/mad-catz-wwe-all-stars-brawl-stick-controller-for-sony-ps3-1_101120161934357637701.jpg)

They also released a Wii variation for Tatsunoko VS Capcom
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51GNWL5m9EL._SX425_.jpg)

I think Madcatz sold the shell molds to a company called mayflash? I plan on getting one of these and swapping the PCB with genesis controller so I have a niceish microswitch stick on FEKA. Their sticks look almost identical to the Madcatz fightstick shell:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015PHMFU/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I169NSDUDN564A&colid=1R29VAFM828WT&psc=0
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81hbhAunT2L._AC_.jpg)

and I just recently got this wireless bluetooth rechargable li-battery powered stick for the Switch (works also with my android phone & tablets, laptop, and SNES Classic, and was on sale for under 50$), Love this thing so far but eventually want to add seimitsu stick and sanwa buttons:
https://www.amazon.com/8Bitdo-Arcade-Stick-Nintendo-Switch-Android/dp/B073ZNXFL6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519278456&sr=8-1&keywords=8bitdo+n30
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6QoAAOSwcXVZ6XDQ/s-l300.jpg)
Thanks for the info ive been looking into arcade sticks

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Johnpv on February 22, 2018, 12:21:29 AM
Man I really want to attempt to make something like Bartre made for you.  I have the Mayflash F300, and I dropped a Sanwa stick into it.  Really happy with that so far, and it works on PS3, PS4, 360, Xbox One, Switch and PC.  I need something though for my older consoles. I have a few SNES, and Genesis arcade sticks from that time period and I'm just not happy with any of them.   I also have a Pelican Real Arcade Universal that will work with PS1/2, OG Xbox and GC, but I still need a good Saturn, SNES, Genesis, and PCE solution.  I really need to do something like Bartre, hopefully he'll come by this thread and post about what he did. 

Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Gredler on February 22, 2018, 01:33:05 PM
Man I really want to attempt to make something like Bartre made for you.  I have the Mayflash F300, and I dropped a Sanwa stick into it.  Really happy with that so far, and it works on PS3, PS4, 360, Xbox One, Switch and PC.  I need something though for my older consoles. I have a few SNES, and Genesis arcade sticks from that time period and I'm just not happy with any of them.   I also have a Pelican Real Arcade Universal that will work with PS1/2, OG Xbox and GC, but I still need a good Saturn, SNES, Genesis, and PCE solution.  I really need to do something like Bartre, hopefully he'll come by this thread and post about what he did. 



He gutted the original ps4/ps3/pc PCB and put a MC Cthulu RJ-45 board in with a new port in the back. The RJ-45 cord can be crimped to make cables for various systems.

https://paradisearcadeshop.com/fgc-console-joystick/1828-toodles-mc-cthulhu.html

I definitely think MC Cthulhu is a great option, but it's not the only option.

Another diy stick board is the brook universal fighting board, but that's for newer systems afaik https://www.focusattack.com/brook-universal-fighting-board/

Another option is the get a decent ps1/2 stick and get tototek adapters, so you can use a nice ps1/2 stick on the PCE that way.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: GaijinD on February 24, 2018, 12:20:14 PM
I also have a Pelican Real Arcade Universal that will work with PS1/2, OG Xbox and GC, but I still need a good Saturn, SNES, Genesis, and PCE solution.

I have one of those Pelican sticks as well, but stopped using it as I heard the PCB design had a tendency to burn out controller ports. One of these days I'd like to have the board swapped out, so I can go back to using it without worrying that I'll damage one of my consoles.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Johnpv on February 25, 2018, 03:32:41 AM
I also have a Pelican Real Arcade Universal that will work with PS1/2, OG Xbox and GC, but I still need a good Saturn, SNES, Genesis, and PCE solution.

I have one of those Pelican sticks as well, but stopped using it as I heard the PCB design had a tendency to burn out controller ports. One of these days I'd like to have the board swapped out, so I can go back to using it without worrying that I'll damage one of my consoles.


Yeah I recently read online about that.  I may have missed some posts or comments but it seemed like it first started popping up from some people who were swapping controllers while the system was on.  Now I'm old school here and I was always told that was a big no no, and a rock solid way of either f*cking up your system or your controller.   

I hate to do the I've used it for years with no problems kind of post, but yeah I used it a lot back in the day and had no issues with it.  Again though I NEVER hot swap controllers that have to be plugged in on any of my system.  I don't know if that's it and if there are posts from people saying they didn't do that and it still fried their port then I totally missed them and that's on me.  Food for thought though. 
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: GaijinD on February 25, 2018, 07:01:15 PM
I hate to do the I've used it for years with no problems kind of post, but yeah I used it a lot back in the day and had no issues with it.  Again though I NEVER hot swap controllers that have to be plugged in on any of my system.  I don't know if that's it and if there are posts from people saying they didn't do that and it still fried their port then I totally missed them and that's on me.  Food for thought though.

Well, I don't have any way to know for sure if the stick was the cause, but I did start having issues with one of the ports on my Xbox, which was the system I used it on most. I also generally don't plug or unplug controllers while the system is on, either. I liked the stick, but I decided to play it safe. That, and Wii games that support GameCube controllers completely fail to detect it, so my hope would be that a new PCB would fix that. I'd love to use it for some Tatsunoko vs Capcom.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on February 26, 2018, 02:59:35 PM
Does the avenue 6 have a programmable button like the avenue 3

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Necromancer on February 27, 2018, 01:53:00 AM
Nope, just a mode a/b button to switch between 2 and 6 button modes.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on February 28, 2018, 11:17:40 AM
Nope, just a mode a/b button to switch between 2 and 6 button modes.
Thats kind of a waste isnt it

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: ClodBuster on March 01, 2018, 12:57:55 AM
One thing is for sure, you neither waste question marks nor other punctuations, do you?
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on March 01, 2018, 03:24:00 PM
One thing is for sure, you neither waste question marks nor other punctuations, do you?
Yeah i kinda do most of this stuff at school.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on March 01, 2018, 03:29:03 PM
One thing is for sure, you neither waste question marks nor other punctuations, do you?
Yeah i kinda do most of this stuff at school.

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Or right after I wake up so I forget about it to easily.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: ClodBuster on March 01, 2018, 04:43:41 PM
Thanks. There's also the EDIT button if you wish to avoid accidental double posts. Disabling the Tapatalk generated signature in your tapatalk settings and sometimes writing more than just one short sentence per post is also appreciated.

These unwritten rules are not gamebreaking, but if you wish to show you're caring for forum discussion culture, following them will gain you appreciation by other members and sweet, sweet (imaginary) bonus points.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on March 02, 2018, 12:05:41 PM
Thanks. There's also the EDIT button if you wish to avoid accidental double posts. Disabling the Tapatalk generated signature in your tapatalk settings and sometimes writing more than just one short sentence per post is also appreciated.

These unwritten rules are not gamebreaking, but if you wish to show you're caring for forum discussion culture, following them will gain you appreciation by other members and sweet, sweet (imaginary) bonus points.
Thank you I have been trying to figure all of this out since ive joined this fourm. Since it works well off and on so its a pain.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on March 21, 2018, 02:22:22 PM
Ive updated the topic for the discussion about pc engine / turbografx 16 controllers or converters.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Johnpv on March 22, 2018, 05:15:25 AM

Well, I don't have any way to know for sure if the stick was the cause, but I did start having issues with one of the ports on my Xbox, which was the system I used it on most. I also generally don't plug or unplug controllers while the system is on, either. I liked the stick, but I decided to play it safe. That, and Wii games that support GameCube controllers completely fail to detect it, so my hope would be that a new PCB would fix that. I'd love to use it for some Tatsunoko vs Capcom.

Well this gives me enough pause to not use it any more.  I'm slowly collecting the things needed to build my own multi-system arcade stick.  I bought one of those MC Cthulhu boards, and going to do a similar thing to the arcade stick in this thread.  So I'll just end up using that for PS1/1 and GC stuff. 
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on March 30, 2018, 06:57:02 PM
So was there any wireless controllers that used radio frequencies or is it all mainly IR I know the official NEC one is IR.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: lukester on March 30, 2018, 07:08:21 PM
One thing is for sure, you neither waste question marks nor other punctuations, do you?
Yeah i kinda do most of this stuff at school.

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How old are you dude? I’m 19, sophomore in college. I post on my phone occasionally
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on March 30, 2018, 07:13:08 PM
One thing is for sure, you neither waste question marks nor other punctuations, do you?
Yeah i kinda do most of this stuff at school.

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How old are you dude? I’m 19, sophomore in college. I post on my phone occasionally
Still in highschool but got into many things from doing emulation then into getting the hardware.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: lukester on March 31, 2018, 10:40:26 AM
Damn dude nice. Good to see more Gen Z people play the Turbo.

I joined PCEFX when I was 13. Have grown quite a lot since then. Used to have a Duo-R but now I just have a Coregrafx 2, mostly emulate as well.

What are your favorite games? Maybe we got some in common.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on April 01, 2018, 06:44:46 AM
Damn dude nice. Good to see more Gen Z people play the Turbo.

I joined PCEFX when I was 13. Have grown quite a lot since then. Used to have a Duo-R but now I just have a Coregrafx 2, mostly emulate as well.

What are your favorite games? Maybe we got some in common.
Most of my personal favorites are
Zelda link to the past
Metroid zero mission
Castlvania 3
Alien crush
Legendary axe


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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on April 01, 2018, 06:58:44 AM
Damn dude nice. Good to see more Gen Z people play the Turbo.

I joined PCEFX when I was 13. Have grown quite a lot since then. Used to have a Duo-R but now I just have a Coregrafx 2, mostly emulate as well.

What are your favorite games? Maybe we got some in common.
Most of my personal favorites are
Zelda link to the past
Metroid zero mission
Castlvania 3
Alien crush
Legendary axe


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Well I haven't gotten to far in turbo but I recently just got a pc engine duo from keith Courage so that list will change. Since I'm able to purchase pc engine games instead of turbografx 16 games which are insane now to buy.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Black Tiger on April 01, 2018, 10:09:43 AM
Damn dude nice. Good to see more Gen Z people play the Turbo.

I joined PCEFX when I was 13. Have grown quite a lot since then. Used to have a Duo-R but now I just have a Coregrafx 2, mostly emulate as well.

What are your favorite games? Maybe we got some in common.
Most of my personal favorites are
Zelda link to the past
Metroid zero mission
Castlvania 3
Alien crush
Legendary axe


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If you haven't already, you should try Dragon's Curse.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on April 01, 2018, 10:15:47 AM
Damn dude nice. Good to see more Gen Z people play the Turbo.

I joined PCEFX when I was 13. Have grown quite a lot since then. Used to have a Duo-R but now I just have a Coregrafx 2, mostly emulate as well.

What are your favorite games? Maybe we got some in common.
Most of my personal favorites are
Zelda link to the past
Metroid zero mission
Castlvania 3
Alien crush
Legendary axe


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If you haven't already, you should try Dragon's Curse.
I'm trying to find dragons curse for my turbografx

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: lukester on April 01, 2018, 01:30:38 PM
Damn dude nice. Good to see more Gen Z people play the Turbo.

I joined PCEFX when I was 13. Have grown quite a lot since then. Used to have a Duo-R but now I just have a Coregrafx 2, mostly emulate as well.

What are your favorite games? Maybe we got some in common.
Most of my personal favorites are
Zelda link to the past
Metroid zero mission
Castlvania 3
Alien crush
Legendary axe


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Well I haven't gotten to far in turbo but I recently just got a pc engine duo from keith Courage so that list will change. Since I'm able to purchase pc engine games instead of turbografx 16 games which are insane now to buy.

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Not a bad list of games, though we got some differences. I like all the 16-bit Castlevanias more than the Castlevania 3 ;) (except Dracula X snes, ew).

Here's my top 10, no order

Mario 64
Portal
Bloodborne
Garou Mark of the Wolves
Majora's Mask
Wario Land 4
Bonk's Revenge
Sonic CD
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3
Postal 2

You planning on buying games? Rondo of Blood is $200 at this point. Hope ya got some good cash, but it helps to save up for college. You'll need it for gas money/uber rides, food, hygeine stuff, maybe even alcohol if you chip in with someone.
Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on April 01, 2018, 01:36:48 PM
Damn dude nice. Good to see more Gen Z people play the Turbo.

I joined PCEFX when I was 13. Have grown quite a lot since then. Used to have a Duo-R but now I just have a Coregrafx 2, mostly emulate as well.

What are your favorite games? Maybe we got some in common.
Most of my personal favorites are
Zelda link to the past
Metroid zero mission
Castlvania 3
Alien crush
Legendary axe


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Well I haven't gotten to far in turbo but I recently just got a pc engine duo from keith Courage so that list will change. Since I'm able to purchase pc engine games instead of turbografx 16 games which are insane now to buy.

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Not a bad list of games, though we got some differences. I like all the 16-bit Castlevanias more than the Castlevania 3 ;) (except Dracula X snes, ew).

Here's my top 10, no order

Mario 64
Portal
Bloodborne
Garou Mark of the Wolves
Majora's Mask
Wario Land 4
Bonk's Revenge
Sonic CD
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3
Postal 2

You planning on buying games? Rondo of Blood is $200 at this point. Hope ya got some good cash, but it helps to save up for college. You'll need it for gas money/uber rides, food, hygeine stuff, maybe even alcohol if you chip in with someone.
Ha I'll probably have to get Rondo as a repro or get lucky and find a deal but I doubt that will happen.

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on April 04, 2018, 03:33:02 PM
Damn dude nice. Good to see more Gen Z people play the Turbo.

I joined PCEFX when I was 13. Have grown quite a lot since then. Used to have a Duo-R but now I just have a Coregrafx 2, mostly emulate as well.

What are your favorite games? Maybe we got some in common.
Most of my personal favorites are
Zelda link to the past
Metroid zero mission
Castlvania 3
Alien crush
Legendary axe


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If you haven't already, you should try Dragon's Curse.
Hey is dragons curse and dynastic hero text heavy I'm looking into the pc engine version

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Title: Re: What is a good pc engine controller?
Post by: Purple1308 on April 26, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
Hey does anyone know how the ps2 to pce converter work I always see them around compared to other controller types ?
Are they any good or just pieces of crap?

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