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Title: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 11, 2008, 12:20:51 PM
http://psp.ign.com/articles/843/843553p1.html

(http://media.ign.com/games/image/object/964/964935/Bomberman-Land_PSP_rated_f-FIXboxart_160w.jpg)

You can pick it up for $29.99! ^____^
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Keranu on January 11, 2008, 07:07:58 PM
30 bucks sure is budget for a portable game. :P
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 11, 2008, 09:10:43 PM
30 bucks sure is budget for a portable game. :P

Compared to $40-$50 for a PSP game it sure is. BTW, the article states that the Wii and DS versions will be $29.99 too.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 11, 2008, 09:22:05 PM
So the shittiest handheld is also the most expensive to own...and the shittiest console, the PS3, is the same way.

Its like the 3DO never left us!

Maybe the horrible financial state of both of these systems is an indication that maybe people don't want to drop every last f*cking cent on games. maybe.

Maybe.


Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 12, 2008, 06:30:22 AM
So the shittiest handheld is also the most expensive to own...

If you owned a PSP, you'd know firsthand how shit it isn't, but until you do, shut your mouth. If I get flamed for criticizing a console without owning it, so should you. And on the slight technicality that you DO own a PSP, hmmm, I dunno, uhh BUY BETTER GAMES, PERHAPS!? The PSP hardware is awesome, it's completely your choice of software that determines the experience.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 12, 2008, 08:05:22 AM
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The PSP hardware is awesome, it's completely your choice of software that determines the experience.

The idea that I'd have to own a system before I know how good it is is silly. I have several friends with PSPs and they all just sit there never being used. I play their PSPs more than they do. Sometimes a good game comes out, they buy it, play the PSP for a while, then do back to the DS or GBA and play at least 5 games before another appealing PSP game hits the shelves.

There is no doubt that the hardware is awesome, especially the screen which I *love*, that's the reason it costs so f*cking much. When looking at a "system" though the hardware is just part of the equation, the games being 9/10 the "identity" of a system. For example, the Famicom was truly a piece of crap hardware-wise, but most people would say it was the greatest system of all time because of the software. The PSP is basically the anti-Famicom.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Keranu on January 12, 2008, 08:53:00 AM
30 bucks sure is budget for a portable game. :P

Compared to $40-$50 for a PSP game it sure is. BTW, the article states that the Wii and DS versions will be $29.99 too.
My point exactly. I think it's crazy that a portable game cost that much these days (same with 360 and PS3 games averagely costing $60).
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 12, 2008, 09:33:02 AM
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My point exactly. I think it's crazy that a portable game cost that much these days (same with 360 and PS3 games averagely costing $60).

Well most PCE games cost $60-80 back in the day, US releases were usually $40-50, and that was as long as 20 years ago when you get could a VW Golf GTI for $13,000, gas was $0.75 a gallon, milk was $1.25, etc.

Adjusted for inflation games are far cheaper than they ever have been. Pac Man on 2600 was $50 when a meal at McDonalds was $1.50. Super Famicom and early Japanese N64 games were routinely well over $100, even US releases were pricey. Chrono Trigger was $82.99 at EB, and Gretzky hockey for  N64 was $80 without backup RAM forcing you to buy a memory card. Luckily I had a memory card because it came "free" with Wonder Project J2...which cost me $114!

The money doesn't matter to me, really, its the time. If I'm going to spend 45 hours on a Super Robot Wars game it doesn't matter if W on DS is $50 and MX on PSP is $60. What matters is that MX is a port of an old PS2 game, and W is an original title, and much more suitable for portable play.

I mean, just to clear a SRW game on PSP you'll have to recharge your battery 15 times at least, and that's by the 3 hour estimate discussed in another thread, which is better than anything I've seen in the real world. With a PSP you are pretty much chained to a power cord. It might as well be a PCE LT. For that matter you might as well be chained to a TV and be playing Bomberman Land 2 on Cube since the PSP version looks to be not as cool, and the Cube version can be had for $15.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: nat on January 12, 2008, 10:02:20 AM
So the shittiest handheld is also the most expensive to own...

If you owned a PSP, you'd know firsthand how shit it isn't, but until you do, shut your mouth. If I get flamed for criticizing a console without owning it, so should you. And on the slight technicality that you DO own a PSP, hmmm, I dunno, uhh BUY BETTER GAMES, PERHAPS!? The PSP hardware is awesome, it's completely your choice of software that determines the experience.

Zeta is right. My feelings on the PSP pretty much parallel his. I love the design of the unit. The screen is awesome. But that's where the good stuff ends. I like the look of the Pippin too, but let's face it, it's next to useless. While the PSP is a little more useful than a Pippin, the DS (DS lite especially) is a far better handheld and has a far better library.

I suppose that's why there have been close to 70 million DS units sold worldwide and only 30 PSPs.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 12, 2008, 10:38:33 AM
Well I like all my games, I mostly have puzzle games, fighters and classics collections. So to me, PSP is worth it.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: MissaFX on January 12, 2008, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: Kitsunexus
Compared to $40-$50 for a PSP game it sure is. BTW, the article states that the Wii and DS versions will be $29.99 too.

I have never, ever paid more than 30 dollars for any new PSP game.  One of my local stores always will carry any new game at 30 dollars or less.  Most I buy for 20-10 dollars.  I don't know who is paying 50 for a PSP game, I cannot think of one with this high a retail.  Some are 40 dollars new, at high priced stores.  If I cannot find it locally (like JPN games) play asia often will have what I need for 20 dollars as well. 
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 12, 2008, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: Kitsunexus
Compared to $40-$50 for a PSP game it sure is. BTW, the article states that the Wii and DS versions will be $29.99 too.

I have never, ever paid more than 30 dollars for any new PSP game.  One of my local stores always will carry any new game at 30 dollars or less.  Most I buy for 20-10 dollars.  I don't know who is paying 50 for a PSP game, I cannot think of one with this high a retail.  Some are 40 dollars new, at high priced stores.  If I cannot find it locally (like JPN games) play asia often will have what I need for 20 dollars as well. 

I got a lot of mine brand new from Amazon, and some old rare ones from third-party dealers. The game is $40, but shipping takes it up to $50. >_<
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: GUTS on January 17, 2008, 03:53:21 PM
The highest retail price for PSP games now is $40, with budget ones clocking in at $20 to $30, if you're paying more than that then you're getting hosed.  DS games retail for $30-$40.  Not exactly a huge difference in price there.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Steveroni on February 05, 2008, 09:44:19 PM
http://psp.ign.com/articles/843/843553p1.html

(http://media.ign.com/games/image/object/964/964935/Bomberman-Land_PSP_rated_f-FIXboxart_160w.jpg)

You can pick it up for $29.99! ^____^


What is the difference between this and the Bomberman game already out for PSP?
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: ceti alpha on February 05, 2008, 11:43:16 PM
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Well most PCE games cost $60-80 back in the day, US releases were usually $40-50, and that was as long as 20 years ago when you get could a VW Golf GTI for $13,000, gas was $0.75 a gallon, milk was $1.25, etc.

Man, TG 16 new releases were expensive here in Canada, or at least Nova Scotia. Getting a TG 16 game, or a Genesis and SNES game for that matter, was a not a cheap transaction. For a new release you could be looking at $70-90 dollars.  :shock: But it was the late 80s/early 90s and our dollar was shite and our debt was huge. Then we kicked out the Conservatives and the Liberals came in and straightened our shit out. hmmm...sounds familiar. lol

Anyway, needless to say I didn't buy too many games for the TG 16....I didn't have that many pennies.  :P Though, near the end of TGs run the games got significantly cheaper. Even when the Duo came out it seemed as if the prices in games dropped to those $40-50 dollar ranges.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Kitsunexus on February 06, 2008, 06:48:54 AM
What is the difference between this and the Bomberman game already out for PSP?

This is more of a 3D world/platformer/minigame collection, I believe the other is straight up Bomberman old-school style (Which I have not found yet, outside of Amazon).
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Steveroni on February 06, 2008, 08:03:30 AM
What is the difference between this and the Bomberman game already out for PSP?

This is more of a 3D world/platformer/minigame collection, I believe the other is straight up Bomberman old-school style (Which I have not found yet, outside of Amazon).

That's pretty much it.  One player mode is apparently going from world to world, battling to clear stuff.  I read that you can unlock "classic" Bomberman, though I haven't done that yet.  I got it for $15.00 at Sears and have really only used it to play multi-player with my nephew in FFA and Team modes.  I suppose I should read the manual and really give the one player game a shot.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: FM-77 on February 10, 2008, 06:27:09 AM
http://psp.ign.com/articles/843/843553p1.html

You can pick it up for $29.99! ^____^


I picked it up from Mininova for $00.00! ^____^
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Kitsunexus on February 10, 2008, 07:07:16 PM
http://psp.ign.com/articles/843/843553p1.html

You can pick it up for $29.99! ^____^


I picked it up from Mininova for $00.00! ^____^


BUT YOU DON'T GET THE BOX! 0___0
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: FM-77 on February 11, 2008, 02:54:29 AM
Yeah, I know, that's what makes it so beautiful. I would've paid money to not get that box.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Keranu on February 11, 2008, 07:15:15 PM
Yeah, I know, that's what makes it so beautiful. I would've paid money to not get that box.
So you are a Virtual Console whore inside afterall!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: FM-77 on February 14, 2008, 05:16:45 AM
Yeah, I know, that's what makes it so beautiful. I would've paid money to not get that box.
So you are a Virtual Console whore inside afterall!  :mrgreen:

Naw, more like a Virtual Computer whore. I use the computer. To download stuff.


For free.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on February 19, 2008, 11:39:47 AM
And this is why I stay 2 years or more behind the video game scene.

I just got a 360 for $170.00 with 20G HD.   Picked up a bunch of games for mega cheap too-  ASF 2K8, Perfect Dark Zero, Phantasy Star universe, Enchanted Arms, and Kameo for less than $10 each.  And their all pretty awesome!

Just got on XBL and having a good time with it so far!!

Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: guyjin on February 19, 2008, 02:11:12 PM
The 360 is awesome. Definitely pick up Dead Rising for it. Any game where you get to smack zombies while wearing a servbot head is required by law to be awesome.  8)
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: ceti alpha on February 20, 2008, 01:28:52 AM
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The 360 is awesome. Definitely pick up Dead Rising for it. Any game where you get to smack zombies while wearing a servbot head is required by law to be awesome.  Cool

Yeah, I'll definitely be getting a 360 once it is hackable.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: nat on February 20, 2008, 03:16:02 AM
Screw the 360. I'm going for a PS3 with it's Bluray capabilities.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: ceti alpha on February 20, 2008, 03:27:12 AM
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Screw the 360. I'm going for a PS3 with it's Bluray capabilities.

Fair enough, but the PS3 just doesn't have the games to attract me, but more importantly the xbox media center is sweet. It will be even better on the 360 once all the hacks are finally done. I'll just end up buying a separate Blu Ray player eventually.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: nat on February 20, 2008, 04:32:32 AM
Well, neither the PS3 or the 360 has games that attract me that I can't already get on the Wii.  :P

So I might as well get a PS3, since it's already got a Bluray player built-in, and I get the added bonus of being able to play games sometime down the road when some are released that actually interest me.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: gekioh on March 02, 2008, 04:23:33 AM
Im with ya on this Kits. I love the PSP. I have a ton of games for it and I like just about all of them.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: ceti alpha on March 02, 2008, 12:57:38 PM
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Well, neither the PS3 or the 360 has games that attract me that I can't already get on the Wii.  Razz

lolmax!!  :P The Wii is fine little machine. I will definitely be getting a Wii before the 360. How does the youtube search work on the Wii? I have the Xbox (Xbmc Live) youtube script set up now and it works pretty good. Sometimes you have be really specific on what you're searching in order to get what you were actually looking for. But generally it's pretty accurate. Oh, and only a small selection of my favourites on my youtube account show up. No idea what that is. In any case it's fun to lie down on the couch and watch some TG/PCE clips/reviews on the TV.  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: nat on March 02, 2008, 12:59:26 PM
YouTube on the Wii works perfectly, it's one of the only reasons to use the Wii to connect to the Internet actually.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 02, 2008, 06:38:24 PM
Youtube also works perfectly with Apple.TV as well, and those can be hacked to run emulators that use YOUR OWN ROMS.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: ceti alpha on March 03, 2008, 05:15:20 AM
OK, so I need to get a Wii and a Dreamcast now. lol  #-o
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 03, 2008, 06:09:39 AM
Why do people want to watch Youtube on TV? TV does not help it's situation at ALL.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: ceti alpha on March 03, 2008, 06:40:46 AM
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Why do people want to watch Youtube on TV? TV does not help it's situation at ALL.

What do you mean?
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: FM-77 on March 03, 2008, 02:06:20 PM
Why do people want to watch Youtube on TV? TV does not help it's situation at ALL.

Win.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Keranu on March 03, 2008, 03:06:03 PM
Watching YouTube on Wii is so nice because you can lay on your couch and easily browse videos with the Wiimote and since TVs are usually larger than monitors. You haters need to try watching YouTube that way before you make a decision because it's truly a super comfortable experience.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: ceti alpha on March 04, 2008, 02:19:16 AM
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Watching YouTube on Wii is so nice because you can lay on your couch and easily browse videos with the Wiimote and since TVs are usually larger than monitors. You haters need to try watching YouTube that way before you make a decision because it's truly a super comfortable experience.

Keranu FTW.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: FM-77 on March 04, 2008, 05:27:40 AM
Watching YouTube on Wii is so nice because you can lay on your couch and easily browse videos with the Wiimote and since TVs are usually larger than monitors. You haters need to try watching YouTube that way before you make a decision because it's truly a super comfortable experience.


Fail. Get some air.

(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3383/couchpotatogs4.jpg)
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Necromancer on March 04, 2008, 05:37:21 AM
.....he said while sitting in front of a computer.  :D
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: ceti alpha on March 04, 2008, 07:17:13 AM
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Fail. Get some air.


(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3383/couchpotatogs4.jpg)

haha. So that's what heaven looks like.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: FM-77 on March 04, 2008, 08:05:57 AM
.....he said while sitting in front of a computer.  :D

 8)
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Keranu on March 04, 2008, 09:50:41 AM
Oh yes because hunching your back and glueing your eyes two inches in front of a computer monitor is not nerdy enough ;) . Get a life.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: nat on March 04, 2008, 10:16:57 AM
I bet Seldane looks just like the guy in that picture.
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: FM-77 on March 04, 2008, 01:05:34 PM
Oh yes because hunching your back and glueing your eyes two inches in front of a computer monitor is not nerdy enough ;) . Get a life.
Is that how you use the computer? :P
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Keranu on March 04, 2008, 02:03:23 PM
Oh yes because hunching your back and glueing your eyes two inches in front of a computer monitor is not nerdy enough ;) . Get a life.
Is that how you use the computer? :P
What nerd doesn't?
Title: Re: PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 04, 2008, 03:19:59 PM
Oh yes because hunching your back and glueing your eyes two inches in front of a computer monitor is not nerdy enough ;) . Get a life.
Is that how you use the computer? :P

It's almost how I use my home PC, I have a crappy chair.