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Title: PC Engine Mini Hori Pad: Turbo Autofire Rate slower?
Post by: IndyCotton on April 27, 2023, 08:57:38 PM
Been ruminating a while on buying Hori's PC Engine Mini-controller (HTG-003), mainly for MiSTer FPGA's TGX16-core and perhaps beyond. However, I read from certain Japanese Amazon.com reviews and  this post from Atari-forums  (https://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=398370&sid=efd5741f4cd7151c97f27e5a7f1bd0b3#p398370)that the auto-fire rate of that controller's slightly slower (10 per second) compared to the original controller hardware of TGX16 (15 per second). Is this particularly noticeable when comparing both controllers?
Title: Re: PC Engine Mini Hori Pad: Turbo Autofire Rate slower?
Post by: majors on April 28, 2023, 09:41:51 AM
Doesn't the MiSTer core/emu already offer auto-fire from the config? Retroarch has a function to set a button to auto-fire on/off but that would not help you when using a PCE/TG mini pad since no extra buttons are present. (I guess that's why you asked)
Title: Re: PC Engine Mini Hori Pad: Turbo Autofire Rate slower?
Post by: IndyCotton on April 28, 2023, 10:15:54 PM
Doesn't the MiSTer core/emu already offer auto-fire from the config? Retroarch has a function to set a button to auto-fire on/off but that would not help you when using a PCE/TG mini pad since no extra buttons are present. (I guess that's why you asked)

While MiSTer has the autofire, it's not exactly accurate to the original hardware of TGX-16 - in fact it tends to even drop frames during autofire, making it inconsistent. MyLifeInGaming's video on MiSTer FPGA's TGX16-core documents this on here. (https://youtu.be/rhT6YYRH1EI?t=2213). Probably being a perfectionist purist here, but I've been curious of the Turbo Pad to join next to my other gamepads closing as much to the original controllers as possible.  :lol:

Retroarch's Beetle PCE looks to be pretty accurate but I've moved away from using RetroArch a long time ago due being kind of cumbersome to use with having to adjust input latency options among other things more than actually sitting down to play the games. I might explore the controller there though.

But yeah, mainly just wanting to get this controller for not only TGX-16-games but possibly try other systems with 2-button configurations like NES and Sega Master System on both MiSTer and Retroarch.



Title: Re: PC Engine Mini Hori Pad: Turbo Autofire Rate slower?
Post by: majors on May 01, 2023, 09:35:45 AM
.... Probably being a perfectionist purist here, but I've been curious of the Turbo Pad to join next to my other gamepads closing as much to the original controllers as possible.  :lol:
Yeah, I'm not too much of a purist as I play with a 360 pad for EMU, but I feel ya. Are there any PCE->USB convertors still out there or do they add extra lag?