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Title: The Wii U
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on June 07, 2011, 09:53:02 AM
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/06/touch-screen-controller-wiiu-unveiled-coming-in-2012.ars


This is actually kind of what I envisioned a Dreamcast 2 controller would be like.  I dig the idea of being able to play console games on a smaller portable screen.  Could be good.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: sunteam_paul on June 07, 2011, 10:43:31 AM
I am unsure about this. I don't know what to think.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on June 07, 2011, 11:30:29 AM
I am still confused as to whether it is just an add on for the Wii, or a stand alone game console. If it is a stand alone where do the games insert? I am afraid of the answer I might get on the latter. I am a little concerned about the direction Nintendo is taking with this. I am getting a little tired of all the gimmickry. I just want to play games dammit!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: jperryss on June 07, 2011, 11:33:32 AM
I am still confused as to whether it is just an add on for the Wii, or a stand alone game console. If it is a stand alone where do the games insert? I am afraid of the answer I might get on the latter. I am a little concerned about the direction Nintendo is taking with this. I am getting a little tired of all the gimmickry. I just want to play games dammit!


That is just the controller. The console itself looks like a curvy Wii.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/the-wiiu-nintendos-next-console/

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 07, 2011, 11:44:16 AM
The controller is absolutely 100% gimmick and I am getting tired of it as well.  I guarantee you that while the controller may feel light and comfortable at first, the size of the damn thing will be the #1 complaint during the console's life.  People hated the original Xbox controller and it was about 40 times smaller than this thing.  The Japanese won't even be able to pick it up!

The console name, Wii U, is the single most retarded thing I have ever heard.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: BlueBMW on June 07, 2011, 11:51:36 AM
Looks interesting enough, but lets face it... they're just not going to ever be able to make something as fantastic as the PC Engine.

In all seriousness though, I think that's why there is such a hardcore following of retro games.  These new systems just cant deliver the same experience as our old games can.  Call me old (27 lol) and stubborn, but it seems like newer games are more about flash and gimmick than they are about quality gaming experiences.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Keranu on June 07, 2011, 12:50:11 PM
Looks like Nintendo took everything they've done for the past 6 - 7 years and crammed it into one system. I'm going to have to see some incredible software to be impressed.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SuperDeadite on June 07, 2011, 02:13:03 PM
I'm very happy that Nintendo has chosen to make another piece of shit system.
This way, I don't have to worry about spending money on one ever.  :)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on June 07, 2011, 02:38:08 PM
The console name, Wii U, is the single most retarded thing I have ever heard.

I WUVVVV WII U AND KEN.  STWEET FIGHTO IS MY FAVOWITE GAEM.

WII U HAS SUCH COO FIUHBAWWS.

HADOOOOKEN.

I think it is kind of neat and futurtistic.  I hope the quality of it is nice though.

It looks like it'll be alright to hold.  you mostly just grip the sides, or resort to touchymode.   Your hands may be wider apart than normal, but you aren't forced to reach across the gaps.  It's almost like the wii-mote+nunchuck really.  Everything each hand needs to do is sitting on what it needs to do.  You just have a screen instead of a tether cable.  This is good.  No more f*cking flailing around like a cunt.


It looks like if they do the games right, it will be awesome.

However, given nintendos trackrecord, its going to be a ton of stupid ass gimmick games, instead of doing it right.

The Trauma Center games would do nicely though!

The whole thing LOOKS cool.  Sleek, modern, and shit.  Like how Apple tries to be. 
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Senshi on June 07, 2011, 02:38:19 PM

The console name, Wii U, is the single most retarded thing I have ever heard.

Agreed. I watched the press conference and they over thought this name big time.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on June 07, 2011, 02:51:10 PM
well one thing we're overlooking is that Japan's got a much different culture, where this sort of thing is probably normal and exciting to them.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Tatsujin on June 07, 2011, 03:12:55 PM
I'm very happy that Nintendo has chosen to make another piece of shit system.
This way, I don't have to worry about spending money on one ever.  :)

I hope the others will follow with their shit lineup as well :D
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: roflmao on June 07, 2011, 03:32:34 PM
Wii U reminds me of the movie "Kung Pow: Enter the Fist".  I love that movie.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: grahf on June 07, 2011, 03:37:44 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about this yet.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Opethian on June 07, 2011, 04:16:00 PM
I'm.....uncomfortable
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on June 07, 2011, 05:32:13 PM
Nintendo and myself could really kiss and make up if they would just realize that IMO nothing, and I mean NOTHING, can be as accurate as having a comfortable controller in your hand, fingers pressing buttons, d-pad, and/or manipulating an analog stick (flight sticks, roller balls, etc. are an exception in that they provide a very specific function). I think the advent of the NES pad is the single defining reason why games are as popular as they are in that they give the user complete control over what is onscreen. Honestly, I don't think that there will ever be an exception to this in the future, unless you like being up off the couch dancing around the living room like a dingbat. I prefer to be comfortable, with old-school controller in hand.

There, that's my rant for Wednesday, June 8th 2011.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Keranu on June 07, 2011, 05:54:54 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am getting sick and tired of recent E3's showing off no new original games whatsoever. Every title I saw at Nintendo's this year was either a sequel or remake, just like the years before it. (Star Fox 64 3D? Why not just make an entirely new Star Fox and ditch the ridiculous title name!)

Art doesn't come from sale numbers and we can't expect any new foundations to be laid unless companies start taking risks. The one thing I respected most about Nintendo is that they've usually been the only big company to take any risks in recent generations, but the focus has been on hardware rather than software. How long are we going to continue using first person engines until a totally new genre comes along to begin a new era of gaming?

I think the real changes in gaming will eventually come from independent developers because of its growing communities and lack of financial loss if a game doesn't sell. Indeed, the gaming industry has headed in the same direction as Hollywood.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Tatsujin on June 07, 2011, 07:25:09 PM
Wiiuiuiuiuii!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on June 07, 2011, 07:32:04 PM
Looks pretty rad to me, and I like the name.

It would be great if the controller was something you could take around with you, and it was the new Gameboy.  I already bought the 3DS, but I would be okay if Nintendo decided this was the future in portability instead.

Let's hope the controller does more than a VMU.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on June 07, 2011, 09:15:28 PM
I think there are some neat idea's there, but, it's still pure gimmick.  I'm alot more interested in the PSV, that thing is grabbing my attention more & more!  And it doesn't seem gimmicky to me.  Maybe if it had come out several years ago with the touch screen & all, but I actually like the touch pad idea in the back of the PSV, it feels inventive & unique, without being a gimmick or a copy of something else....though, only time will tell depending on what developers do with it!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on June 08, 2011, 01:09:16 AM
Imagine super monkey ball with using the controllers touch pad as a roller ball!

The more I see of this, the more I at least want to try it.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on June 08, 2011, 01:13:46 AM
Wiiuiuiuiuii!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DragonmasterDan on June 08, 2011, 02:49:39 AM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am getting sick and tired of recent E3's showing off no new original games whatsoever. Every title I saw at Nintendo's this year was either a sequel or remake, just like the years before it. (Star Fox 64 3D? Why not just make an entirely new Star Fox and ditch the ridiculous title name!)

That's an industry wide problem. The reality of the situation is this, people love franchises and people beg for sequels and starting a brand new franchise can be a risky proposition as things like name recognition help. I remember a few years ago looking through a top 20 selling game list, the only new (as in started within the previous 3 years) franchise on that list was Assassins Creed. The investment to produce Triple A titles continues to climb as development costs go up and companies are less and less willing to take risks. It's not JUST Nintendo.

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Art doesn't come from sale numbers and we can't expect any new foundations to be laid unless companies start taking risks. The one thing I respected most about Nintendo is that they've usually been the only big company to take any risks in recent generations, but the focus has been on hardware rather than software. How long are we going to continue using first person engines until a totally new genre comes along to begin a new era of gaming?

Yes, but MOST game companies aren't trying to produce art, they're trying to generate a profit.

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I think the real changes in gaming will eventually come from independent developers because of its growing communities and lack of financial loss if a game doesn't sell. Indeed, the gaming industry has headed in the same direction as Hollywood.

Of course, the same goes with film, music and any other art, the big boys are mostly interested in what is proven to make money.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Raizen1984 on June 08, 2011, 04:26:36 AM
I think it's good that the industry is trying new things.  That looks like one heavy ass and expensive controller though.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 08, 2011, 06:02:32 AM
Quote from: turboStar

Imagine super monkey ball with using the controllers touch pad as a roller ball!


As a Super Monkey Ball fan, I say this with all sincerity and seriousness... that is a HORRIBLE idea!  And one that will likely come to fruition.  Damn you, Sega!  The Gamecube analog stick is the single best way to control Monkey Ball.  It does not need any additional control gimmicks.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Keranu on June 08, 2011, 07:09:29 AM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am getting sick and tired of recent E3's showing off no new original games whatsoever. Every title I saw at Nintendo's this year was either a sequel or remake, just like the years before it. (Star Fox 64 3D? Why not just make an entirely new Star Fox and ditch the ridiculous title name!)

That's an industry wide problem. The reality of the situation is this, people love franchises and people beg for sequels and starting a brand new franchise can be a risky proposition as things like name recognition help. I remember a few years ago looking through a top 20 selling game list, the only new (as in started within the previous 3 years) franchise on that list was Assassins Creed. The investment to produce Triple A titles continues to climb as development costs go up and companies are less and less willing to take risks. It's not JUST Nintendo.

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Art doesn't come from sale numbers and we can't expect any new foundations to be laid unless companies start taking risks. The one thing I respected most about Nintendo is that they've usually been the only big company to take any risks in recent generations, but the focus has been on hardware rather than software. How long are we going to continue using first person engines until a totally new genre comes along to begin a new era of gaming?

Yes, but MOST game companies aren't trying to produce art, they're trying to generate a profit.

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I think the real changes in gaming will eventually come from independent developers because of its growing communities and lack of financial loss if a game doesn't sell. Indeed, the gaming industry has headed in the same direction as Hollywood.

Of course, the same goes with film, music and any other art, the big boys are mostly interested in what is proven to make money.
Not sure if you were disagreeing with me there or not. I wasn't putting any blame solely on Nintendo, they're still the company I respect most today for at least trying to be different. Can't have a beloved franchise without starting from scratch.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DirkFunk on June 08, 2011, 08:22:08 AM
From what i have seen. . . I am not interested.

I'm sick of Zelda, Mario, etc. . . They're always the same with some (usually very minor) tweaks.

I'm sick of gimmicks.

I am also sick of sequels, Call of Duty, Halo, Uncharted, Gears of War etc. . .

Downloadable games seem to offer the most interesting (and fun) experience right now.

The only retail game I am looking forward to is Skyrim (Which, is a sequel).

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: thrush on June 08, 2011, 09:51:08 AM
This is actually kind of what I envisioned a Dreamcast 2 controller would be like.
Exactly my thought on seeing it.

I think it is kind of neat and futurtistic.  I hope the quality of it is nice though.
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It looks like if they do the games right, it will be awesome.
I agree; I think the hardware is very forward-thinking and the design is slick.  But I think the proof will be in the software, and I'm not holding my breath.

Looks pretty rad to me, and I like the name.

It would be great if the controller was something you could take around with you, and it was the new Gameboy.  I already bought the 3DS, but I would be okay if Nintendo decided this was the future in portability instead.

Let's hope the controller does more than a VMU.
Also agreed.  I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the name is alright.  ^^

Overall, I thought all three major players had some interesting things on show (I also liked the looks of the PSV) but I couldn't help feeling underwhelmed by the game lineups that each displayed.  I agree with DragonmasterDan & Keranu: following the money cannot help but lead to a certain level of mediocrity as it necessitates aiming for a low common denominator.

Having said that, I'll admit I'm a little excited by the idea of a Sly 4....
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: jperryss on June 08, 2011, 11:53:48 AM
Quote from: turboStar

Imagine super monkey ball with using the controllers touch pad as a roller ball!


As a Super Monkey Ball fan, I say this with all sincerity and seriousness... that is a HORRIBLE idea!  And one that will likely come to fruition.  Damn you, Sega!  The Gamecube analog stick is the single best way to control Monkey Ball.  It does not need any additional control gimmicks.

The fact that the game was played with literally JUST an analog stick, and was still incredibly fun and very challenging, was a big part of it's charm IMO.

I hated the Wii version and constantly wished I could play it with a GC pad or nunchuck.

On the DS version I settled for the d-pad as I hated it with touchscreen controls.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 08, 2011, 12:09:04 PM
Quote from: jperryss

I hated the Wii version and constantly wished I could play it with a GC pad or nunchuck.


Agreed!  Oh man, I despise that Wii version.  It could have been pretty good with an analog control option.  The 3DS version DOES have the analog control option and it plays pretty well, but it is really, really easy.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: vestcoat on June 08, 2011, 12:54:48 PM
You can call it a gimmick, but Nintendo is just innovating new gaming technology like they've always done.  They did it in 1985 with an robot and a gun; they did it with a running pad, a glove, and a piano; and they did it when they popularized portable gaming with the Game Boy.  The Virtual Boy was a flop, but at least they tried something new.  The N64 thumbstick has problems, but they gave us a passable 3D controller before Playstation.  The Wii nunchuks are OK.  These innovations keep one step ahead of giants like Sony and Microsoft.

The name sucks, but console naming has always been a sign of the times.  Just as words like mega and turbo scream 1989, "Wii U" and "Xbox" will forever be identified with the iPod/iPad era.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: geise on June 08, 2011, 12:57:34 PM
The main idea I like about the system is that if my wife wanted to watch a show while I was playing I can just let her and play the rest on the controller.  I think that's an awesome idea.  Being backwards compatible is an added bonus.  Not sure if it will have GC compatibility.  Like others I don't even want to know what a 2nd controller is going to cost.  Think of how many pc-engine games that could be.  Hell probably a couple MVS games.  I'm actually liking the new console but I keep thinking to myself how many more classic games I can just buy instead.  Personally though I think the controller is really nice.  If I had young kids I will be watching them like crazy if they were using.  I hope they make them pretty damn durable. 

Only money I'll be spending on something new is the PSVita.  wifi of course.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on June 08, 2011, 01:24:19 PM
I am not knocking the idea of Nintendo moving forward with what they have learned with Wii. I expected nothing less from a company that is in the business to continually push forward the boundries of interactive entertainment. It just scares me that they are losing their roots, and forgetting what and who got them here.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on June 08, 2011, 01:39:33 PM
I am not knocking the idea of Nintendo moving forward with what they have learned with Wii. I expected nothing less from a company that is in the business to continually push forward the boundries of interactive entertainment. It just scares me that they are losing their roots, and forgetting what and who got them here.

Or are they actually going BACK to their roots?  Doesn't this new Wii U controller just look like a SNES controller with a big ass screen in the middle?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Keranu on June 08, 2011, 03:16:04 PM
I agree with what Joe said early in the thread too about the controller size. I still don't really know how this whole system is going to work, but I can't imagine playing a long adventure like Zelda with that gigantic controller to be much fun. I'm glad Nintendo has decided to continue using the Wiimote, I thought that was a brilliant design that rarely ever met its potential on the Wii. Maybe now if they start pushing out more Wiimotes with Motion + built in we can finally get some good, innovative motion controlled games on Wii U.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on June 08, 2011, 04:21:03 PM
Well lets hope they listen to the masses and give us multiple controller options.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on June 08, 2011, 04:50:05 PM
as much as I hate to say it, the thing looks fun.  if games like recent Wii titles are whats on it from the get go (lost in shadow, fragile dreams, kirby epic pocketlint, etc), it may bring back the yayness.


Xbox 360 will get Otomedius soon.  Aside from that I could f*cking care less what moronic American money-maker game shows up.

Halo 4: Reacharound
Queers of War 3
Battlefield: Metro-warfare
Call of Duty whatever

its all homosexual.

PS3 has agarest war and catherine

Theres your f*cking art.


Remember when all games were art?

shits going down the tubes fast.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DragonmasterDan on June 09, 2011, 05:58:18 AM
You can call it a gimmick, but Nintendo is just innovating new gaming technology like they've always done.  They did it in 1985 with an robot and a gun; they did it with a running pad, a glove, and a piano; and they did it when they popularized portable gaming with the Game Boy.  The Virtual Boy was a flop, but at least they tried something new.  The N64 thumbstick has problems, but they gave us a passable 3D controller before Playstation.  The Wii nunchuks are OK.  These innovations keep one step ahead of giants like Sony and Microsoft.

The name sucks, but console naming has always been a sign of the times.  Just as words like mega and turbo scream 1989, "Wii U" and "Xbox" will forever be identified with the iPod/iPad era.

You forgot about the D-pad :)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DirkFunk on June 09, 2011, 07:27:37 AM
Word on the street is that the system will only support 1 touch controller. . . It will once again not play DVD or Blu Ray discs (because Nintendo are too cheap to pay licensing fees for it). The screen on the controller needs a sytlus (which is why I dislike the DS).

It's fine if people think it looks cool or whatever, but in the Nintendo tradition, Mario will be Mario with a gimmick that's fun for 5 minutes. Zelda will be Zelda with a gimmick. Not a whole lot changes. I'm over those games. I'm over most shooters. It's all getting very tired.

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DragonmasterDan on June 09, 2011, 10:15:56 AM
It will once again not play DVD or Blu Ray discs (because Nintendo are too cheap to pay licensing fees for it).


I don't think it's a cost issue, Nintendo has always maintained they want their hardware to be a game system and not a set top box multimedia device. If you're buying their system, they want you buying software they make money on from it too, not using it as a multimedia device.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DirkFunk on June 09, 2011, 11:27:47 AM
It will once again not play DVD or Blu Ray discs (because Nintendo are too cheap to pay licensing fees for it).

I don't think it's a cost issue, Nintendo has always maintained they want their hardware to be a game system and not a set top box multimedia device. If you're buying their system, they want you buying software they make money on from it too, not using it as a multimedia device.


I supose. I just think it's stupid.

It does have Netflix, which is a multimedia function.

My Wii is a paperweight. If it played DVDs that would be something. . . Everyone knows it's capable of doing so, so why not?

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DragonmasterDan on June 09, 2011, 12:28:52 PM


I supose. I just think it's stupid.

It does have Netflix, which is a multimedia function.

My Wii is a paperweight. If it played DVDs that would be something. . . Everyone knows it's capable of doing so, so why not?



Yes, but it has Netflix due to Netflix financially compensating Nintendo for subscribers using it on their Wii.

Like I said before, it's capable of doing it but Nintendo wants the primary reason people purchase their hardware to be to buy games (IE things that make Nintendo money). I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo sold a DVD player (or if it has the appropriate optical drive) a Blu-Ray player via their online store for their system. Nintendo has structured their entire business model around a closed system where they reap all the profits and considering the fact that they're still making hardware it's been a good business model for them so far.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: nat on June 09, 2011, 01:28:41 PM
I guess I'm the only one who doesn't think this thing looks half-bad. It's like a Wii on steroids. I think it's funny that everybody cried their eyes out about the Wii's inferior graphical capabilities (lower resolution, lack of true HD), yet here we have the Wii U, which is HD-capable. Everyone just glosses right over that fact. Indeed, some people's only argument against the Wii has been its inferior graphical capabilities and now that that has been addressed, people just find something else to complain about.

Nintendo hardware has always excelled in certain areas while lagging behind (the contemporary competition) in others, it should be no shock to anyone at this point. It's been the norm since the NES days...  With the NES you had a fast CPU and poor graphical hardware. With the SNES you had the slowest CPU of the 16-bit era alongside a comparatively overpowered graphical chipset. With the N64 you had no optical drive, insufficient RAM, the worst controllers in history and...... graphics that were slightly better than the competition. GameCube featured a goofy proprietary disc format and no DVD playback support, and the Wii.... Inferior graphics, with a focus on revolutionizing how people play video games.

I agree (for the first time in history) with Keranu when he says the Wiimote has yet to realize its full potential. I think the concept is fantastic, and yet continues to go underutilized. I think more people tend to side with people like Mathius who prefer more traditional controls and as a result developers haven't really explored all the possibilities with the Wiimote. The biggest problem with the Wii as it is now isn't the graphics or anything alone those lines, it's the fact that since the Wii is so easy to develop for there is just tons and tons of shovelware available for it. Shovelware tends to not make very good use of the hardware and be not very good in general, which reflects poorly on the platform.

Back to the U, I think the name is awful, but the thing looks like a decent concept. Depending on reliability of this touchscreen controller, I may even end up trading in the Wii for one of these if it's retaining backwards compatibility.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DirkFunk on June 09, 2011, 02:15:48 PM


I supose. I just think it's stupid.

It does have Netflix, which is a multimedia function.

My Wii is a paperweight. If it played DVDs that would be something. . . Everyone knows it's capable of doing so, so why not?



Yes, but it has Netflix due to Netflix financially compensating Nintendo for subscribers using it on their Wii.

Like I said before, it's capable of doing it but Nintendo wants the primary reason people purchase their hardware to be to buy games (IE things that make Nintendo money). I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo sold a DVD player (or if it has the appropriate optical drive) a Blu-Ray player via their online store for their system. Nintendo has structured their entire business model around a closed system where they reap all the profits and considering the fact that they're still making hardware it's been a good business model for them so far.

As much as I piss and moan about these things. . . I'll probably still buy one. . .
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Black Tiger on June 09, 2011, 02:47:21 PM
I guess I'm the only one who doesn't think this thing looks half-bad. It's like a Wii on steroids. I think it's funny that everybody cried their eyes out about the Wii's inferior graphical capabilities (lower resolution, lack of true HD), yet here we have the Wii U, which is HD-capable. Everyone just glosses right over that fact. Indeed, some people's only argument against the Wii has been its inferior graphical capabilities and now that that has been addressed, people just find something else to complain about.


The Wii's generation-behind graphics haven't been addressed, Nintendo has instead entered a new generation with last generation graphics. Again.

The 360 and PS3 getting motion controls addresses and surpasses the Wii's only strength in comparison. The equivalent for the Wii would be if the Wii U was a $50 plug-in with optional tablet pads for the current system.

At least this time it isn't essentially the exact same Nintendo hardware as the previous generation and instead looks more like the competition's last gen hardware. The Wii was hard to swallow as an entire console purchase instead of as a Gamecube sensor bar/remote. Sony and Microsoft did exactly that instead of working over their customers who supported them the previous generation. If you take that Wii U tablet-pad and plug it into the PS3 or 360, the competition already has Nintendo beat with the exact same level of hardware, only with more features, including the most important one of all going forward: proper online game support.

Considering that Sony and Microsoft finally learned that it was worthwhile to neutralize Nintendo by selling a similar gimmick as an add-on, they're probably both already designing superior tablet-pads that could be out by the time the Wii U launches. Imagine how cheap the PS3 and 360 motion bundles will be by then? They could both have tablet-pad bundles on shelves the day the Wii U launches, only at a lower price.


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Nintendo hardware has always excelled in certain areas while lagging behind (the contemporary competition) in others, it should be no shock to anyone at this point. It's been the norm since the NES days...  With the NES you had a fast CPU and poor graphical hardware. With the SNES you had the slowest CPU of the 16-bit era alongside a comparatively overpowered graphical chipset. With the N64 you had no optical drive, insufficient RAM, the worst controllers in history and...... graphics that were slightly better than the competition. GameCube featured a goofy proprietary disc format and no DVD playback support, and the Wii.... Inferior graphics, with a focus on revolutionizing how people play video games.


Take any of those consoles before the Wii and insert the previous gen's Nintendo hardware inside. A top loader NES with "Super Nintendo" written on it is not the same as the SNES we actually got having a slow cpu.


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I agree (for the first time in history) with Keranu when he says the Wiimote has yet to realize its full potential. I think the concept is fantastic, and yet continues to go underutilized. I think more people tend to side with people like Mathius who prefer more traditional controls and as a result developers haven't really explored all the possibilities with the Wiimote. The biggest problem with the Wii as it is now isn't the graphics or anything alone those lines, it's the fact that since the Wii is so easy to develop for there is just tons and tons of shovelware available for it. Shovelware tends to not make very good use of the hardware and be not very good in general, which reflects poorly on the platform.


I totally agree. I think that console companies should never have bothered releasing motion controls, or any other gimmicks, without first figuring out how to utilize it enough with software. The Power Glove, Activator, U-Force, etc could have all been fantastic with fantastic dedicated software. Instead, like too many of the better Wii games, they only offered inferior ways of controlling traditional games. The biggest and easiest way to transform the Wii into being worthwhile is to make regular controller support mandatory, while keeping the option for arm flailing controls.


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Back to the U, I think the name is awful, but the thing looks like a decent concept. Depending on reliability of this touchscreen controller, I may even end up trading in the Wii for one of these if it's retaining backwards compatibility.


The Wii name was bad enough, but this isn't much worse, only boring and not differentiating enough. I also hate "Vita". Hopefully the PS4 and Xbox 720 keep their naming patterns.

Even if I never get into what ever is current "gaming" at any given time again, I'll probably continue to buy each new console. Although I have yet to make use of my PS3 as a PS3 game player. I like the look of the Wii U much more than the Wii. It looks like the bare bones, plastic door Arcade 360 and more like a real console.

I can't get worked up over current gen video games anymore and it's not really a big deal to me. It just sucks that Nintendo's last ditch attempt to regain hardcore players is a further step in the opposite direction. It is however much better than I expected. :P

It seems like a terrible business decision overall, but then so did the DS, Wii and 3DS... so who knows anymore. We're living in an age when people drop billions on essentially renting Apple products and software.

It really smacks of a board room meeting a week ago where an executive said "Hey, iPads are popular with young people, lets stick one (without the computer inside) on a pad and call it a day!" And they just showed up at E3 with a tablet taped into a hollowed out Gamecube keyboard controller (http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/gckb.jpg) and alternated between it syncing up to a Wii and a 360 behind the curtain.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on June 09, 2011, 04:13:34 PM
I guess I'm the only one who doesn't think this thing looks half-bad.

i think it looks good too@!!!!!!!!!2we4434
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Tatsujin on June 09, 2011, 04:19:47 PM
lol, the Wii-U inspiration:

(http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3527/sifuf1mn2.jpg)

a selfmade NGC handheld :lol:
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: roflmao on June 09, 2011, 04:27:01 PM
Wow, no kidding!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: unclebugspayton on June 10, 2011, 07:53:59 AM
Whats going to happen when you drop the "controller"?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 10, 2011, 08:18:19 AM
What is NGC?  Neo Geo Color?  Oooooo you mean Game Cube! Congrats on not saying GCN.  I hate GCN!  Love the GameCube, though.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on June 10, 2011, 08:41:08 AM
Considering that Sony and Microsoft finally learned that it was worthwhile to neutralize Nintendo by selling a similar gimmick as an add-on, they're probably both already designing superior tablet-pads that could be out by the time the Wii U launches. Imagine how cheap the PS3 and 360 motion bundles will be by then? They could both have tablet-pad bundles on shelves the day the Wii U launches, only at a lower price.

Your on crack if you think this has at all neutralized Nintendo's otherwise cornering of the motion sensored video game market.  Does anyone actually own a Sony Move or Microsoft Kinnect?  I would guess probably better chances of people owning the kinnect as its outselling the Move thing 5 to 1.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DirkFunk on June 10, 2011, 08:56:22 AM


Your on crack if you think this has at all neutralized Nintendo's otherwise cornering of the motion sensored video game market.  Does anyone actually own a Sony Move or Microsoft Kinnect?  I would guess probably better chances of people owning the kinnect as its outselling the Move thing 5 to 1.

I had the Move. . . until I got Killzone 3, realized it sucked with (and without) Move. Huge mistake buying that thing.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Black Tiger on June 10, 2011, 06:15:49 PM
Considering that Sony and Microsoft finally learned that it was worthwhile to neutralize Nintendo by selling a similar gimmick as an add-on, they're probably both already designing superior tablet-pads that could be out by the time the Wii U launches. Imagine how cheap the PS3 and 360 motion bundles will be by then? They could both have tablet-pad bundles on shelves the day the Wii U launches, only at a lower price.

Your on crack if you think this has at all neutralized Nintendo's otherwise cornering of the motion sensored video game market.  Does anyone actually own a Sony Move or Microsoft Kinnect?  I would guess probably better chances of people owning the kinnect as its outselling the Move thing 5 to 1.

I'm not saying that either the Kinect or Move are outselling Wii consoles, but the Wii offers nothing that the other consoles don't do better now and it lacks proper online play, which is critical today. The Wii's sales have been plummeting for a while now, but I think that it likely has more more to do with the novelty of motion controls wearing off than people flocking to the competition's motion control alternatives.

At least when the Wii launched, it had a single unique gimmick to justify it's existence. The Wii U is another last-gen-as-next-gen product, but it's only distinguishing feature is now a clunky stripped down version of what everyone packs around in their pocket. I think that the Wii U would have gone over much better if Nintendo had it's own version of Xbox Live up and running to show off for both the Wii U and 3DS, which appeared to offer even more, only for free.

If Nintendo is going to offer less than the competition when it comes to hardware, then they need to justify their platform with software. They should've waited until they had a PS3/360 quality new Mario game to show off with the new hardware, instead of footage of Wii, PS3 and 360 games.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Keranu on June 10, 2011, 08:13:20 PM
What is NGC?  Neo Geo Color?  Oooooo you mean Game Cube! Congrats on not saying GCN.  I hate GCN!  Love the GameCube, though.
You beat me to it! I haaaaaaaate GCN! Not a fan of PSX either.

Quote from: Black_Tiger
I'm not saying that either the Kinect or Move are outselling Wii consoles, but the Wii offers nothing that the other consoles don't do better now and it lacks proper online play, which is critical today. The Wii's sales have been plummeting for a while now, but I think that it likely has more more to do with the novelty of motion controls wearing off than people flocking to the competition's motion control alternatives.
Those other consoles wouldn't have added motion control in the first place if it wasn't for Nintendo taking the risk of designing a motion controlled console to begin with. Upgraded graphics are to be expected for new generations, I would like to see the other guys (and Nintendo again) at least try to think outside the box; you have to take risks to innovate. Personally, I think the Kinect and Move was Microsoft and Sony's way of testing the waters for motion controls before designing a full-fleged motion control system for the next gen.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Black Tiger on June 16, 2011, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Black_Tiger
I'm not saying that either the Kinect or Move are outselling Wii consoles, but the Wii offers nothing that the other consoles don't do better now and it lacks proper online play, which is critical today. The Wii's sales have been plummeting for a while now, but I think that it likely has more more to do with the novelty of motion controls wearing off than people flocking to the competition's motion control alternatives.
Those other consoles wouldn't have added motion control in the first place if it wasn't for Nintendo taking the risk of designing a motion controlled console to begin with. Upgraded graphics are to be expected for new generations, I would like to see the other guys (and Nintendo again) at least try to think outside the box; you have to take risks to innovate. Personally, I think the Kinect and Move was Microsoft and Sony's way of testing the waters for motion controls before designing a full-fleged motion control system for the next gen.

I agree and the Wii at least offered something original. The Wii U doesn't add much that either appears to be positive for gameplay or that Nintendo knows what to do with. We're still waiting for the revolutionary motion control games. They got away with it for the Wii, because Sony and Microsoft waited so long to get serious about motion controls. It helped that the Wii wasn't revealed before the competition. It sounds like the Vita is already set to offer everything the Wii U has shown to do, when used with a PS3. Only with all the more possible possibilities. It is simple enough for Microsoft to offer a tablet pad for the 360.

Those are examples of how little the Wii U has to differentiate itself from the generation before it. Chances are that the next gen consoles from Sony and Microsoft will offer everything that the current gen and Wii U do out of the box, plus some other unique things.

I'm actually disappointed at how un-innovative the Wii U is. But in the end all that matters is the games. If the Wii U offers the option of real or gimmick controls for every game and it gets killer exclusive software, then it'll be great and do well. I miss the times when Nintendo made good games that were only complimented by hardware gimmicks, instead of based around them. Imagine if most NES games had you waiting for R.O.B. to keep up or required Zapper only control like Gumshoe or every Famicom game was 75% microphone controlled?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Keranu on June 16, 2011, 12:26:11 PM
Yeah I basically agree with all that you said. Like I mentioned earlier, the Wii U to me feels like everything Nintendo has done for the past six years rolled into one. I was rather surprised (and disappointed) because I was really hoping Nintendo was going to reveal something so insanely unconceivable this year. So I'm just going to have to hope the software really takes off this time around and not turn into Wii 2.0. I think the Wii with Motion + does offer real motion gaming hardware, but developers have rarely taken much advantage with it so far. Gaming desperately needs an era of original titles again.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 16, 2011, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: Black Tiger

It helped that the Wii wasn't revealed before the competition.


But it was!  It was shown before the PS3 was released.  People went apeshit and took to the streets screaming at the top of their lungs "OMG I love Nintendo!!!  They are geniuses!!!  I have always wanted to play games by waving my arms around like a retarded chimpanzee!!!  TAKE MY MONEY!!!!"  Sony saw this and crammed "sixaxis" into the PS3 controller.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Keranu on June 17, 2011, 05:18:09 AM
I thought it was pathetic how shamelessly Sony and Microsoft ripped off Wii's promotional marketing for the Move and Kinect, as if they weren't even attempting to not look like knock-offs It was also bad when Microsoft flat out ripped off the Mii's; at least PS3 took a different approach with Home.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Necromancer on September 14, 2011, 06:47:04 AM
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Nintendo-Wii-Wii-U-Problems-Delay-Development,news-12486.html

Not exactly good news for the U, though there's lots of time left before they go on sale; I'm sure Nintendo can iron out the kinks before shipping, so hopefully this won't hamper development of third party games too much.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: bartre on September 14, 2011, 07:41:59 AM
lol, the Wii-U inspiration:

(http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3527/sifuf1mn2.jpg)

a selfmade NGC handheld :lol:

actually, that's a 64 handheld.
the joystick is off of one of those hori gamecube style controllers, and i've seen plenty of mods to put a C-stick on the n64
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mishran on September 14, 2011, 11:08:05 PM
Unimpressive. Nothing can beat the retro classics. When gameplay really mattered! Most of the time. Some of the time? Occasionally? 8-[
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SMF on September 23, 2011, 11:26:19 AM
it all come down to this, what are video games gonna be like in 10 years? I mean how much better can a system make a game be real before people get bored and want somthing new. Nintendos been around because they think outside the box, Always have. People say they want badass graphics but look at how well Mega Man 9 sold. The one thing Nintendo has that Sony and Xbox never will are Killer first party games. Yea Halo, Gears, God of war, Resistance. Nintendo have Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Sta Fox Pokemon, Pikman I mean Hell Donkey Kong, Kirby. Its no secret Sony and Xbox want Nintendos 1st party games on there systems. That's why Nintendo will still be hanging around. People will buy the New Nintendo even if they bad mouth it. If only to play Mario, Zelda, Metroid. It all comes down to what games are gonna be at launch when Wii U gets released.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on September 26, 2011, 07:58:11 AM
Your on crack if you think this has at all neutralized Nintendo's otherwise cornering of the motion sensored video game market.  Does anyone actually own a Sony Move or Microsoft Kinnect?  I would guess probably better chances of people owning the kinnect as its outselling the Move thing 5 to 1.

Of course noone owns those things.  They're optional.  Kind of like how flailing like a tool with the Wii should have been optional.

It only took what 3 years for companies to stop making games that force you to move you arms?

Metroid Prime 3 is the best example of why the Wii mote is stupid.

Wherever your arm aims is where you look.  its also where you shoot. 

So, Samus has a cannon strapped to her face.

Immersion.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DragonmasterDan on September 26, 2011, 08:18:28 AM
Your on crack if you think this has at all neutralized Nintendo's otherwise cornering of the motion sensored video game market.  Does anyone actually own a Sony Move or Microsoft Kinnect?  I would guess probably better chances of people owning the kinnect as its outselling the Move thing 5 to 1.

Of course noone owns those things.  They're optional.  Kind of like how flailing like a tool with the Wii should have been optional.

It only took what 3 years for companies to stop making games that force you to move you arms?

Metroid Prime 3 is the best example of why the Wii mote is stupid.

Wherever your arm aims is where you look.  its also where you shoot. 

So, Samus has a cannon strapped to her face.

Immersion.

I can't be the only one who set that game to play with lock-on like the other Metroid Prime games.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on September 26, 2011, 08:36:14 AM
Lock on? Thats for sissies.  I wanted real immersion!

It also sucks if you don't point your arm straight at the screen you look at the floor/ceiling. 
Samus can put her arms down.  Why cant I?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DragonmasterDan on September 26, 2011, 08:46:22 AM
Lock on? Thats for sissies.  I wanted real immersion!



I wanted it to play like the first two :P
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on September 26, 2011, 09:01:37 AM
Lock on? Thats for sissies.  I wanted real immersion!



I wanted it to play like the first two :P

I wanted it to play like Super metroid. :(
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Trevpwnsnoobs on October 01, 2011, 03:47:03 AM
Im interested in the Wii U, but i cant really state an opinion on it until i actually play it, all i can say is i hope the best for nintendo.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: thrush on October 03, 2011, 11:57:59 AM
Im interested in the Wii U, but i cant really state an opinion on it until i actually play it, all i can say is i hope the best for nintendo.
I totally agree.  Anything can look good or bad on paper/in the press: it's only once it's out, and out for a while, that we'll really be able to evaluate it.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Necromancer on December 06, 2011, 11:50:26 AM
A little more info. on possible specs: link (http://www.tomsguide.com/us/nintendo-wii-u-wii-xbox-360-ps3,news-13401.html)

Not too impressive, as the CPU and memory are only a small step above the 360 (tricore 3.2ghz power pc and 512MB).  The GPU is more important anyway, and they're not tipping their hand to its specs yet.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on December 07, 2011, 02:46:26 AM
All I got out of this article was

"As we Wii U Daily mentions"

Wee weeeeeeeee
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: geise on December 08, 2011, 01:05:37 AM
We're on a classic gaming forum and we're worried about system specs for making games fun to play?  :-k
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on December 08, 2011, 01:15:31 AM
We're on a classic gaming forum and we're worried about system specs for making games fun to play?  :-k

The reason for that is that even pretty crappy pixel art looks ok and don't ruin a game if the gameplay is solid.

Crappy polygons/models/3D environments on the other hand.....

Plus if they don't kick the specs up to something reasonably current, we're going to be paying todays prices for yesterdays specs, augmented by stupid controller gimmicks, as usual.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: geise on December 08, 2011, 01:33:06 AM
Maybe they don't want to go crazy on the specs to keep prices down?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on December 08, 2011, 01:44:56 AM
then we are basically paying for a gimmick controller, that will probably disappoint for 3 years until someone finally puts a useful game on it.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Necromancer on December 08, 2011, 04:00:59 AM
We're on a classic gaming forum and we're worried about system specs for making games fun to play?  :-k

Last time I checked better visuals, more accurate physics, and better AI do make games more fun to play.  If none of that stuff mattered, then what exactly is the point of the Wii U or Wii for that matter?  The only things they add to game play are the controllers, which could've just been added to the GameCube.

Besides, I just said the specs were unimpressive; it'll all come down to the GPU.  I haven't seen anything recent on the GPU, but it's been rumored to be based on the Radeon 4000 series cards, which'll be three generations old by then.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on December 08, 2011, 04:32:12 AM
We're on a classic gaming forum and we're worried about system specs for making games fun to play?  :-k

Last time I checked better visuals, more accurate physics, and better AI do make games more fun to play.  If none of that stuff mattered, then what exactly is the point of the Wii U or Wii for that matter?  The only things they add to game play are the controllers, which could've just been added to the GameCube.

Besides, I just said the specs were unimpressive; it'll all come down to the GPU.  I haven't seen anything recent on the GPU, but it's been rumored to be based on the Radeon 4000 series cards, which'll be three generations old by then.

Nintendo always releases crap thats basically dated.

Somehow, enough tards go googoo gaagaaaaadurhhrrr over it and shell out the cash.

I am one of those people.

Then I play it and go GODDAMNIT and play PCE because it never makes me angry.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: nectarsis on April 05, 2012, 04:20:13 AM
via: http://www.the-magicbox.com/

RUMOR: Nintendo has tentatively set the launch date of Wii U on November 18 in North America and November 25 in Japan, according to a memo from Japanese retailer Media Land.


RUMOR:  GamesIndustry reported that a number of anonymous developers said that Wii U does not have the graphical horsepower to compete with current generation console Xbox 360 and PS3, despite being able to output video in HD format. One reason is that Wii U doesn't have as many shaders, it is not as capable, overall it can't quite keep up to the same level as PS3 or 360. Another concern is that only one tablet controller can be active and it must be within certain distance to the console, which means multiple players on the same console must use non-tablet controller and leading to different experience. Another developer suggests that PS3 and PS Vita can do what the Wii U and tablet controller can do already.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on April 05, 2012, 04:24:13 AM
sick burn.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DragonmasterDan on April 05, 2012, 04:44:47 AM

Last time I checked better visuals, more accurate physics, and better AI do make games more fun to play.  If none of that stuff mattered, then what exactly is the point of the Wii U or Wii for that matter?  The only things they add to game play are the controllers, which could've just been added to the GameCube.


Better visuals, more accurate physics and better AI give you more options to design better games. But those things don't necessarily make games more fun to play, they simply give you greater opportunities to design better games. Having more colors and a larger canvas gives a painter a greater opportunity to create a better painting, but those things alone don't make the art more beautiful.

In any event, from what I'm reading we don't know if it will be more or less powerful than the Xbox 360 or PS3.
http://kotaku.com/5899125/nobody-knows-how-powerful-the-wii-u-actually-is
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on April 05, 2012, 04:51:30 AM
It's a Kotaku link, therefore its worthless to click on and read!

Power is important for better games.  If it weren't we'd all be playing really f*cking fun Atari 2600 games w/ really "innovative" controllers.

Controller gimmicks are a poor substitute for next-gen technology.  

The things going to be a wimpy console like the Wii.  It's behind the curve and riding on its gimmicks and hipster trendiness to get by.  The really great games for it won't come out for like, 2-3 years after it launches (like the Wii!)

If this system weren't from Nintendo, and were coming from someone else (Sega?) it would probably get laughed out of town.

It'll do well like everything else from Nintendo, but still be lackluster when stuck next to an Xbox 720, or a PS4.  

Nintendo's a bit like the socially retarded kid that starts wearing the latest fashion trend AFTER it's out of style.

It's 2012 and Nintendo just put on a pair of JNCO jeans for the first time.  Basically.

What I find funny too is alot of the games on Wii that I really like, could've been released on Playstation 1 almost, or even PS2.  They don't visually impress me much.  They're fun at least.

Muramasa is pretty.  It could've been done on a PS2 though.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: guyjin on April 07, 2012, 06:46:42 AM
What I find funny too is alot of the games on Wii that I really like, could've been released on Playstation 1 almost, or even PS2.  They don't visually impress me much.  They're fun at least.

I think you're viewing the PS2's abilities through nostalgia-colored glasses. It probably doesn't help that in some cheap ports, graphics were taken directly from the PS2 version of a game.

it also doesn't help that Wii games tend to use deceptively simple graphics. Consider the Mii heads: simple, right? Not really. Rendering a teardrop shape takes lots and lots of polygons, and putting animated textures on it is even more complicated. and there are multiple such shapes it has to render.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on April 10, 2012, 08:37:20 PM
Quote

Besides, I just said the specs were unimpressive; it'll all come down to the GPU.  I haven't seen anything recent on the GPU, but it's been rumored to be based on the Radeon 4000 series cards, which'll be three generations old by then.

I so very much wish that Wii U's custom GPU was *based* on the RV770 aka Radeon HD 4870/4850.  That would provide 1 ~ 1.2 TeraFLops of shader performance which would be 4-5x that of the Xbox 360's Xenos GPU.  

Sadly, it seems that Nintendo is going for a much lower-end GPU within the Radeon 4000 family, based on all the recent reports.

Still, the Zelda and Bird demos showed that Wii U can put up decent current-gen (360/PS3) graphics with perhaps better lighting.

In the end, of course, it all comes down to the software/games and services/apps that Nintendo and 3rd parties will provide the Wii U.

I cannot freaking wait until E3  ^__^
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SMF on April 18, 2012, 10:37:05 AM
Hell as far as I'm concerned wii u is a must have just for Pikman 3.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on April 19, 2012, 05:11:06 PM
I want to see Mario in HD, other than on a Dolphin that is ;)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TR0N on September 13, 2012, 07:13:58 PM
The wii u has a release date and price to.
http://www.money.cnn.com/2012/09/13/technology/wii-u-price-release-date

Hmmm man i want to pass up on this console up but it's getting monster hunter 3 ultimate,i don't know but i know i won't get it at it's release.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SMF on September 13, 2012, 07:44:35 PM
I couldnt pass it up, Im pumped got my preorder in at BestBuy and ready to pick it up in store November 18th.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TR0N on September 13, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
I couldnt pass it up, Im pumped got my preorder in at BestBuy and ready to pick it up in store November 18th.
I heard it's getting bayonetta 2 as well another reason why,i hate to pass up the wii u since it will be exclusive to the console.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Digi.k on September 13, 2012, 09:17:08 PM
Yup I will most likely jump on.. I am like 5 years late on the wii train but I got one in the end and even with the dated graphics the games still draw me in..

With that Wii U controller I am confused to whether I should buy a 3DS XL or not now as the wii U controller itself looks like a portable gaming device..  and I want a 3DS XL just because I love animal crossing.

it does bring back memories of Sega's dreamcast and the VMU units
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on September 14, 2012, 02:20:04 AM
TIME TO GO BUY A SUPAH INEXPENSIVE WII!!! WOOOHOO!!! Can't wait to try some GC games too ;)

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on September 14, 2012, 02:59:10 AM
Im so preordoerereorerieng one.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on September 14, 2012, 03:06:41 AM
Preordered mine yesterday morning.

I think between WiiU and Steam's Big Picture, my next generation is set.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on September 14, 2012, 03:10:41 AM
mine too.

I just got some new import Genesis/SFC games in anticipation of the giant letdowns
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DejahThoris on September 14, 2012, 03:26:59 AM
Bayonetta 2's announcement made me pre-order one.  I can't imagine it'll be a release title, but after my experience trying to find a 360 right after its launch I've learned to just pre-order if I have any desire to own the console at all.

2 32GB consoles on pre-order, one through Best Buy and one through Gamestop.  Had to abandon Toys r Us as my normal go-to as their expected arrival date was "by 12/31/12".  One console for myself, and one goes off to eBay to pay for both.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on September 14, 2012, 03:36:56 AM
mine too.

I just got some new import Genesis/SFC games in anticipation of the giant letdowns

LMAO!!! which games? ;)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on September 14, 2012, 03:45:08 AM
Arrow Flash, Sailor Moon R (lol), SEIKEN DENSETSU 2 FOR 2 DOLLARS, and a few others.

I'm going to get some more PCE games soon too probably.

and I have some Famicom games I am going to grab (Holy Diver, Arabian Dream Shehzrehaehraheraozoozozozoodo)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on September 14, 2012, 04:23:39 AM
Arrow Flash, Sailor Moon R (lol), SEIKEN DENSETSU 2 FOR 2 DOLLARS, and a few others.

I'm going to get some more PCE games soon too probably.

and I have some Famicom games I am going to grab (Holy Diver, Arabian Dream Shehzrehaehraheraozoozozozoodo)

Damn, picked them up from someone or what? that's super inexpensive. How's the Sailor Moon brawler?


I remember picking up Arro Flash hoping it was something like Side Arms :D oh the young mind


As always the new Mario looks awesome. Can't wait to see their franchises again in HD  ;)

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on September 14, 2012, 04:43:56 AM
I found R and SD2 in a local shop, and got Arrow Flash from someone here.

I stopped liking Mario after SM RPG on SNES.  Those gamecube ones sucked and mario galaxy as bullshit
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on September 14, 2012, 05:59:35 AM
I pre ordered mine yesterday. Im excited. i got the Wii on day one as well, and i love the console. Plus that bayonetta 2. Thanks Nintendo for saving that franchise
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SMF on September 14, 2012, 12:51:41 PM
Yes I agree if Nintendo didn't save it then it would have just died off. I like how fanboys are upset that its a Nintendo exclusive. Besides this forum I have yet to hear somene say THANK YOU NINTENDO FOR SAVING BAYONETTA 2 FROM THE DUMPS.

In this day and age I'm a fan of a lot of game, I only have a PS3 for the God of War games, I deff play my 360 and Wii more.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on September 14, 2012, 01:33:46 PM
Arrow Flash, Sailor Moon R (lol), SEIKEN DENSETSU 2 FOR 2 DOLLARS, and a few others.

I'm going to get some more PCE games soon too probably.

and I have some Famicom games I am going to grab (Holy Diver, Arabian Dream Shehzrehaehraheraozoozozozoodo)

Damn, picked them up from someone or what? that's super inexpensive. How's the Sailor Moon brawler?


I remember picking up Arro Flash hoping it was something like Side Arms :D oh the young mind


As always the new Mario looks awesome. Can't wait to see their franchises again in HD  ;)



Mario is really the only thing interesting to me so far on the Wii U.  Though, I may also want to get Transformers Prime, assuming it'll be a decent game in the first place.  Either way, I don't have any reason to run to get a Wii U just yet.  Maybe after a price drop, & some game series that I'd kill for, like Ys, Suikoden, or Lunar.  Any of those would get me to buy one now!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on September 14, 2012, 01:36:32 PM
I am definitely getting a WiiU, after skipping the last two generations. I'm not even interested in any if the announced games, I'm just geeked about the tablet controller.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: geise on September 14, 2012, 02:13:34 PM
Man Ark, nice on the Arrow Flash.  f*ck everyone else.  I like that game.  Always will.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on September 14, 2012, 06:06:38 PM
I might pre-order one if Amazon gets them, otherwise I can wait.  There's no must have games at launch.  Might wait for a price drop as it costs just as much as a brand new system.  See what I did there?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DejahThoris on September 15, 2012, 08:04:37 AM
I might pre-order one if Amazon gets them, otherwise I can wait.  There's no must have games at launch.  Might wait for a price drop as it costs just as much as a brand new system.  See what I did there?

Amazon USA and Nintendo USA aren't on dealing terms, you'll only find Nintendo consoles through merchants and not sold by Amazon themselves.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Bernie on September 15, 2012, 08:06:50 AM
I might pre-order one if Amazon gets them, otherwise I can wait.  There's no must have games at launch.  Might wait for a price drop as it costs just as much as a brand new system.  See what I did there?
Im with you on that. 
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: RegalSin on September 15, 2012, 09:59:44 AM
If anybody here buys a brand new Wii U, you are part of the problem. In fact I hope somebody buys a whole bunch of them and breaks them on camera.

I was thinking about the Wii, Just thinking about the games on it, seriously blehhh.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: MotherGunner on September 15, 2012, 10:11:30 AM
The controller is super nice in your hands.  I found it to be light and comfortable though I have only handled the prototype (which looks exactly like the final product controller-wise).  Since my company is making games for it, I plan to pick one up!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: MotherGunner on September 15, 2012, 10:12:50 AM
Double-post deleted.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Burnt Lasagna on September 15, 2012, 11:03:54 AM
If anybody here buys a brand new Wii U, you are part of the problem. In fact I hope somebody buys a whole bunch of them and breaks them on camera.
So don't buy one Wii U, Buy whole bunch and then brake them all?
I sense some circular logic here.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on September 15, 2012, 12:18:27 PM
I preordered after playing one at Fan Expo in Toronto a few weeks ago, it was fun and the price is right.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: RegalSin on September 15, 2012, 02:49:31 PM
So don't buy one Wii U, Buy whole bunch and then brake them all?
I sense some circular logic here.

I think  one of those broken Wii, sold for like $463? Do a public demonstration, and show people how you reall feel about Nintendo. We could stand in line for the piece of rubbish, and then saw it in a safety box, in front of the line, and dip it in oil and put it out with a nice goood loog
leak/pssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Quote
Since my company is making games for it, I plan to pick one up!

Corperate sellout...Your opinion does not count, when your the seller/maker of a product.
Their are tons of no condom wearing parents who will buy a Wii U fo rtheir kids and they will
be like zomgsh, Nintendo our god, on Christmas day.

how about just getting one from your office or something?
The number one rule of work is to never give your money back to your boss.
This means rent, food, and gas. With videogames this mean no WeedU fo you.


...........................................

If y ou a buy a Wii u, I will put my foot in my mouth. Come on............................... Reallyy??
Have we not learned the lesson of money?

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: MotherGunner on September 15, 2012, 06:45:55 PM


Quote
Since my company is making games for it, I plan to pick one up!


Corperate sellout...Your opinion does not count, when your the seller/maker of a product.
Their are tons of no condom wearing parents who will buy a Wii U fo rtheir kids and they will
be like zomgsh, Nintendo our god, on Christmas day.

how about just getting one from your office or something?
The number one rule of work is to never give your money back to your boss.
This means rent, food, and gas. With videogames this mean no WeedU fo you.


...........................................

If y ou a buy a Wii u, I will put my foot in my mouth. Come on............................... Reallyy??
Have we not learned the lesson of money?







It's CORPORATE, you PEDO!  And in addition to KIDS, funny how you mention condoms.  Have you ever been in a position where you NEED one in a first place?  (*Psst* Someone is a virgin, needs to get laid, and needs to lighten up*) :-"

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/Miaka_Tanaka/Edited/LOLOLOL.gif)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Digi.k on September 15, 2012, 09:19:15 PM
think I am gonna go with the basic edition since I want my wii U to match the wii case
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DejahThoris on September 16, 2012, 12:44:52 AM
think I am gonna go with the basic edition since I want my wii U to match the wii case

I was a tad bummed that there isn't a white deluxe edition.  I already have a slew of black systems, outside of my Wii (red) and my SNES they're all black.  There's just far too many additions to the deluxe version for just $50 more for me to feel I made a good decision passing it up just over the color of the system.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: esteban on September 16, 2012, 12:45:19 AM
If Data East is resurrected and Karnov is upgraded with brilliant new 2D artwork for the Wii U, then...

HELL YES I'LL GET Wii U.

Otherwise, I'll wait until the price drops. I don't mind buying "old" software and hardware a year or three from now.

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: RegalSin on September 16, 2012, 01:08:55 AM


I don't really care. All I know s that I live in a nation where it is wrong to be straight, and the rainbow is not cool.

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Lilgrafx on September 16, 2012, 03:46:28 PM
Just pre-ordered a Wii U, Pikman 3, Raymond Legends, and Zombi U. I'm really excited!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Digi.k on September 16, 2012, 10:16:34 PM
If Data East is resurrected and Karnov is upgraded with brilliant new 2D artwork for the Wii U, then...

HELL YES I'LL GET Wii U.

Otherwise, I'll wait until the price drops. I don't mind buying "old" software and hardware a year or three from now.



hah! well I am kinda 6 years late on the wii train.  Hopefully I can grab a 3DS XL next year too and as for the next xbox that can wait a few years after it's initial release before I pick one up.

hmmm I hope we get a proper earthbound/mother release this gen Nintendo!!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on September 17, 2012, 02:22:37 AM
http://kotaku.com/5943529/nintendo-doesnt-think-your-wii-u-will-collect-dus

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on September 17, 2012, 03:12:05 AM
Dammit RegalSin, how did you get off of my "Ignore" list? Time to fix that...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: esteban on September 17, 2012, 05:16:07 PM
If Data East is resurrected and Karnov is upgraded with brilliant new 2D artwork for the Wii U, then...

HELL YES I'LL GET Wii U.

Otherwise, I'll wait until the price drops. I don't mind buying "old" software and hardware a year or three from now.



hah! well I am kinda 6 years late on the wii train.  Hopefully I can grab a 3DS XL next year too and as for the next xbox that can wait a few years after it's initial release before I pick one up.

hmmm I hope we get a proper earthbound/mother release this gen Nintendo!!

I noticed you were picking up a bunch of software for the Wii. I still need to grab some titles while they are available and cheap. I have repeatedly made the mistake of not grabbing stuff for Xbox, PS, PS2 when it is cheap. Then, years later, some of these titles are too much $$$ for my wallet.

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Digi.k on September 18, 2012, 02:56:17 AM
I noticed you were picking up a bunch of software for the Wii. I still need to grab some titles while they are available and cheap. I have repeatedly made the mistake of not grabbing stuff for Xbox, PS, PS2 when it is cheap. Then, years later, some of these titles are too much $$$ for my wallet.




I'm trying not to predict what will go up and down in value..  I did own psychic killer taromaru (or Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru) for the saturn years ago but I was sooo scared to take it out and play because of its value and in the end I thought it was silly how I was treating the game so I sold it on ebay and made more than my money back...

although having said that there are certainly some great wii stuff to collect here in the UK..

these two have gone up in price...and I don't know if anywhere else in the world has these bundle. But I am definitely going to hunt the zelda skyward sword pack down..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Legend-Zelda-Skyward-Limited-Remote/dp/B005KJLAOQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1347976646&sr=1-2


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Monster-Hunter-Classic-Controller-Limited/dp/B0037CJYVY/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1347976710&sr=1-3-fkmr0


I got this one about £10 cheaper than the brand new price here about 2-3 weeks ago..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Last-Story-Limited-Wii/dp/B006VVGFOW/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1347976838&sr=1-2

and I may pick this one up too
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xenoblade-Chronicles-Classic-Controller-Wii/dp/B0058NLQZW/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1347976921&sr=1-3
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Digi.k on September 18, 2012, 03:03:59 AM
I have no idea what is collectable in the US or JPN territories...but I do intend on playing all my wii games

I got a feeling some of the anime games such as one piece and bleach may become collectible.. but what the hell do I know...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on September 18, 2012, 03:55:23 AM
My MO tends to be to hate any new stuff until it becomes apparant that I was wrong.  It's win-win.

TBH, I doubt I would have got a Wii when we did, had Donna not decided that she needed one, and that we should split the cost.  But I have one now, and I still use it pretty often - and it's great for having people round - it's probably the most group friendly console.  As for the Wii U, I honestly don't care enough to have bothered forming an opinion yet.

I did like the idea in last weeks Penny Arcade comic though - it's perfect for that "dungeonmaster" type stuff.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Bernie on September 19, 2012, 06:01:53 AM
Well after looking into the system, I decided I will be getting it.  It looks awesome, and can replace my white wii.  I want the black Wii U. 
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on September 19, 2012, 01:14:59 PM
Just read the controller charge lasts approximately 3.5 hours and it takes 2.5 hours to charge.  Furthermore, the controller is not USB and can only be plugged into an outlet and not the system.

That's the first bit of bad Wii U news for me, blah.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on September 19, 2012, 01:52:47 PM
anyone know if it will play wii games in hd?

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on September 19, 2012, 03:53:27 PM
anyone know if it will play wii games in hd?



Nope. It won't.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: vestcoat on September 19, 2012, 05:36:36 PM
My MO tends to be to hate any new stuff until it becomes apparant that I was wrong.  It's win-win.
...
As for the Wii U, I honestly don't care enough to have bothered forming an opinion yet.
+1
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on September 19, 2012, 09:00:43 PM
Just read the controller charge lasts approximately 3.5 hours and it takes 2.5 hours to charge.  Furthermore, the controller is not USB and can only be plugged into an outlet and not the system.

That's the first bit of bad Wii U news for me, blah.
That kindof sucks. I hope a 3rd party comes up with something to extend the life or something
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on September 20, 2012, 02:38:04 AM
anyone know if it will play wii games in hd?




Nope. It won't.

Well that's rather game. I'm assuming it won't be CG compatible either, correct? I had read somewhere that all your VC purchases do transfer however. Is that the case?

So far I'm liking the feel of that 101 super hero game but where's my 3rd party Jaw dropper?

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on September 20, 2012, 03:26:44 AM
Well that's rather game. I'm assuming it won't be CG compatible either, correct? I had read somewhere that all your VC purchases do transfer however. Is that the case?

So far I'm liking the feel of that 101 super hero game but where's my 3rd party Jaw dropper?

If I remember correctly, GameCube is out. Virtual Console and WiiWare purchases, I believe, can be transferred. However, I think you'll need your Wii do so, so don't plan on trading your Wii in for the WiiU. The same was true with the DSi and 3DS. I thought I could just use my SD card, so I traded in my DSi. Lost all my shit...

Third party jaw-droppers? On a Nintendo console? Surely you jest! (Although ZombieU looks pretty bad ass).
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on September 20, 2012, 03:52:14 AM


Third party jaw-droppers? On a Nintendo console? Surely you jest! (Although ZombieU looks pretty bad ass).

Isn't that the whole point of the U? to give experiences only possible on PS3 and MS360 on a Nintendo console? lol  ;)

I want to see Monster Hunter on it, the PS3 was supposed to get a HD version but I've no idea what happened to that?

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: RegalSin on September 20, 2012, 04:47:56 AM
anyone know if it will play wii games in hd?



Why is HD so special? Do you own a television that is over 60 inches? I have a projector, and
everything seems clear, and n normal looking, I don't think I need to see toadstools, goosbumps.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on September 20, 2012, 12:47:48 PM
It does play wii software. No gamecube support. Which is fine. I wouldnt want to be charged extra for that. Also There is a good list of 3rd party games coming out. the Platinum games are more than enough to make me happy.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on September 20, 2012, 01:25:42 PM
There are two Platinum games coming out, right? Bayonetta 2 and that other one? Beyond that and ZombieU, I haven't really seen anything great in terms of third party support; unless you count "enhanced" versions of games that came out a year ago for 360 and PS3, like Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed Whatever, and Batman Arkham City.

I'm not complaining, as I never expect Nintendo to have an assload of third-party support.

Also, Nando, this should answer your questions about Wii support:

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/interview/31784

Quote
NWR: Along the lines of downloadable games, the Virtual Console and WiiWare games will transfer over, as has been said. Will that be there day 1, and what kind of process do you think that will entail?

MF: So yes, you can transfer your Miis, your WiiWare, your Virtual Console content from Wii to Wii U; basically you have to have both systems present, and an internet connection and an SD card for Wii U, and then you can transfer the content over. Once it's transferred over, there's a mode on Wii U called "Wii Mode" and then you can play your content through Wii Mode. In terms of timing, we haven't announced specifics on that yet, so more to come.

NWR: For Wii Mode, will you be able to use the Wii U GamePad, and the Controller Pro to play Wii Games?

MF: Clearly, in Wii Mode, when you bring either WiiWare and Virtual Console games, or you're playing a Wii game, you're able to use Wii peripherals.

Additional Nintendo Rep: I do know that you can't take it off the TV and put it on the GamePad. Also, to clarify your other question, for Nintendo Land, you do need the Motion Plus Remote because some of the games require it.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on September 20, 2012, 01:36:43 PM
for forget Rayman legends is also exclusive for the Wii U
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SMF on September 20, 2012, 09:54:04 PM
Dont forget Ninja Gaiden 3 is releasing with extras only found on the WiiU. I cant wait to play as Ayane from the Dead or Alive series.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on September 21, 2012, 03:35:34 AM
for forget Rayman legends is also exclusive for the Wii U

Oh shit, I forgot about that one! That'll be a must-have for sure.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on September 21, 2012, 04:46:59 AM
Just wanted to post this sexy pic:

(http://www.gamereactor.es/media/w388/wiiudefinitiva_563391.jpg)

From this photo gallery:
http://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/34711/Wii+U+final%3A+galer%EDa+fotos+exclusivas/
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on September 24, 2012, 07:16:28 AM
Region lock lameness

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-24-nintendo-uk-confirms-the-wii-u-will-be-region-locked

Nintendo UK has confirmed to Eurogamer that the Wii U will be region locked.
That means you won't be able to import games from Japan or America and play them on your European Wii U. This was the case with 3DS, and this was the case with Wii.
Nintendo's confirmation followed a translated revelation in Japanese magazine Famitsu: "What can be played on the Wii U is restricted by a region-lock feature; software not sold in the same region cannot be played."
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: RegalSin on September 24, 2012, 08:37:51 AM
So we all can agree to pitch in $20 to one person on the board to buy a Wii U, and smash it in
right in front of a line, of people waiting for WiiU consoles???

Great so it is official, Nintendo broke a rule

1. Handheld devices are to remain region free.

..............

I pitty the fool who plays wii U.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on September 24, 2012, 08:56:33 AM
Region lock lameness

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-24-nintendo-uk-confirms-the-wii-u-will-be-region-locked

Nintendo UK has confirmed to Eurogamer that the Wii U will be region locked.
That means you won't be able to import games from Japan or America and play them on your European Wii U. This was the case with 3DS, and this was the case with Wii.
Nintendo's confirmation followed a translated revelation in Japanese magazine Famitsu: "What can be played on the Wii U is restricted by a region-lock feature; software not sold in the same region cannot be played."


Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TR0N on September 24, 2012, 05:33:54 PM
Region lock lameness

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-24-nintendo-uk-confirms-the-wii-u-will-be-region-locked

Nintendo UK has confirmed to Eurogamer that the Wii U will be region locked.
That means you won't be able to import games from Japan or America and play them on your European Wii U. This was the case with 3DS, and this was the case with Wii.
Nintendo's confirmation followed a translated revelation in Japanese magazine Famitsu: "What can be played on the Wii U is restricted by a region-lock feature; software not sold in the same region cannot be played."

Man nintendo sure can be nazi some times.Really what is there problem with importing all of a sudden !? On there past consoles they were not strict about it.Then with the wii they region lock it,plus the 3DS to and now the wii u !? You know all this will do is encourage piracy i bet some one will invent a mod chip to play imports and burns.....
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: motdelbourt on September 24, 2012, 07:44:35 PM
Was anyone really expecting it not to be region locked? It's annoying, but it's extremely rare these days for me to even want to import a game, with so many to choose from and so little time.

I guess it's worse for Euroland and Australia/NZ.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on September 25, 2012, 12:48:47 AM
The reason they region lock these things is it is easier than ever now to import games from other regions.  Some countries have a distinct price advantage, specifically the US.  If a European gamer were to import all of its Wii U games from the US, due to currency exchange, the European gamer would save a fortune.

Not saying I defend it, but that's the logic behind region locks.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Frank_fjs on September 25, 2012, 12:57:21 AM
How much tax do you guys in the US pay on a Wii U console, and do you guys pay it at the checkout?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DragonmasterDan on September 25, 2012, 01:16:23 AM
How much tax do you guys in the US pay on a Wii U console, and do you guys pay it at the checkout?

Depends on the state, some stats have no sales tax.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on September 25, 2012, 04:18:18 AM
How much tax do you guys in the US pay on a Wii U console, and do you guys pay it at the checkout?

Depends on the state, some stats have no sales tax.

I don't live in one of those states...  8.75% tax for me at checkout.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: BlueBMW on September 25, 2012, 04:50:50 AM
9.25% at checkout for me.  Though my state has no income tax.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on September 25, 2012, 06:31:38 AM
Just got to play New Super Mario Bros U at work. I can say without hesitation that it was insanely fun. We played five-player rush mode, where the person holding the pad gets to lay down platforms, stun enemies, and help or hinder the other players. After I got done, I realized how fun this is going to be, giving the pad to my 2 year-old son (who's an iPad junkie), and letting him cause chaos while the rest of my family tries to get through each level. Great stuff.

The pad itself feels really nice. It took me a moment to get used to how big it was; smaller than an iPad, bigger than a Kindle. But it's just another instance of how Nintendo knows controllers. Within moments it felt like the most natural thing in the world. I really liked it.

They were just booting up ZombieU as I left, but I had to get back to work, so I didn't stick around to check it out.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on September 25, 2012, 12:26:42 PM
9.25% at checkout for me.  Though my state has no income tax.

I lived in TN for a summer and it was like heaven.  NY taxes are absurd.

I should've preordered my Wii U in a state with cheaper taxes...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TR0N on September 25, 2012, 07:36:07 PM
The reason they region lock these things is it is easier than ever now to import games from other regions.  Some countries have a distinct price advantage, specifically the US.  If a European gamer were to import all of its Wii U games from the US, due to currency exchange, the European gamer would save a fortune.

Not saying I defend it, but that's the logic behind region locks.
That's most likely nintendo bs excuse yet sony let the PSP,PS3 and vita be region free so i still think it's lame on nintendo part.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on September 25, 2012, 09:23:21 PM
I have to say, it does look damn nice.  But teh games!  Teh games!

I dare say we'll all be getting one when they release the 30th anniversary Zelda game.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on September 26, 2012, 12:13:38 PM
The reason they region lock these things is it is easier than ever now to import games from other regions.  Some countries have a distinct price advantage, specifically the US.  If a European gamer were to import all of its Wii U games from the US, due to currency exchange, the European gamer would save a fortune.

Not saying I defend it, but that's the logic behind region locks.
That's most likely nintendo bs excuse yet sony let the PSP,PS3 and vita be region free so i still think it's lame on nintendo part.

I agree with you from a gamer standpoint that it sucks.  However, from a business perspective, Sony is the last place I would look if I was trying to find smart management.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on September 26, 2012, 01:08:14 PM
One a slightly more positive note

http://kotaku.com/5946726/the-wonderful-surprise-hiding-in-the-wii-u-launch-line+up

"This fall, the Wii U is actually going to be a good console for... downloadable indie games.

This is weird, folks. We're in Nintendo-Does-What-Nintendon't territory."


Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 02, 2012, 03:52:32 AM
@jlued686
Mind if I ask where you work?  I'm jealous you're getting to play Mario U already!  I preordered it along with my console, and I can't wait to see Mario in HD.

The thing about Wii U I'm most upset about is I'm reading that all of N's first party games will only run in 720p, not 1080p.  (I don't know about 3rd party games.)  But c'mon Nintendo!  Rayman Origins runs at 1080p on my PS3 (and looks gorgeous I might add) and there's no reason a 2D platformer like Mario U shouldn't do the same.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on October 02, 2012, 05:16:46 AM
@jlued686
Mind if I ask where you work?  I'm jealous you're getting to play Mario U already!  I preordered it along with my console, and I can't wait to see Mario in HD.

I work at the corporate HQ for a large retail chain.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 02, 2012, 06:13:50 AM
  Large retail chain that rhymes with Lameflop by chance?  Can't imagine any other any other corp offices that are gonna let their people play games.  Maybe Toys R Us ?

  The reason I suspect Gamestop is they often will sell opened games as "new" which really pisses me off.  I hear too many stories of employees that take new games home, etc.

  Anyways, still very jealous!  I have a suspicion that the Wii U will be like the Dreamcast at launch.  Sure, we all know there's bigger, badder systems coming, but for now it will shine brightly and be a blast to play.  A big part of me though realizes N isn't going to want to compete much longer hardware-wise with Sony and Microshit, and this may likely be their last console before switching only to software like Sega.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 02, 2012, 06:17:47 AM
  A big part of me though realizes N isn't going to want to compete much longer hardware-wise with Sony and Microshit, and this may likely be their last console before switching only to software like Sega.

Highly unlikely, they've said that's not their goal. Their franchises stand out not only because they have good game play and a hell of a lifespan, but because you can only get those experiences on Nintendo systems. The minute you "water them down" they are no longer "special."

They probably have the Wii U setup for a long shelf life though, think PS3. I'm still on the fence about the 3DS.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on October 02, 2012, 06:18:24 AM
  Large retail chain that rhymes with Lameflop by chance?

Nope.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: RegalSin on October 02, 2012, 06:31:58 AM
Seriously show me somethinng on Wii U that is worth it. A controller is not worth anything, We all said the same exact thing when the  N64, Saturn, PSX, ro something simular. I want to know what is so the 411, aboutt he Wii U, what is so great? They could probably make the gamecube handheld right now if they wanted, so what is so magnificant about this game system? Show me, RegalSin wants to know, RegalSin has to know..bbbbbbzzzzzz
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: MotherGunner on October 02, 2012, 07:22:40 AM
While we're at it, let's say part of a bridge collapsed and there are two vehicles about to fall over into the water below:  One is a truck-full of Wii U's and the other is you Regal.  One will bring joy to many, one will not.  Understanding that the needs of the many outway the needs of the one, what is the most logical salvage operation in this situation?  

(http://acquiredtaste.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/scared-in-car.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 02, 2012, 08:10:58 AM
Highly unlikely, they've said that's not their goal. Their franchises stand out not only because they have good game play and a hell of a lifespan, but because you can only get those experiences on Nintendo systems. The minute you "water them down" they are no longer "special."

They probably have the Wii U setup for a long shelf life though, think PS3. I'm still on the fence about the 3DS.

  I hope you are right Nando, I really do.  But things do change, not always for the best, and I fear the worst.  Doesnt matter what their stated goals are.
  Admittedly, I REALLY hate motion controls, the main reason Wii was successful because really, it was just a gimmick for Twilight Princess that N made into an entire console.  I hate to pander to Regalsin, but the Wii U really offers nothing new.  I'm not too impressed with the GamePad and all the first party titles have already been done before (New SMB, Pikmin).  If people shun the Wii U and it flounders kind of like 3DS did, N's hardware days could be numbered.

  Re: 3DS - my 8 year old stepson has one (grandparents bought it for him at launch) but he always keeps the 3D effect off.  I'm thinking "shit, I would have killed to have 3D games at 7 and 8!"  Having played Mario 3D Land and others myself, you really have to center the screen in front of your face and keep it centered which isnt always easy.  It looks great though But I dont want to digress into a 3D tech discussion lol...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 02, 2012, 08:49:10 AM
I could speculate all day long :D

I do remember reading about the good 'ol N trying to setup some sort of internal social network thingie (*in the voice of Scott Pilgrim movie version)

You are right though, as "youngster" I never saw Sega changing their business plan and failing so miserably in the console dept.

I'm curious in seeing what Nintendo's long term plan is. I never fully bought into the Wii, but I am actually considering making the plunge into the new system, their franchises in HD being the only real incentive. Ditto on the 3D but the XL version and I can hold off to see if they make it a dual stick.

Still early though and I've got more than enough PCE games to keep me entertained, not to mentioned a shit to more I want to own. :D

Anyway, I don't see Nintendo going away any time soon or "watering down" their portfolio.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Father5&JoshUnion on October 02, 2012, 09:04:12 AM
I was also somewhat excited to see if the Wii U would be able to upscale Wii games like the Wii PC Emulators do.  But heard that the Wii games will not look any different..... Boo again, Nintendo.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/01/nintendo_reconfirms_wii_u_will_not_make_wii_games_sharper
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 02, 2012, 09:09:27 AM
..... Boo again, Nintendo.


lol, like the article stated, they'll probably offer HD remasters at some point in the near future. Classic Wii U HD package or some shit.

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 02, 2012, 10:10:44 AM
 Does anyone know yet if the Wii U/Nintendo Network will support trophies/achievements like PSN and Xbox Live?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on October 03, 2012, 01:16:44 AM
Does anyone know yet if the Wii U/Nintendo Network will support trophies/achievements like PSN and Xbox Live?

God I hope not.
I don't actually mind them sometimes, like in Burnout or Uncharted, but it's rare that games actually offer it up as anything more than proof you've actually played it.

Why the f*ck would I want to be patted on the back for playing a game I just bought?  The game should be the reward.  But that may be a topic for another thread.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 03, 2012, 03:37:38 AM
  Well Soop, trophies/achievements can be ignored if you're not into them.  I have some friends that feel that way and we often have this same debate.  Personally I think they're fun, but some people get way too carried away with trophy hunting.  They're pretty much standard now in the industry so I'll be let down if N doesn't jump on board.
  The reason I like them is if you're friend says he TKO'd Mike Tyson in Punch-Out (to use a next-to-imposible example), you can confirm it if they have the trophy.  And if not, you know your friend is full of shit.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on October 03, 2012, 03:48:02 AM
The best achievements are the ones that make you play games differently or get better at the games. Geometry Wars is the best example I can think of. Lots of shmups (specifically the Cave-made ones) give achievements for 1-credit-clears, things like that. So I think they're valuable when they add life to the game and give you more incentive for playing.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: RegalSin on October 03, 2012, 05:06:56 AM
How about just a place to record your score online, instead calling it achievements or trophies?

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 03, 2012, 05:43:22 AM
The best achievements are the ones that make you play games differently or get better at the games. Geometry Wars is the best example I can think of. Lots of shmups (specifically the Cave-made ones) give achievements for 1-credit-clears, things like that. So I think they're valuable when they add life to the game and give you more incentive for playing.

  Agreed.  I generally like to seek out every dusty corner of a game whether there are trophies or not, and trophies give a bit of incentive to do so.  And they can often get you out of your comfort zone and try new things/techniques which is a good thing imo.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Father5&JoshUnion on October 03, 2012, 06:04:48 AM
Does anyone know yet if the Wii U/Nintendo Network will support trophies/achievements like PSN and Xbox Live?

I'd be all for it if they actually mattered.  Like if you get 1,000 trophy/N points on Metriod Prime 4, you unlock a special side scrolling marketing adventure JRPG or something.

2000 N points and you get to download Dr. Mario or something......
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: RegalSin on October 03, 2012, 06:05:26 AM
Oh you mean Easter Eggs, and cheats?

Well some games you have to collect everything to get X content, otherwise you would stop playing. It was like when I was playing RE4 and finally got Weskers for Waterworld. ( speaking of
which why hasn;t waterworld been made by Capcom yet?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on October 03, 2012, 07:00:01 PM
I used to hate the trophies thing, but lately, since I have such a backlog, it does help me to kinda check off each game I've beaten for PS3.  It might also help me sharpent my skills(or lack there of) by getting me to try to achieve the trophies that aren't beyond ridiculous, but are still chalenging.  Like with Captain America, I was able to get a platinum on that....which is unheard of for me.  But, I has a blast trying to beat the various challenges for the trophies.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on October 03, 2012, 11:48:24 PM
  Well Soop, trophies/achievements can be ignored if you're not into them.  I have some friends that feel that way and we often have this same debate.  Personally I think they're fun, but some people get way too carried away with trophy hunting.  They're pretty much standard now in the industry so I'll be let down if N doesn't jump on board.
  The reason I like them is if you're friend says he TKO'd Mike Tyson in Punch-Out (to use a next-to-imposible example), you can confirm it if they have the trophy.  And if not, you know your friend is full of shit.

I suppose they can be useful.  But on XBLA, one of my friends used to brag about his high score and my low one.  I pointed out that I only tend to buy games when they're excessively cheap, or old, which means that (for example) it's going to be very hard for me to complete the online challenges for Samurai Shodown II (and the fact that I find it difficult).

But yeah I would agree that for proof, or for extending the game they can be useful, and for extending the game, I like those trophies.  But I find those in the minority.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 11, 2012, 04:20:11 AM
The innards of this thing
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wiiu/console/0/0
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on October 11, 2012, 08:18:37 AM
Yknow, I am kind of glad I preordered the thing after reading this, and after hearing there was a fire and there may be shortages. 

but, I have been going back and playing my Wii games lately, including the new Kirby collection.


It took awhile for the Wii to get the library I gave a shit about, but it finally did happen.

So, I can keep playing those on the new thing, and see what newthings also come with it.


I have honestly been ignoring the library.   I want to see how I feel about just walking in on Day 1 and looking at my options.   Surprising myself!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 11, 2012, 08:59:39 AM

It took awhile for the Wii to get the library I gave a shit about, but it finally did happen.

So, I can keep playing those on the new thing, and see what newthings also come with it.




I've been convincing my self the same way and I am sold on the Wii U now lol, plus I want to see Mario and Nintendo cast in HD!

and now this shit!

DAMN IT NINTENDO! why you gotta take my money?  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 11, 2012, 05:10:00 PM
  In an earlier post I had lamented that the Wii U's first party titles were only going to run in 720p.  Turns out Mario U (for one) will be in 1080p after all.  Damn it's gonna look gorgeous!  Can't wait!

http://www.vg247.com/2012/10/11/new-super-mario-bros-u-1080p-support-confirmed/
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Tatsujin on October 11, 2012, 05:18:11 PM
I Wee on U.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 12, 2012, 01:57:03 AM
  Dear lord!! Now N has apparently amended their site to remove the 1080p statement to claim simply "HD".  Nintendo, will you just release the damn thing?  I don't want to have to freeze myself in snow for the next month.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/10/12/nintendo-u-turns-on-new-super-mario-bros-u-1080p-claims/
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on October 12, 2012, 03:52:04 AM

It took awhile for the Wii to get the library I gave a shit about, but it finally did happen.

So, I can keep playing those on the new thing, and see what newthings also come with it.




I've been convincing my self the same way and I am sold on the Wii U now lol, plus I want to see Mario and Nintendo cast in HD!

and now this shit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9wkQGEpRgL0

DAMN IT NINTENDO! why you gotta take my money?  :mrgreen:




I absolutely hated the Wii for the first 3-4 years the thing was out.

Smash Bros is dumb, Mario Galaxy was depressing, NiGHTS was f*cking retarded...

and then all the kirby/etc. games showed up and made the thing feel like a Nintendo again.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 12, 2012, 04:01:06 AM
Mario Galaxy was depressing

Really? I haven't played it yet, but it looked pretty neat and the concept seemed cool. Is that just for #1 or for both?

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on October 12, 2012, 04:04:45 AM
Theyre both stupid.   I don't like anything Nintendo did to Mario in 3D.  They were all mental.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on October 12, 2012, 04:38:38 AM
Arkhan, sometimes I think you're brilliant, and sometimes I think you belong in a mental institution. The Mario Galaxy games are f*cking sublime. 3D platforming perfection.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on October 12, 2012, 04:57:59 AM
3D platforming?

More like 3D ball-wandering.

Sounds like RegalSin's saturday night.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 12, 2012, 05:00:39 AM
  Why all the hate Arkhan?  Mario Galaxy games are awesome.  Maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but incredible level design and fun gameplay.  I'm trying to finish Galaxy 2 before the Wii U comes out.  It's been in my "pile of shame" for a while now, games I keep meaning to get back and finish.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 12, 2012, 05:01:14 AM
Brilliantly CRAZY!!! ;)

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on October 12, 2012, 06:05:38 AM
Seriously, I think Galaxy 2 might be the best 3D platformer of all time. It really is brilliant.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on October 12, 2012, 06:42:04 AM
Loved Mario 64, REALLY LOVED Mario Sunshine, enjoyed the hell out of Mario 3D Land...

Didn't care for Mario Galaxy at all.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on October 12, 2012, 07:01:47 AM
Best 3D Platformer of all time?

lolno


Have you ever played Scaler for PS2?   Game is sooooo much better than any 3D mario.

Also, I much preferred Spyro back in the day.  Kao the Kangaroo as well.

Don't forget Bug!

And, Brave Fencer Musashi, I suppose.   


Does jumping flash count as a 3D platformer?   It's SUPER 3D.

I'd take that game over Mario any frigging day of the week.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: geise on October 12, 2012, 07:11:42 AM
lol ark!  I love me some Jumping Flash, but holy shit!  Way better than Mario Galaxy?  I was on the Mario 3d hate bandwagon till I played Mario Galaxy.  Seriously?  Jumping Flash?  You should've said Jumping Flash 2 then I might've been a little more forgiving. :D
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on October 12, 2012, 07:54:34 AM
Ark, we're gonna have to agree to disagree.

(Can we also agree that you're insane?)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 12, 2012, 08:00:23 AM
Loved Mario 64, REALLY LOVED Mario Sunshine, enjoyed the hell out of Mario 3D Land...

Didn't care for Mario Galaxy at all.

what was it about it? game design? level design? controls? game play?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on October 12, 2012, 12:49:23 PM
Loved Mario 64, REALLY LOVED Mario Sunshine, enjoyed the hell out of Mario 3D Land...

Didn't care for Mario Galaxy at all.

what was it about it? game design? level design? controls? game play?


I didn't like the jumping between planets and any time I had to point at anything with the Wiimote it felt cumbersome.  Most of the worlds were smaller and less enjoyable than the N64 and GCN games.  The whole upside down and gravity aspect of the game was not enjoyable to me at all.  The backgrounds were saddening?

Basically the warmth and scope and vertical sprawl of Sunshine were nowhere to be found in Galaxy.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on October 12, 2012, 01:51:43 PM
I still haven't bothered to pick up the Galaxy's, because I've just been completely unsure of them......& this thread has now solidified my unsuredness ](*,) :lol:
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: BlueBMW on October 13, 2012, 01:43:36 AM
I loved Mario 64 and really loved Sunshine, but couldnt get into Galaxy as much.  Havent preordered a Wii U yet... the lack of Gamecube compatibility turned me off :)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Keranu on October 13, 2012, 05:03:58 AM
Galaxy seemed like it had everything right, yet it felt very lackluster to me. Haven't played the sequel, maybe it has more oomph.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on October 13, 2012, 05:37:36 AM
Has the whole world gone crazy?!

PD, if you haven't tried the Galaxy games, I implore you: at least give SMG2 a shot. It fixes everything wrong with the first one (which wasn't much to begin with) and delivers some of the most inventive platforming levels out there; especially later in the game.

Bizarro world, man...f*cking bizarro world.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 13, 2012, 07:16:47 AM

Bizarro world, man...f*cking bizarro world.

Just different scenes for different genes. Do try it though with an open mind as possible.

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 15, 2012, 01:36:00 AM
  jlued686, I'm with you man, I'm with you.  I know on these forums we won't see a whole lotta love for Mario, but it's only because no one wants to be caught disOBEYing.  We'll just have to let Ark and others play them secretly while publicly denouncing them.  ;)

  Also, I was surprised to see so much love for Mario Sunshine which has to be my least fav Mario game ever.  The whole waterpak thing just didn't work for me.  Mario has never need a permanent weapon/tool before or since.  Galaxy 1 and 2 however are close to perfect, and I rarely say that about any games.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on October 15, 2012, 02:39:38 AM
I like the 2D marios, and Mario 64 was good, but I haven't really tried the other 3D ones.

New Super Mario DS was WAY too easy.  Enjoyable, but a light snack.

I am very pleased to say that I've 100%'d Yoshi's Island, and I had an insane amount of fun doing it.  That has to be one of the greatest platformers made.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on October 15, 2012, 04:02:40 AM
  jlued686, I'm with you man, I'm with you.  I know on these forums we won't see a whole lotta love for Mario, but it's only because no one wants to be caught disOBEYing.  We'll just have to let Ark and others play them secretly while publicly denouncing them.  ;)

  Also, I was surprised to see so much love for Mario Sunshine which has to be my least fav Mario game ever.  The whole waterpak thing just didn't work for me.  Mario has never need a permanent weapon/tool before or since.  Galaxy 1 and 2 however are close to perfect, and I rarely say that about any games.


I like the OTHER Mario game for the Wii alot more.

New Super Mario. Bros (AKA: 1980s mario with shiney graphics), was infinitely moar funs.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on October 16, 2012, 09:30:59 AM
  An interesting article (though a month old now) about the Nintendo Network, online mp, achievements, etc.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/09/why-dont-we-know-more-about-the-wii-us-online-gameplay-features/
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 16, 2012, 12:02:58 PM
  jlued686, I'm with you man, I'm with you.  I know on these forums we won't see a whole lotta love for Mario, but it's only because no one wants to be caught disOBEYing.  We'll just have to let Ark and others play them secretly while publicly denouncing them.  ;)

  Also, I was surprised to see so much love for Mario Sunshine which has to be my least fav Mario game ever.  The whole waterpak thing just didn't work for me.  Mario has never need a permanent weapon/tool before or since.  Galaxy 1 and 2 however are close to perfect, and I rarely say that about any games.


I like the OTHER Mario game for the Wii alot more.

New Super Mario. Bros (AKA: 1980s mario with shiney graphics), was infinitely moar funs.


Would you like the galaxy games if it wasn't Mario? Have you tried numero dos?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 16, 2012, 01:44:07 PM
  An interesting article (though a month old now) about the Nintendo Network, online mp, achievements, etc.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/09/why-dont-we-know-more-about-the-wii-us-online-gameplay-features/


news to me. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TR0N on October 16, 2012, 06:26:59 PM
 An interesting article (though a month old now) about the Nintendo Network, online mp, achievements, etc.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/09/why-dont-we-know-more-about-the-wii-us-online-gameplay-features/

I hope the wii u online play will be like the 360 gamertags etc.Mostly because i hated the friends codes on the wii,it was such a outdated system to begin with.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 17, 2012, 02:32:15 AM
From reading that, it seems that Nintendo may be a portal to other companies networks and just play host to their networked internal licenses. So the burden is not on them to monitor things out of their studio.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on October 17, 2012, 04:29:22 AM
  jlued686, I'm with you man, I'm with you.  I know on these forums we won't see a whole lotta love for Mario, but it's only because no one wants to be caught disOBEYing.  We'll just have to let Ark and others play them secretly while publicly denouncing them.  ;)

  Also, I was surprised to see so much love for Mario Sunshine which has to be my least fav Mario game ever.  The whole waterpak thing just didn't work for me.  Mario has never need a permanent weapon/tool before or since.  Galaxy 1 and 2 however are close to perfect, and I rarely say that about any games.


I like the OTHER Mario game for the Wii alot more.

New Super Mario. Bros (AKA: 1980s mario with shiney graphics), was infinitely moar funs.


Would you like the galaxy games if it wasn't Mario? Have you tried numero dos?


Probably not.   I thought the whole game was pretty boring and retarded to be honest.   

I'd probably play it a bit more if it were some obnoxious rainbow colored seizurefest with the same mechanics, but even then, I'd get bored once the eye candy wears off.

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on October 17, 2012, 05:13:35 AM
Arkhan, I know you're complex and impossible to pin down, but... there are a lot of games that you DO like that I have no idea why.  I'm not even sure if you're serious half the time.  Or half the time when it seems like you might be being serious. (so a quarter of the time?)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on October 19, 2012, 02:52:32 AM
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQM1pwjwEnPcp-SZAdUM8mAmFun6XcclsBeW7jQQ0NmtoBc4XiW


upon googling Hydlide for a picture, I find this.

f*ck yeah.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SuperDeadite on October 19, 2012, 03:23:19 AM
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQM1pwjwEnPcp-SZAdUM8mAmFun6XcclsBeW7jQQ0NmtoBc4XiW


upon googling Hydlide for a picture, I find this.

f*ck yeah.

FAP FAP
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on October 30, 2012, 08:10:25 AM
this is neat news. I still think more needs to be done to warrant me purchasing a game digitally though

http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=189232
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on October 30, 2012, 08:42:00 AM
this is neat news. I still think more needs to be done to warrant me purchasing a game digitally though

http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=189232


I want lots of Demos!  I want demos of games that are available in the stores.  Something i actually really like about the 360.  The only problem is that I tend to only play as much as the demo offers anyway.  :P
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on October 30, 2012, 09:53:04 AM
this is neat news. I still think more needs to be done to warrant me purchasing a game digitally though

http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=189232


I want lots of Demos!  I want demos of games that are available in the stores.  Something i actually really like about the 360.  The only problem is that I tend to only play as much as the demo offers anyway.  :P


But that's the point, if the demo didn't leave you wanting for more, then you probably should spend your money else where.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on October 31, 2012, 10:32:38 AM
I was talking to my friend today about how excited I've become for this retarded thing.   I'll get to box my Wii up and use this instead!  That'll be cool.    
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on October 31, 2012, 03:46:02 PM
I was talking to my friend today about how excited I've become for this retarded thing.   I'll get to box my Wii up and use this instead!  That'll be cool.   


Im just gunna keep the wii in my bedroom, and use it for netflix
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Firebomber7 on October 31, 2012, 06:16:18 PM
I love Mario Galaxy. I've never played the sequel, but I imagine it's super fun.

I still have no plans to get a WiiU anytime soon, though. Too much retro stuffs I want more.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on November 01, 2012, 12:03:43 AM
I have a theory that the retro gamr market spike is related to Nintendo's lack of home console activity- and that the release of the WiiU will reduce demand for retro stuff, at least for a spell.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on November 01, 2012, 12:44:12 AM
I have a theory that the retro gamr market spike is related to Nintendo's lack of home console activity- and that the release of the WiiU will reduce demand for retro stuff, at least for a spell.

I never thought about this, but you could be right.  Not due to the lack of a Nintendo console, but due to the lack of any new console, in what has become the longest generation of systems.

Those younger players who have gotten sick of nearly a decade with the same shit have bought old consoles, because to these younger players it is a way to get something "new."  The additional releases of retro games on consoles and phones probably just added fuel to the fire.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DragonmasterDan on November 01, 2012, 01:35:26 AM

I never thought about this, but you could be right.  Not due to the lack of a Nintendo console, but due to the lack of any new console, in what has become the longest generation of systems.

Those younger players who have gotten sick of nearly a decade with the same shit have bought old consoles, because to these younger players it is a way to get something "new."  The additional releases of retro games on consoles and phones probably just added fuel to the fire.

Also remember, the trend of retro stuff started about 7-8 years ago even before the Wii, 360 and PS3 hit the market. I started seeing clone systems, replacement third peripherals popping up around 2004-2005
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 01, 2012, 03:18:06 AM
The trend started long before that, when Hot Topic and shit started selling NES shirts to kids who can't even spell NES.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: vestcoat on November 01, 2012, 07:58:23 PM
I have a theory that the retro gamr market spike is related to Nintendo's lack of home console activity- and that the release of the WiiU will reduce demand for retro stuff, at least for a spell.
Retro gaming is popular because:
1) it's popular
2) people mindlessly follow trends
3) the industry has consolidated = less competition = less innovation
4) no one will take chances because the budgets are so big = less innovation
5) less innovation = equals clones, shovelware, and boring games
6) boring new games create interest in good old games
7) the next generation will refer to '87-93 as the "Golden Age" of video games
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 02, 2012, 04:54:46 AM
Yeah.  That.  That right there.

Vestcoat ftw, etc.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 07, 2012, 06:59:31 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/11/06/nintendos-miyamoto-meeting-with-developers-to-encourage-wii-u-support/

from the article:
While Nintendo’s last few portable devices have enjoyed stellar support from third-party publishers, the same can’t be said for their home videogame consoles. The Nintendo 64, Gamecube and Wii were all in dire need of quality games from publishers that weren’t Nintendo, and for the most part, those games never came.

 

In order to help prevent a repeat occurrence of this problem, Nintendo’s Shigeru Miyamoto has been personally meeting with third-party videogame developers to encourage them to work on Nintendo’s upcoming Wii U console, he tells IGN.

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 07, 2012, 06:31:15 PM
I'm a lil upset that the Wii U doesnt have a Ethernet port built in. Gotta buy the Wii Lan adapter. 
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on November 07, 2012, 08:30:54 PM
I'm a little upset that the Wii U is nothing more then the most basic gaming pc,crammed into a tiny shell, with a barely adequate internal cooling solution, and comes packaged with what seems to be the Ipad 9, which happens to be expected to serve as a normal gamepad for normal games not using the old Wii controller. Big, bulky, and retarded. First world problems, I know, right?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on November 07, 2012, 09:35:29 PM

Retro gaming is popular because:
1) it's popular


BOOM! /argument
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 08, 2012, 01:12:02 AM
I got to try out the controller at my local bestbuy. It's pretty light and feels comfortable to hold; it didn't feel too terribly bulky and the buttons and pads felt good. No games were running at the time though.

Funny that 20 some odd years ago Nintendo was in a position to tell folk what to do  and what to produce where, now they find themselves in a situation where they have to work harder with developers, and maybe even act as publishers, to get the 3rd party games on their system. 
How times change.....

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 08, 2012, 01:58:04 AM
I'm a little upset that the Wii U is nothing more then the most basic gaming pc,crammed into a tiny shell, with a barely adequate internal cooling solution, and comes packaged with what seems to be the Ipad 9, which happens to be expected to serve as a normal gamepad for normal games not using the old Wii controller. Big, bulky, and retarded. First world problems, I know, right?

If it all bombs, I just see it as a way to play my Wii games instead of on my Wii!

...yeah.


I'm going into it blind and hoping the dumbass controller gimmick is fun

but, I sort of expect hatred, since I often eat chips while gaming.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on November 08, 2012, 02:05:47 AM
depending on the usability of the pad as a standalone device, I'm warming to it a little.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 08, 2012, 02:24:56 AM
As far as I know, it has no ability as a standalone device. You can play WiiU games on it and do certain functions with it, without having it displayed on your TV, but you have to be either in the same room, or in a room very close to the WiiU itself.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on November 08, 2012, 02:48:52 AM


Iwata Unboxes the WiiU

I wonder if it will be a pain in the ass to buy one? I didn't want to preorder- planning to check downtrodden Kmarts for a deluxe bundle on the release date.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 08, 2012, 03:06:31 AM
I preordered the white one because I hate black unless Sony/Sega

and I don't get a DLC bonus now, but who f*cking cares.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on November 08, 2012, 03:35:52 AM
I want the black one because I plan to get Nintendo Land anyway, but that's about the only reason. The black one will probably show fingerprints more than the white one.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 08, 2012, 04:26:26 PM
I'm a little upset that the Wii U is nothing more then the most basic gaming pc,crammed into a tiny shell, with a barely adequate internal cooling solution, and comes packaged with what seems to be the Ipad 9, which happens to be expected to serve as a normal gamepad for normal games not using the old Wii controller. Big, bulky, and retarded. First world problems, I know, right?

If it all bombs, I just see it as a way to play my Wii games instead of on my Wii!

...yeah.


I'm going into it blind and hoping the dumbass controller gimmick is fun

but, I sort of expect hatred, since I often eat chips while gaming.

Used chop sticks to eat your chips
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: GohanX on November 09, 2012, 05:24:56 AM
but, I sort of expect hatred, since I often eat chips while gaming.

Paint chips? That explains a lot.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 09, 2012, 07:02:21 AM

Used chop sticks to eat your chips


(http://emailblog.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/karate_email_catch_flies_with_chopsticks_like_Mr_miyagi.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on November 11, 2012, 11:56:43 AM
I've been thinking.  Does the Wii U gamepad work just like the combination of the Nunchuck & Wiimote?  I've been wanting to play the Metroid Prime Trilogy, but I haven't gotten inspired to do so, & I think it's cuz I still have mixed emotions about having 2 controllers in my hands, rather then one.....if that makes any sense?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 11, 2012, 01:54:55 PM
I've been thinking.  Does the Wii U gamepad work just like the combination of the Nunchuck & Wiimote?  I've been wanting to play the Metroid Prime Trilogy, but I haven't gotten inspired to do so, & I think it's cuz I still have mixed emotions about having 2 controllers in my hands, rather then one.....if that makes any sense?

i read on gonintendo that you cant use the gamepad to play Wii games. As far as metroid is concerned, 3 plays great with the wiimote and nunchuck.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on November 11, 2012, 02:28:40 PM
Bummer, it'd be cool if someone came up with some kind of combined gamepad that has the functions of the 2 controllers, though, I'm sure it'd not work with a ton of games. :/
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 11, 2012, 04:58:30 PM
i dont think i would like aiming around with the gamepad as opposed to the wii mote. The game pad is so much bigger. Seems like it would be harder to aim with
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on November 11, 2012, 05:49:13 PM
Maybe.  Seems like the few people that have tried it, say it's quite comfortable.  I'll just have to motivate myself to play thru the trilogy on Wii.  I'm a huge Metroid fan, but the Prime series(especially Hunters) is hard for me to get into, & I do like the occasional FPS, but, give me sidescrolling, or even 3rd person any day of the week!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 15, 2012, 04:36:12 PM
So the Wii u is only a few days away. Im planning on getting Zombii U as well. What are you guys planning on picking up at launch day?
Also i need to find out if screen protectors will be available
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Digi.k on November 16, 2012, 12:13:32 AM
if you are getting the basic like I was planning too.. might want to invest in a portable drive..


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-15-basic-8gb-wii-u-has-just-3gb-space-after-system-installs

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: GohanX on November 16, 2012, 12:42:38 AM
i read on gonintendo that you cant use the gamepad to play Wii games. As far as metroid is concerned, 3 plays great with the wiimote and nunchuck.

Seriously, MP3 plays wonderfully with the Nunchuck and Wiimote once you tweak the settings a bit. I wouldn't want to use any other method.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 16, 2012, 01:43:14 AM
I've got the deluxe set preordered, along with New Super Mario Bros. U and ZombiU. I'm hoping to read reviews before I pick up ZombiU, as I'm sorta on the fence about that one. I remember picking up Red Steel at the Wii's launch and returning it a few days later. Don't wanna make that same mistake.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 17, 2012, 06:22:30 AM
I've got the deluxe set preordered, along with New Super Mario Bros. U and ZombiU. I'm hoping to read reviews before I pick up ZombiU, as I'm sorta on the fence about that one. I remember picking up Red Steel at the Wii's launch and returning it a few days later. Don't wanna make that same mistake.

yeah i feel the same way about zombii U. i read the gamespot review. But it was a really poor review so im not taking that opinion into consideration
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on November 17, 2012, 07:58:52 AM
Anyone's Gamestop having a midnight opening?  Mine isn't, pretty f*cking weak if you ask me.

I'll get to join in on the fun at 11AM tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 17, 2012, 08:43:40 AM
Anyone's Gamestop having a midnight opening?  Mine isn't, pretty f*cking weak if you ask me.

I'll get to join in on the fun at 11AM tomorrow.

From what i have heard, most stores including best buy and gamestop are choosing not to have a midnight release of the Wii U. Not sure why. Maybe it has to do with the amount of theft that happens at these midnight releases.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 17, 2012, 08:59:25 AM
Anyone's Gamestop having a midnight opening?  Mine isn't, pretty f*cking weak if you ask me.


It's the Wii U. You can wait a few hours. It'll have a lifetime of collecting dust after that, so no rush.

No stores are opening at midnight for the same reason Nintendo releases their stuff on Sundays: Nintendo is a goody two-shoes company targeted at children. Good boys and girls do not stay up past 8:30pm on Saturday nights because it's wrong and evil. So go to church in the morning and pick it up after. I mean you DO go to church....
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 17, 2012, 11:03:14 AM
Im glad there aint a midnight launch

I don't want this shit interrupting my f*cking D&D at the BigBoy breakfast buffet in a few hours
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 17, 2012, 11:14:19 AM
Anyone's Gamestop having a midnight opening?  Mine isn't, pretty f*cking weak if you ask me.


It's the Wii U. You can wait a few hours. It'll have a lifetime of collecting dust after that, so no rush.

No stores are opening at midnight for the same reason Nintendo releases their stuff on Sundays: Nintendo is a goody two-shoes company targeted at children. Good boys and girls do not stay up past 8:30pm on Saturday nights because it's wrong and evil. So go to church in the morning and pick it up after. I mean you DO go to church....

Can you tuck me in tonight ?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 17, 2012, 11:40:55 AM
Did you do what daddy told you to do?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 17, 2012, 12:44:51 PM
Did you do what daddy told you to do?


yup yup. lol

Anyway, i really hope Nintendo has some patches to change some of this shit

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/17/key-details-on-wii-u-storage-solutions
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on November 17, 2012, 02:45:32 PM
Drove by a Best Buy and there was a line of 40 people outside waiting at 8:00.  Ended up in Walmart at 10:30 to get some Christmas lights and I asked in the electronics department what they were doing with the Wii U and they said "we did all preorders except 8 systems.  Currently there are 6 people waiting, so get in line.". Made me laugh because it is less than 40 degrees outside and hours earlier there was a giant line at Best Buy, when I could've just gotten in line at 10:30 and waited cozily inside for one.  Had one preordered so it is moot, but I was in a story telling mood.  One thing for sure, the thing will be in short supply.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 17, 2012, 06:47:28 PM
That Wii U hard drive format will be cracked pretty quickly, allowing you to mount the drives on a PC and muck with the data. I wonder why any game system needs a multi-gigbyte OS. Just a few hundred megs would be more than enough, I would think.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 18, 2012, 03:48:09 AM
Went to Toys R Us today to take advantage of the buy one get one 40% deal on Wii u games ( i dont even have mine yet, gotta wait for GS to open) They had one extra basic model. I decided to pick it up and try an make some extra cash on it to pay for the games i got and a possible pro controller.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 18, 2012, 04:34:42 AM
I got my Wii U

Gamestop pulled a Watermelon Factory:

Bunch of instock signs all over the place for Wii U.

I said COOL GIMME A SECOND ONE

"oh, its only in stock if you preordered".


*facepalm*


I am now enjoying my white, basic one with no gay overpriced accessories I don't need.


...yet
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on November 18, 2012, 04:38:11 AM
Toys R Us deal was awesome today.  Luckily got there just in time to snag the last 2 Marios (one for me and one for my niece and nephew xmas present).  I was surprised to see they had one white basic model left more than 2 hours after opening.  It seems the deluxe went super quick and the basic sales lagged.  This makes sense, because the basic system deal is a rip off.

Now the bad news, servers must be on overload because the mandatory system update is taking an hour to download, which is ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 18, 2012, 05:50:37 AM
The white one isn't a ripoff.

You get a white console.  That's immediately better than the stupid black one.


Nintendo consoles look retarded in black.

Sure you don't get a gay Nintendo Land game, or the DLC discount thing, or the dumb accessories you don't need, but hey you saved 50$ and get a white console.

Win in my book.


Also, yeah f*ck that update. 


I am impressed with the thing overall.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: BlueBMW on November 18, 2012, 05:51:29 AM
Sounds kind of like the 20gb PS3 Launch model... if you were already spending $500, what's another $100 to upgrade to the 60gb.  Maybe the basic model will be ZOMG UBER R@RE L@@K someday...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 18, 2012, 07:04:51 AM
The basic one simply looks nicer to me.  Nintendo is super white power.

lol.

I've been playing Mario.  It's extremely nice. 
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on November 18, 2012, 07:11:58 AM
Yeah, got a black one w/ Mario- found it @ Target. I really like the controller- you can play Mario and watch the Lions lose at the same time. And it's extremely responsive- better than the image on my tv.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 18, 2012, 08:31:34 AM
still doing updates. havent played nintendoland yet. If anyone wants to add my here is my Wii u ID: Munchi
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 18, 2012, 08:49:09 AM
I didn't even make any Nintendo ID shit.  f*ck the internet! PLAYIN ME SOME MARIOS
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: psychobear on November 18, 2012, 09:16:53 AM
Picked mine up... Well my sons... But hey I paid for it.. But not bad I like the whole pad idea... The Walmart where I pre ordered it still had 15 available for those who didn't pre order...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 18, 2012, 10:25:52 AM
The thing is really fun.  I'm still playing mario with my womanoid.  I had to go buy a wiimote though, lol.

My spare Wii Mote sat for so long the batteries blew up.

WHOOPS.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on November 18, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Played Scribblenauts for two hours while my gf was sleeping, because I thought she might want to play Mario with me.  Scribblenauts had me cracking up a few times.  I never played any of the other versions and the game deserves the accolades it has gotten.

My gf woke up and was being a sour puss, so I played Mario myself.  Only played the first world, but enjoyed it quite a bit.  I am not a huge fan of the character design of those squirrels though and the baby/fat yoshi oddly looks to be on drugs?

Haven't gotten around to Nintendo Land, NBA 2k13, Sonic Racing, or Zombi U yet, but I have 2/12 weeks off so I assume I can beat them all then.  Thinking about returning Zombi U due to the bad reviews, but I don't know what game I would get instead?

The Toys R Us sale is absurdly awesome though, so I got more than I originally planned to.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 18, 2012, 01:28:24 PM
My final verdict is: The Wii U is worth it.

Me and my womanoid blew through most of new mario, then we flipped to Return to Dreamland for Wii.

The Wii compatibility is awesome, and I can't wait to go put Contra Rebirth on this motherbitch and shoot some alieum.

You can see the difference between the Wii and the Wii U resolutions immediately.  Even though New SMB looks all cartoontarded, it still looks extremely crisp.



And, I have to say it, this big f*cking TV Dinner Tray controller is actually really comfortable.  It weighs about as much as a candybar and the way they have the thing curved is comfortable.


Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 18, 2012, 03:15:10 PM
I'm picking up my preordered WiiU tomorrow (didn't get home in time today), and I've got a question about the Wii data transfer:

I've got nearly all my Virtual Console and WiiWare games saved to an SD card. 1) Can I use this SD card to do the transfer? 2) Will the games on the SD card transfer over?

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 18, 2012, 03:39:31 PM
I think they will.  I didnt bother since I didnt buy any shit on VC.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TR0N on November 18, 2012, 04:44:25 PM
I'm picking up my preordered WiiU tomorrow (didn't get home in time today), and I've got a question about the Wii data transfer:

I've got nearly all my Virtual Console and WiiWare games saved to an SD card. 1) Can I use this SD card to do the transfer? 2) Will the games on the SD card transfer over?

Thanks!
Nintendo is suppose to offer a program that will let you do it.The last wii firmware update set's you up for that.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on November 18, 2012, 04:52:25 PM
I didn't do it yet, but I read the section of the manual.  Yes, you can transfer everything over.  BUT, how it works is you need to download the Transfer Tool on each system.  You can then transfer the rights of the games from your Wii to your Wii U.  Once the transfer is made, the VC stuff will no longer be on your Wii and you cannot transfer back.  That is why I didn't do it yet, that is a big commitment.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TR0N on November 18, 2012, 05:30:59 PM
I didn't do it yet, but I read the section of the manual.  Yes, you can transfer everything over.  BUT, how it works is you need to download the Transfer Tool on each system.  You can then transfer the rights of the games from your Wii to your Wii U.  Once the transfer is made, the VC stuff will no longer be on your Wii and you cannot transfer back.  That is why I didn't do it yet, that is a big commitment.
Well damn,if that's that's case then still i won't be getting a (wii u) until next year at the latest.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 19, 2012, 12:50:59 AM
I didn't do it yet, but I read the section of the manual.  Yes, you can transfer everything over.  BUT, how it works is you need to download the Transfer Tool on each system.  You can then transfer the rights of the games from your Wii to your Wii U.  Once the transfer is made, the VC stuff will no longer be on your Wii and you cannot transfer back.  That is why I didn't do it yet, that is a big commitment.

Yeah, I know that part of it. I just wasn't sure if I could use the same SD card that already has all my games on it or not. Guess I'll find out in a few hours!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 19, 2012, 02:07:18 AM
I'll wait for the Mario bundle, and to have the money after the holidays, these things ain't going away. LOL

Happy to read good things so far. COME ON HD MARIO!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on November 19, 2012, 02:15:11 AM
 Wii U First Impressions! Hardware, Gamepad, Operating System and more!


Adam Sessler and co. give their first thoughts on the Wii U.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 19, 2012, 02:20:06 AM
I'll wait for the Mario bundle, and to have the money after the holidays, these things ain't going away. LOL

Happy to read good things so far. COME ON HD MARIO!



The HD mario experience is pretty great so far.   Even though it's cartoony and stupid looking on purpose, it looks great.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SuperDeadite on November 19, 2012, 02:55:59 AM
So been watching a few videos and apparently, the WiiU has it's power brick, the controller has it's own AC Adapter, and you are pretty much required to use a self-powered external HDD sooner or later as well.  So 3 plugs to run one system, just like the Genny/SCD/32X combo!   At least Sega's addons came later though and were optional really.  Here we need 3 straight out of the box?  LOL
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 19, 2012, 03:09:30 AM
So been watching a few videos and apparently, the WiiU has it's power brick, the controller has it's own AC Adapter, and you are pretty much required to use a self-powered external HDD sooner or later as well.  So 3 plugs to run one system, just like the Genny/SCD/32X combo!   At least Sega's addons came later though and were optional really.  Here we need 3 straight out of the box?  LOL

Well, how else do you intend to charge the controller?  I guess you could fanagle a USB charger to jam into the system.

but really, the two bricks combined is still less space than a 360 brick, AND they have the little plugs, so its not like you waste 90 jacks for 3 plugs.

You don't need 3 straight out of the box.   You need 2. 

 Boo f*ckin' hoo.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on November 19, 2012, 03:43:46 AM
I was kind of surprised when I found the two power plugs, but it's way better this. You can put the controller charger/cradle/plug anywhere. We have ours on set up on the table next to the couch. I much prefer this over having the thing tethered to the console for charging. Thing is pretty cool...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 19, 2012, 03:56:44 AM
Yeah.  You can set the Wii U up to control your TV as well, and so you can use it as a TV remote basically.

Pretty cool, IMO.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 19, 2012, 04:36:59 AM
I love how easy it was to set up the controller to work with my cable box and TV. One button: BOOM! Done.

Still waiting for the system update, though...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 19, 2012, 04:54:45 AM
My system update took under an hour.   I guess everyone was watching the football shit instead
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: BigusSchmuck on November 19, 2012, 07:06:47 AM
My system update took under an hour.   I guess everyone was watching the football shit instead
I plan to get it when I get my bonus next year in April. Hopefully by then Dragon Quest X will be out for it here.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 19, 2012, 08:20:35 AM
Time to start looking at Wii titles I want to try out :D

Yay for Mario at least being fun, had no doubt it would be though.


I want to see a Mario Kart game on the system like NOW!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 19, 2012, 08:23:10 AM
8 out of 10
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nintendo+Wii+U+Teardown/11796
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on November 19, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
I'm wondering how Transformers Prime for Wii U is.  I haven't bothered to look at any reviews for the other versions of it.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on November 19, 2012, 01:33:49 PM
I was at Toys R Us again today and I picked up two copies of Fling Smash for the Wii.  $25 price with the buy one get one 40% off ended up with a total cost of $40.  The reason this was a great deal is the game comes packaged with a Wii Remote Plus.  Since the price was so good, I decided to upgrade my original Wii controllers, since motion plus will presumably be required this generation.

I believe the Wii Remote Plus as a standalone product is $40, so you can't beat this price.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 19, 2012, 01:43:15 PM
Playing Mario Chase in Nintendoland with my son has already made the WiiU worth the price.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: 8bitForLife on November 19, 2012, 08:13:29 PM
well my nnid is 8bitForLife if anyone wants to game together add me through miiverse so i see the invite.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: td741 on November 20, 2012, 01:06:36 AM
Finally had a chance to set things up last night.  Did all of the updates. Only played about 20 minutes of Nintendo land.  Hopefully my wife and I will have a chance to play a bit later.

Started the Wii to WiiU transfer this morning and planning on using my Wii as my Component GameCube...  A bit miffed that Lost Winds isn't transfering. (Frontier are saying Nintendo are currently testing a patch.)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 20, 2012, 01:38:28 AM
Playing Mario Chase in Nintendoland with my son has already made the WiiU worth the price.

How old is he?

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 20, 2012, 01:46:45 AM
Mario?

He's like 50.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 20, 2012, 03:04:01 AM
Mario?

He's like 50.


(http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/200H/i/2011/225/a/f/blink_blink_by_anime_lover0666-d46g3ev.png)


so whatchoo say arkface, Wii U or 3DS XL?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 20, 2012, 03:07:33 AM
get a Wii U and a 3DS

duhrrrrrr
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 20, 2012, 03:18:08 AM
get a Wii U and a 3DS

duhrrrrrr

(http://www.eatspraylove.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ducktales.jpg)


I've got five moufs to feed fool
(http://www.knowthemovies.com/wp-content/uploads/total-recall-movie-still-3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: psychobear on November 20, 2012, 03:20:17 AM
Better then I expected and the game pad feels comftertable to play with, my 5 year old disnt have trouble playing with it over all great system... And yes that mini mario game where you chase him is fun.. Also the luigi mansion one is is fun
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 20, 2012, 05:01:15 AM
http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/4211/20121120/nintendo-wii-u-day-one-update-bricks-consoles-firmware.htm


What a bunch of f*cking retards.

I UNPLUG DURING BIOS UPDATE AND IT BREAK WHY IT BREAK WHAT THE HECK I HATE NINTENDODO

FHUEFHAESFUDF


Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 20, 2012, 05:10:18 AM
Playing Mario Chase in Nintendoland with my son has already made the WiiU worth the price.

How old is he?


He's 5. After I posted that message, we played the Luigi's Mansion game and a few others, along with New Super Mario Bros. U. A great time was had.

My Wii data transfer got f*cked, though. I received an error message that even the Nintendo Customer Service line hadn't heard of. I still have all my VC and WiiWare games, but lost all my game saves. Not a huge deal, but still kinda annoying as there are some games I've put many hours into and now have to start over.

They're supposed to call me back with a solution, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on November 20, 2012, 06:14:47 AM
Sorry about your Wii U, Ark. :(

The Avoidable Death of Super Mario
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/gaming/features/article_1699224.php/The-Avoidable-Death-of-Super-Mario?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_31389

This is why I am not in a big hurry to get a Wii U. I wish Nintendo would put more creativity in it's newer 2D Mario games, and I can honestly say that I am not at all excited to play the new Mario.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 20, 2012, 06:30:23 AM
There's nothing wrong with my Wii U.

I was posting an article about retards who made problems with theirs.  Nothing says fail like killing the power while flashing a ROM.

anyway that article you posted made me want to punch things.


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When remembering the "classic" Mario games, each one stands out because of its style, not its gameplay, which has stayed virtually the same since day one.
This is false.  First off, Mario 1 had TWO games.  We just didn't get one.  They were identical, save the levels.

Mario 2 (Which I am sure this dipshit doesn't even realize isn't really a Mario game), was wildly different because it WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE A MARIO GAME.

Mario 3 was the defining moment of the Mario series... especially because SMW was basically Mario 3 with way better graphics.

AND NEW GAMEPLAY FEATURES NOT SEEN PREVIOUSLY SUCH AS:
Yoshi and all of his mongoloid offspring colors.
Srs as f*ck flying with a cape!
spin jumps
Ghost houses
climbing/punching
really annoying boss battles
saves!
Exploring secret levels as opposed to just secrets within the levels
New enemies not seen before on top of the shit you'd expect!


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Imagine Super Mario Bros 3 with the same sprites as the original Super Mario Bros. It wouldn't feel the same.
No shit.  Imagine any game with different graphics.  Of course it won't feel the same.   Put f*ckin Mario sprites in a Megaman game and it won't feel the same.  Durrrrrrrrrrrrrr.


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It would feel like a retread of what you'd seen and done before. Sure, there would be new enemies, but the world Mario was traversing wouldn't feel new
No it wouldn't feel like a retread.  Look at the Sonic game for NES that was made by some group.   It uses Mario 3 graphics but plays like sonic.

IT LOOKS LIKE MARIO 3 THOUGH SO IT SHOULD FEEL LIKE MARIO 3, RIGHT?

wrong.  f*ck off article-writer-guy.   The world would feel new if you slapped all the Mario 1 graphics into Mario 3 and still took players for a ride into the desert, up into the clouds, and off into giant land.  


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and the Mushroom Kingdom should always look and feel different with each new entry in the Mario franchise.
Says who?  Some chucklef*ck on the internet?   This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in regards to Mario.

Do they live in some f*ckin Matrix bullshit where the landscape morphs every couple of years and all of the organisms on the planet morph into new shit?

No.  They don't.  The Mushroom Kingdom got defined for real in Mario 3 and should never change from that.  


New Super Mario Bros U is like Mario 3 on cocaine.    When you see Lemmy's ship and then you stomp on his face, all of the $$ spent on the Wii U is immediately worth it.

The squirrel suit rules, the new enemies that popped up are fun, the levels are challenging and fun, and above all else IT FEELS LIKE A f*ckING MARIO GAME SET IN THE MUSHROOM KINGDOM THAT WE'VE COME TO KNOW AND LOVE SINCE MARIO 3.


f*ck this guy hard, with a cactus.

Next he's going to say Hyrule needs to be completely f*cking different aesthetically in every game.



I'd hate to see how this guy would fair in a game like Wizardry.

EVERY GAME HAS THE SAME WALLS THIS IS STUPID IT ALL FEELS THE SAME.


This is what happens when adults who fail at being young at heart start talking about games.    They shouldn't be allowed to talk.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 20, 2012, 06:46:04 AM
Yeah, that article is bullshit. Plus, IMO, NSMBU is easily the best of the NSMB series. It's really, really great. And despite the fact that it doesn't exactly break the mold set by previous NSMB games, it gives me a similar feeling to the one I had the first time I played SMB3 and SMW.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 20, 2012, 07:07:20 AM
Sweet, my lil one's should be able to enjoy it proper then.

The Rayman game looks really GOOD. Has anyone tried it?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on November 20, 2012, 07:41:09 AM
I really do hope that the Wii U Mario is as fun as you guys are saying. I posted that article because it brings up feelings I have been having.

NSMB on the DS was an awesome return to form. The Wii incarnation kinda felt the same. The new 3DS game seems to be in the same exact style. The Wii U Mario also seems to be just an update on this theme. In the old days each new Mario game felt new. Super Mario Galaxy felt new. The Wii U Mario just seems like a rehash to me. Again, I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 20, 2012, 07:47:45 AM
Well you have to remember, each new Mario game back in the day was coming along with drastic hardware upgrades (Mappers on the NES, all of the SNES hardware in general... etc).    Now that we're beyond that, we can just enjoy kickass Mario games.

It's funny, noone was this flustered about MegaMan being basically the same game since the first one...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 20, 2012, 07:49:49 AM
So does anyone know if the media streaming goes to the tablet controller?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 20, 2012, 07:52:01 AM
I was watching demo videos in the Wii U shop thing and they were on bofe dem screens, yo.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 20, 2012, 08:53:21 AM
So what happens if someone's internet goes down in the lengthy time it takes to download 4+ gigs which is needed simply to make the system go online? Bricked console?  The fact that the thing needs 4+ GB of data just for the OS is pathetic. Talk about bloated. Maybe if they sized that down to 200 MB or so it would be a lot snappier (the menu is supposedly pretty slow).
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 20, 2012, 09:15:10 AM
So what happens if someone's internet goes down in the lengthy time it takes to download 4+ gigs which is needed simply to make the system go online? Bricked console?  The fact that the thing needs 4+ GB of data just for the OS is pathetic. Talk about bloated. Maybe if they sized that down to 200 MB or so it would be a lot snappier (the menu is supposedly pretty slow).
Losing internet != yanking power cord out because you want to tweet about how slow the thing is.   I'd imagine that if you lose internet but just let the thing sit there, eventually it will keep going.

My entire update took < 30 minutes.   The menu is not slow.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 20, 2012, 09:21:15 AM
I want this game
http://www.destructoid.com/review-mighty-switch-force-hyper-drive-edition-238916.phtml
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 20, 2012, 04:39:37 PM
I want this game
http://www.destructoid.com/review-mighty-switch-force-hyper-drive-edition-238916.phtml


Def plan on picking this up soon. I skipped out on the 3DS version. Way forward is an awesome developer. Also Zombi U is awesome. Don't believe these BS reviews that seem to think zombi U is an action game. Its not, its a survival horror game in the truest sense. You really feel helpless and that one mistake could cost you your life.Thats the way these games are supposed to make you feel.

This review describes the game very well - http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/32557
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: psychobear on November 20, 2012, 06:09:00 PM
My upgrade didn't take long either 35 minutes top... But who unplugs anything while doing an upgrade....
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 20, 2012, 06:29:35 PM
OK I walked into Target to buy some jeans and ended up buying a 32GB Wii U. This was not planned, it just kind of happened. I also bought 3 games because they were having a buy two and get the 3rd for half price thing. I bought everything in the electronics section and then I returned Batman Arkham City at the Guest Services because I just didn't want it right now and got the full $60 back, so I bought one game at full price and paid half price for the second. Ha! They had a lot of systems. No need to preorder.

We were all laughing at the people who bought the 8GB unit. A few of them committed suicide as we laughed at them because they were so poor. It was great. One of them tried to tell us that the system looks better in white because it's Nintendo. We told them that being white is no longer cool and everyone hates you if you're white these days. That person ended up committing suicide as well. It was funny.

OK that second paragraph was nonsensical but back to reality. I do have the system and can speak from experience.  The initial firmware update took FOREVER! My internet speed is 35+mbps and the lights were barely flashing on the router, so the issue must be on Nintendo's end.  But I got it done and everything set up.  The Wii U menu is indeed super clunky and slow. Maybe my brain is too fast for the system? If my brain was slower I might not mind so much. There's lots of icons at the bottom I can choose but I don't know what they are because they are not accompanied by any text whatsoever. Kind of an unintuitive design.  While online it says the game I am currently playing is "private" but I have no clue how to change that. It wouldn't even let me send friend requests until I had a friends list set up. But I had to search the internet to find out how to do that. It turns out I have to press the HOME button (which to me means "EXIT what you are doing now and return to the HOME menu"). Not sure why it couldn't be set up right there in the MiiVerse when I tried to send someone a friend request. Why does that even need to be initiated in the first place? It's kind of like being logged in on Facebook and then Facebook asks you "Oh you want friends?  You'll need a Facebook account which you already have. Go do that and then come back and request friends".  Pretty stupid, really.

Also, the Wii U's Xbox360 controller cannot be used in Nintendo Proper games, only 3rd party games. That's pretty lame. The new Mario game doesn't use the touch screen for ANYTHING but still won't let you use the Xbox 360 controller. LAME! But it lets you use a WiiMote? WTF? Teh Ghey.

So far the graphics are OK and nothing special nor anything really to complain about. Haven't seen anything better than PS3 or Xbox360 stuffs yet. The sound is fine but I recommend turning the volume of the Wii U Pad all the way down if you use it as the built-in speakers are annoyingly low-fi and tinny. I have heard ZERO discrete subwoofer so far. Can the Wii U do subwoofer? Yes I have enabled surround in the Wii U menu (and the controller menu but that doesn't count). Maybe I just don't have any games that use it, but Sonic racing definitely should. The first one did on the PS3 I think. Also you cannot turn the Wii U pad video off if you are using it to play so it will drain batteries SUPAFAST even though in a game like New Supa Mario Rehash 2 you quite literally NEVER look at the controller screen. WTF? Make this shit betta, Nintenda.

I'm all gangsta yo. Aight. Dat mayks me legit. wurd 2 ur mutha g.

EDIT: Typos. Lots of typos.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 21, 2012, 02:06:41 AM
The new Mario game doesn't use the touch screen for ANYTHING but still won't let you use the Xbox 360 controller. LAME! But it lets you use a WiiMote? WTF? Teh Ghey.

Boost Rush mode. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 02:27:20 AM
OK that second paragraph was nonsensical but back to reality. I do have the system and can speak from experience.  The initial firmware update took FOREVER! My internet speed is 35+mbps and the lights were barely flashing on the router, so the issue must be on Nintendo's end.  But I got it done and everything set up.  The Wii U menu is indeed super clunky and slow. Maybe my brain is too fast for the system? If my brain was slower I might not mind so much.
What exactly is meant by "super clunky and slow"?   You poke a thing, the thing does something.   The menus work as fast as any other pokey-touch interfaces.   The shop menu/interface is a f*ckload cooler than the 360 or PS3 ones.   Shit happens quickly.


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There's lots of icons at the bottom I can choose but I don't know what they are because they are not accompanied by any text whatsoever. Kind of an unintuitive design. 
They correspond to the stuff on the big TV where text accompanies them.  I'm not sure what's unintuitive about this.  Did you hold the controller to your face and ignore the real TV? :)


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It wouldn't even let me send friend requests until I had a friends list set up.
Duh.

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But I had to search the internet to find out how to do that. It turns out I have to press the HOME button (which to me means "EXIT what you are doing now and return to the HOME menu"). Not sure why it couldn't be set up right there in the MiiVerse when I tried to send someone a friend request. Why does that even need to be initiated in the first place? It's kind of like being logged in on Facebook and then Facebook asks you "Oh you want friends?  You'll need a Facebook account which you already have. Go do that and then come back and request friends".  Pretty stupid, really.
What's stupid is you had to go online to figure out something that simple.  Also, the point of having the friends list separate should be obvious.  If it's not, I dunno what to tell you.   Pay more attention, or something.


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Also, the Wii U's Xbox360 controller cannot be used in Nintendo Proper games, only 3rd party games. That's pretty lame. The new Mario game doesn't use the touch screen for ANYTHING but still won't let you use the Xbox 360 controller. LAME! But it lets you use a WiiMote? WTF? Teh Ghey.
This is funny, mostly because NSMBU shows you what the giant controller/touchscreen does with a MASSIVE PICTURE ON THE SCREEN.   I am convinced you close your eyes while playing games, because the image that shows you the controller thing and mentions BOOST mode takes up the entire f*cking screen, dude.


Old people are funny.  Everyone else is having fun and you're complaining about dumb shit.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Necromancer on November 21, 2012, 02:43:27 AM
Christ, you sound like Zeta - "Oh noes, someone's saying something negative about Nintendo!"
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 02:44:13 AM
Christ, you sound like Zeta - "Oh noes, someone's saying something negative about Nintendo!"

Its not really negative stuff about nintendo.  It's more like "I don't pay attention" stuff about Nintendo.

but, this is RoeJedifer, so I guess I shouldn't be shocked.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 21, 2012, 02:48:30 AM
I will agree with Joe that the menus are slow. It generally takes a good 15 seconds from the time you click on something until the time it pops up.

Also, not being able to access the Friends list from the main menu is f*cking retarded. The only way I've found to access it is by being in a game and then hitting Home > Friends Icon. Why that Friends Icon isn't listed on the main menu is beyond me. I mean, what if I log on and simply want to see what my friends are playing so I can maybe jump in a game with them? Doesn't seem possible at the moment.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 02:57:09 AM
I will agree with Joe that the menus are slow. It generally takes a good 15 seconds from the time you click on something until the time it pops up.

I have seriously not been experiencing this, nor has a friend, and a coworker who all have Wii Us.   That's odd.   I wonder if the thing is doing something network related to bounce around menus?  *shrug*   I notice that the games take a bit to boot up when they sit at the splash screen, though.  But, that seems normal for any console today..


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Also, not being able to access the Friends list from the main menu is f*cking retarded. The only way I've found to access it is by being in a game and then hitting Home > Friends Icon. Why that Friends Icon isn't listed on the main menu is beyond me. I mean, what if I log on and simply want to see what my friends are playing so I can maybe jump in a game with them? Doesn't seem possible at the moment.


http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/11/10-things/2/

Sounds like Joe, lol.  although, I would like to know how you can display a movie better on a touchpad thing with an Xbox.  The article says you can.


I dunno, while people have been complaining about dumb shit that is secondary to playing games, I've just been pounding Mario's ass all night.

and that Chasing Aurorororororora game in the Wii Shop.  That shit is cool as f*ck.  It's like Origami ADD Flight Adventure 9000.




It also seems fairly normal that <1 week into the launch of a brand new console, that there are some goofy quirks and things that aren't ready yet.  That happened with all of the next gen consoles that have menus and bullshit floating around.

All I say to that is, shut the f*ck up and play a game on the thing.  


I get the feeling this is the new Dreamcast.   You either love it, or you hate it.   
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 21, 2012, 03:23:26 AM
Have you guys tried any Wii games on it?

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 03:38:51 AM
Have you guys tried any Wii games on it?



Yea, I played Kirby Return to Dreamland on it, and Lost in Shadow.

Works like a champ.  It also isn't a massively painful wait to get into Wii mode.

Who the f*ck sits and times how long it takes to boot into a game mode.   

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 21, 2012, 03:41:44 AM
I have seriously not been experiencing this, nor has a friend, and a coworker who all have Wii Us.   That's odd.   I wonder if the thing is doing something network related to bounce around menus?  *shrug*   I notice that the games take a bit to boot up when they sit at the splash screen, though.  But, that seems normal for any console today..


Everything I've read about it (impressions from game sites) have said the same thing: the shit takes a long-ass time to load, relatively speaking.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/11/10-things/2/

Sounds like Joe, lol.  although, I would like to know how you can display a movie better on a touchpad thing with an Xbox.  The article says you can.


I think his complaint was that you can't watch it on both simultaneously. Not a huge deal, IMO, but would've been a nice feature, I guess.


I get the feeling this is the new Dreamcast.   You either love it, or you hate it.    


What kind of a$$hole hated the Dreamcast?

Have you guys tried any Wii games on it?


Not yet. Just Virtual Console games.

Yea, I played Kirby Return to Dreamland on it, and Lost in Shadow.

Works like a champ.  It also isn't a massively painful wait to get into Wii mode.

Who the f*ck sits and times how long it takes to boot into a game mode.


Well, compared to the Wii playing GameCube games, where you - you know - just popped in a disc without having to click on a special "GameCube Mode" and wait for it to load, then select your game, it sure seems a bit cumbersome.

Anyway, I'm not bagging on the WiiU by any means. I love it so far. But they do have a few things to iron out over the coming months, that's for sure.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 03:54:52 AM
Everything I've read about it (impressions from game sites) have said the same thing: the shit takes a long-ass time to load, relatively speaking.
Relative to what?   It's a dumb thing to complain about, especially because it's not even slow unless you're writing a blog about it.


The booting into Wii mode is nice to me.  It's like having two systems hooked up, except ones shoved in the other.

When I boot up a PS1 game on the PS3, it's not super fast either.   and I have to go f*ck with the goofy memorycard maker thing and then if I want to back that up I have to go manually do it.    Big f*cking Deal.


f*ckers need to get off the whaaambulance and just play the games.    I wonder what these people like about the Wii U other than giving them ability to go online and whine like pros.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 21, 2012, 04:14:42 AM


Have you guys tried any Wii games on it?

Not yet. Just Virtual Console games.



Can you play those on the tablet alone or are you still tethered to the TV?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 21, 2012, 04:23:01 AM
The shit's slow, man. Relative to anything. If I click on an App or a category on the 360, it takes about .2 seconds to pop up. Same with most things on the iPad. The WiiU takes at least 15 seconds with each of their categories. It's not whining. It's fact. You said it works as fast as any other device. It doesn't. Not that I care; I'm just pointing it out.

Pointing out a few minor complaints doesn't equate to "whining". The console's not perfect. But what console is? (Other than the Duo, of course). Especially at launch.

Can you play those on the tablet alone or are you still tethered to the TV?

Still tethered to the TV because in order to access Virtual Console games you have to go to Wii mode. You can't access them at all from the WiiU. That's apparently supposed to change at some point, but I have no idea when.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 21, 2012, 04:38:04 AM


Can you play those on the tablet alone or are you still tethered to the TV?

Still tethered to the TV because in order to access Virtual Console games you have to go to Wii mode. You can't access them at all from the WiiU. That's apparently supposed to change at some point, but I have no idea when.

Hopefully they do change that, I can understand Wii games not being able to be played that way, but VC games totally should.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 05:13:05 AM
The stuff on the internet I keep seeing is definitely whiny.   A bunch of stupid know it all bloggers and morons crying about dumbshit without ever talking about the key component:  The games themselves.


Also, I dunno, the stuff really isn't that slow over here.  I'll go check again when I get a chance today, but I swear it didn't go ultra slow and make me want to go on twitter and tell the planet.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 21, 2012, 06:02:28 AM
I know this is completely against your personality, but I think you're being overly-critical. ;) If your job was to write about the ins and outs of a console, are you supposed to ignore discussing the things you don't like about it? I'm no fan of the so-called "gaming press", but pointing out the WiiU's shortcomings in the context of "here's what the WiiU does well and not so well" is kind of the whole point.

@Nando: The fact that you have to go into Wii mode to access Virtual Console games is pretty stupid. I realize there's supposedly an update coming, so I'll reserve judgment until then. But if the update doesn't allow seamless play of your VC titles w/out having to f*ck with Wii mode or - god forbid - purchasing them over again, I'll be really annoyed.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 21, 2012, 06:41:51 AM
On a far more positive note, this is why MiiVerse is awesome:
http://kotaku.com/5962331/the-weird-insane-often-funny-art-of-miiverse

Also, speaking of MiiVerse, I discovered yesterday that if you get stuck/have a question/or just find something cool in a game, you can post a screenshot from your game pad to MiiVerse and get tips or whatever. That is a f*cking awesome feature! All you have to do is hit the Home button, select MiiVerse, and then post a new message. Then, click on the Image icon, and the screenshot will automatically appear. So cool...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 21, 2012, 07:15:28 AM
so Nintendo is really trying to do their own social media bit eh? I like that Mii verse feature, reads pretty cool.  The art is just funny as hell.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 07:28:27 AM
I know this is completely against your personality, but I think you're being overly-critical. ;) If your job was to write about the ins and outs of a console, are you supposed to ignore discussing the things you don't like about it? I'm no fan of the so-called "gaming press", but pointing out the WiiU's shortcomings in the context of "here's what the WiiU does well and not so well" is kind of the whole point.

Some of these people, it isn't their job.  It's just their self-given task for the evening.

and I've seen way too many THIS IS WHY IT SUCKS articles and posts.   These people aren't being very balanced with their jive.   It's a bunch of whining followed by ZERO comments about games themselves.

f*ck those people.  Get them off the internet and throw them in a hole somewhere.

It's the height of stupidity to write an entire article or post complaining about a game console without mentioning any games.


also, yes, Miiverse is awesome.

Funny Kotaku posted it, because usually those f*ckfarts are the ones complaining or posting some srsly tarded crap.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 21, 2012, 07:33:23 AM
so speaking of games. Mario is awesome, or so I have heard. Even if some of it is the same old same old. What are some other worthwhile launch games? That scribblenauts games looks like fun too.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 07:36:45 AM
so speaking of games. Mario is awesome, or so I have heard. Even if some of it is the same old same old. What are some other worthwhile launch games? That scribblenauts games looks like fun too.


All of the launch games I've tried so far are actually pretty solid.

Mario is extremely fun.  It gives you that same fuzzy, exciting feeling as Mario 3 or SMW.

ZombiU's complaints are thrown out there by FPStards.   This is basically Resident Evil in first person.  It's slow paced and hard.   It's a great launch title trying something new.

Scribblenauts is bitchin as f*ck.  Its scribblenauts.

Epic Mickey is another excellent platformer game.

That's what I've tried so far, and its better than the launch 360, PS3, Wii, 3DS, and even the Vita launches so far.

You basically get right into playing without having to f*ck around.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 21, 2012, 07:50:00 AM
Nintendo Land is great fun, and I already talked about Mario before.

I'm really wanting to get Scribblenauts, but not sure if I want to shell out $60 for a new version of a game that costs $1 on the iPad. I also want to grab ZombiU.

OH! Someone asked about Rayman Legends. There are demos in stores, and if you liked Rayman Origins, this is more of that, but even better. The game comes out next year, I think.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 21, 2012, 09:35:44 AM
Ha ha Arkhan I typed most of the things I did in the tone I did because I knew you'd go apeshit trying to defend it. But still, most of what I said definitely has some truth to it. Stop being blind to the flaws, many of which can probably be fixed with future massive OS updates. Nothing wrong with liking the system, but it has a ways to go before it is equal in quality to the PS3. The graphics in the games I played are lower resolution than the PS3 and 360 stuff. NSMBU should look as crisp as Rayman on the PS3, but it does not. I'd be surprised if it were actually being rendered in more than something like 540 or 640p at most and then upscaled. Like I believe I already may have said, it doesn't look any crisper than the gamepad screen. Jaggies galore.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 10:23:26 AM
Ha ha Arkhan I typed most of the things I did in the tone I did because I knew you'd go apeshit trying to defend it.
Oh really? I couldn't tell.  You're a master of trickery.



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But still, most of what I said definitely has some truth to it. Stop being blind to the flaws, many of which can probably be fixed with future massive OS updates. Nothing wrong with liking the system, but it has a ways to go before it is equal in quality to the PS3.
I'm not blind to flaws.  I am dismissive of them because they're insignificant kinks.  They're not even worth griping about.  Especially the "Top 10 things I hate" style crap online.   <1week into the systems life, the only real things you should complain about are:

1) The games suck and are not fun (Which is completely false at this point.  The launch library is pretty kickass.  Much better than the 360 and PS3 had at launch, for example).

Of course it has a ways to go before its equal in quality to a system that's been out for as long as the PS3.   Duhhhh.  

When I see gripes about games for the Wii U, that's fine.  I don't mind.  It's acceptable and I probably won't jump to defense mode.  

Griping about stupid shit like I CAN'T DO THE THING IN THE MENU YET or THIS FEATURE IS DUMB its like, who cares.  Did you buy the Wii U to play video games or to fingerf*ck yourself in a bunch of menus all day?   I got it so I could play games.  If the thing had 0 menus and just went straight into games, I'd be fine.  I bet everyone else would have strokes.

Complaints that give off the air that you just aren't paying attention are also pretty funny.  You make it sound like you want to be spoon fed everything like a 5 year old sometimes, and other times you assert that you are smart as f*ck.   Little kids figured out boost mode in NSMBU.  It's in the instructions probably.  I can't be sure of this because I didn't read the manual.  I just used the giant on-screen cue to learn of this feature.  

Same with the friendslist.   Found it by exploring the on screen menus that have text saying what things are.  Tunnel vision isn't a valid excuse for complaints.  

I don't even know what the f*ck WiiTV is exactly, to be honest.   I also don't give a f*ck about all these MiiVerse problems since I didn't get a Wii U to socialize with tools on the internet while I am jumping on turtles.

I also honestly don't feel like the menu is slow and awful and makes me want to kill myself.  It certainly isn't slow enough that I want to get online and piss and moan about it.   If I don't want to complain about it, chances are its not that bad.  I fire the f*cker up, and before my TV is even fully activated, the Wii U is already making Mario noises and shit.


Maybe that's it.   I don't notice because I am waiting for my TV to do shit.  

I should go online and tweet about how my Sony TV takes too long to turn on because it can sense that I am using a Nintendo product.


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The graphics in the games I played are lower resolution than the PS3 and 360 stuff. NSMBU should look as crisp as Rayman on the PS3, but it does not. I'd be surprised if it were actually being rendered in more than something like 540 or 640p at most and then upscaled. Like I believe I already may have said, it doesn't look any crisper than the gamepad screen. Jaggies galore.

Hmm. I don't see jagged stuff in NSMBU.  I spotted a few graphical herpderps on the world map at one point but it wasn't anything you don't see in current PS3 games.  Clipping hiccups are normal as f*ck.  


Trine 2 looks great as well, as does that origami bird flying game, Scribblenauts, and even ZombiU.  For launch games, they look great.  It's only going to get better from here, and considering how nice the stuff already is, I'd say that's a good sign.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 21, 2012, 11:05:05 AM
Quote from: Arkhan
Oh really? I couldn't tell.
Again responding exactly as I predicted!

Are you playing in standard definition? Or are you sitting far away from your TV? Lots of jaggies in Mario. And the point with the friend list is that you shouldn't even have to go turn it on. It's an unnecessary step. But you seem to be really emotional about defending it, so oh well. And as for the menu being slow we're not talking about the initial boot time.

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Duhhhh.
Are you one of those 12 year olds on Xbox Live who always talks about my mom or tries to insult her? I feel like I'm talking to a 5th grader. But again, it's what you do who you are. That's your defense mechanism whenever someone criticizes something you like.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 12:43:23 PM
Again responding exactly as I predicted!
I'm glad you feel accomplished that you can predict exactly how someone will post.  You're a real f*ckin' Sherlock here, guessing how people with 9000+ posts will respond.    Big deal.  Do you want a cookie?  It's not impressive.  You don't see me patting myself on the back when you post in the same predictable, patented "JoeRedifer, the clueless retard." manner. 

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Are you playing in standard definition? Or are you sitting far away from your TV? Lots of jaggies in Mario. And the point with the friend list is that you shouldn't even have to go turn it on. It's an unnecessary step. But you seem to be really emotional about defending it, so oh well. And as for the menu being slow we're not talking about the initial boot time.
no, I am playing on a 55" Sony Bravia.  I am sitting about 4 feet away from the screen.  How about you?  It looks great over here.  Everyone I've spoken to except for you seems to agree.  That puts you in the minority, so I dismiss your criticism.   You can see a clear difference between the Wii era Mario games and NSMBU.   Shit looks excellent.  As do the other games I've tried.    What games have you tried?  Or, are you still trying to wrap your head around how to turn the thing off and on without yanking the cord out of the outlet?

Also, I understand that we are not talking about the boot time.  My point is, I don't notice much about the menus because I am too busy playing GAMES ASAP on it as opposed to fingerblasting myself while complaining about stupid shit.   What kind of gamer focuses on dumb shit that is irrelevant to playing the video games?   Retarded ones.    My goal when I turn on a game console is to get the game going as close to immediately as possible so I can play. 

From what I did experience of all the menus, especially the shop ones, they weren't slow to me.  I was like "hey this is neat.  I might investigate these menus in greater detail later, but I really want to play a f*cking video game instead of jackoff in these menus watching preview trailers all day.  Oh! I better turn this buddy list on real fast though!  Man that was easy.   I wonder what kind of jackass would get stumped by this feature."

Speaking of the friends list, some people don't want to be social.  I know this is hard to grasp from someone who's got such a strong media presence like you do, but there ARE people who really don't give a f*ck about interacting with the rest of the world while gaming.  That's my guess as to why you have to go activate it.  The gripers so far are mostly people who have their dicks so far up into social networking's snatch that they're poking tonsils.

This concept is very much like how you have to activate the Facebook stuff, or how you have to turn AIM on and voluntarily make yourself visible.   It makes sense, and it didn't f*cking hurt to turn it on, so why even bring it up?    I'm not emotional about anything.   This is just how I tend to talk about things (It's also how a lot of people in my age bracket talk.  Hah. You are old.).  It is frustrating how stupid some people are with regards to video game consoles and their features.  "THIS FEATURE DOESN'T APPLY EXACTLY TO ME SO I BETTER f*ckING COMPLAIN ABOUT IT".    FFS, STFU.   Play games or gtfo.  Seriously.

Like that assclown who posted about how Mario games should be.  f*ck that guy.  What the hell does he know?  "The mushroom kingdom should be different with each Mario game".  f*ck off, duder.


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I feel like I'm talking to a 5th grader. But again, it's what you do who you are.
well, with snippets like this, I feel like I am talking to an inbred autistic child.

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That's your defense mechanism whenever someone criticizes something you like.

No.  See, that is where you mistake things, as usual, because you never pay attention.  This is not a "defense mechanism".   This is just me posting my usual, abrasive response to someone complaining about stupid shit.   Your usual is to make comments that shout out "Hi, I am Joe Redifer.  I'm a f*cking retard and never pay attention to anything."   You have a pretty solid habit of being completely oblivious.  I can think of at least 5 times.

Seriously Joe, you're like HURHUARHAURHAURH THE BIG TOUCH CONTROLLER AINT DO NOTHIN IN MARIO CAUSE f*ck.

They have a gigantic goddamn picture showing you that it does something.  So the fact that you missed this means you're a retard.  That or you're just f*cking around, which still makes you a retard.

All the people that needed to refer to the googlemachines to get the friendslist to work are also f*cking retarded. 


Everyone is a retard.  f*ck yeah.

So seriously now, what do you think of the ACTUAL GAMES.  Not all the stupid foofoo shit that is irrelevant.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 21, 2012, 01:02:03 PM
LOL!

The games are OK. Mario is Mario. Sonic Racing All Stars seems unfinished. I'll have to try the 360 or PS3 version to see if it's better. It probably is. I haven't touched Nintendo Land yet.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 01:05:23 PM
You should try ZombiU.

Though, you have to pay attention to two screens at once, so that might throw you for a loop.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 21, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
It might. But I'm not really interested in it. If they had a demo I'd definitely try it. I will agree with you though that the eShop functions pretty damn well. Hopefully soon they'll have demos.

The games I'm interested in are Nintendo exclusives and also multiplatform games that are better on the Wii U than they are on the Xbox 360 and PS3 because of the small but likely noticeable technical advantage it will have when developers figure their shit out.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 01:16:53 PM
I see great possibilities for a Star Fox game.

the touchpad could have radar and shit
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: 8bitForLife on November 21, 2012, 01:46:05 PM
the easiest way to add people is through miiverse and use the search function then when you add them that way the other person sees the friend invite.

Add me 8bitForLife
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on November 21, 2012, 01:59:21 PM
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Like that assclown who posted about how Mario games should be.  f*ck that guy.  What the hell does he know?  "The mushroom kingdom should be different with each Mario game".  f*ck off, duder.

Having a Mushroom Kingdom that feels refreshing with each new game isn't some retarded notion I have. I experienced the Mario magic back in '86 and with each subsequent game it always felt like I was experiencing something new and original. I know it can happen in this era because Super Mario Galaxy did it in spectacular fashion. Sorry if I offended you, man, but do we really need to go there?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 21, 2012, 02:30:44 PM
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Like that assclown who posted about how Mario games should be.  f*ck that guy.  What the hell does he know?  "The mushroom kingdom should be different with each Mario game".  f*ck off, duder.

Having a Mushroom Kingdom that feels refreshing with each new game isn't some retarded notion I have. I experienced the Mario magic back in '86 and with each subsequent game it always felt like I was experiencing something new and original. I know it can happen in this era because Super Mario Galaxy did it in spectacular fashion. Sorry if I offended you, man, but do we really need to go there?

youre not the assclown, dingus.

The article writer is.

lol.

none of that was directed at you.

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on November 21, 2012, 02:48:27 PM
I played the one player Nintendoland games... I'll probably never play the fzero, ninja stars, and yoshi games again. I'm assuming the multiplayer is where it's at as expected. The DK game was fun though- I could see playing it 'one more time' for hours.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on November 21, 2012, 03:10:33 PM
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Like that assclown who posted about how Mario games should be.  f*ck that guy.  What the hell does he know?  "The mushroom kingdom should be different with each Mario game".  f*ck off, duder.

Having a Mushroom Kingdom that feels refreshing with each new game isn't some retarded notion I have. I experienced the Mario magic back in '86 and with each subsequent game it always felt like I was experiencing something new and original. I know it can happen in this era because Super Mario Galaxy did it in spectacular fashion. Sorry if I offended you, man, but do we really need to go there?

youre not the assclown, dingus.

The article writer is.

lol.

none of that was directed at you.



Heh cool. *hugs* :)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 21, 2012, 07:25:17 PM
Played more Zombi U last night. Man are these reviewers out there stupid. The game is great. I made it to a second check point last night, and i had such a feeling of relieve. It was like a weight was lifted off me. i had to play super cautiously, and i almost died a few times, But i was just so happy that my character got to save (sleep).
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 21, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
Finally played Nintendo Land tonight. Most of it was crap and I don't recommend owners of the basic system shell out $60 for it. It's basically "Wii Play", a bunch of demos. However there is balloon Trip Breeze included on the disc and it is awesome. Just like the classic but updated for the new millennium! It's like a DS game, but better!

Here's a screenshot of me playing this awesome game. (http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/balloonfightbreeze.jpg)

I've been hearing that Tank Tank Tank is pretty good. Anyone played it?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: esteban on November 21, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Finally played Nintendo Land tonight. Most of it was crap and I don't recommend owners of the basic system shell out $60 for it. It's basically "Wii Play", a bunch of demos. However there is balloon Trip Breeze included on the disc and it is awesome. Just like the classic but updated for the new millennium! It's like a DS game, but better!

Here's a screenshot of me playing this awesome game. (http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/balloonfightbreeze.jpg)

I've been hearing that Tank Tank Tank is pretty good. Anyone played it?


Balloon Fight looks awesome. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on November 22, 2012, 10:10:25 AM
Finally played Nintendo Land tonight. Most of it was crap and I don't recommend owners of the basic system shell out $60 for it. It's basically "Wii Play", a bunch of demos. However there is balloon Trip Breeze included on the disc and it is awesome. Just like the classic but updated for the new millennium! It's like a DS game, but better!

Here's a screenshot of me playing this awesome game. (http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/balloonfightbreeze.jpg)

I've been hearing that Tank Tank Tank is pretty good. Anyone played it?


Tank Tank Tank, is that the game with all the Contra references & Contra'ish music?  I have it on PS3, though maybe I'm thinking of a differnet game, & I'm too lazy to check atm. :P
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on November 22, 2012, 03:25:20 PM
My girlfriend and I played Mario for an hour, was fun to get her on a game for once.  I admit the game is nowhere near as good looking as Rayman, but I hardly see any jaggies.

Scribblenauts has been awesome.  I am nearing the end, so I am a little bummed, but it has been a blast.

Played one game of NBA 2K13 today and it was solid.  No better or worse than the PS3 version, so it is refreshing to see developers doing so well with the system so early.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 22, 2012, 03:55:06 PM
The jaggies are definitely there. But I look for those things. Anyway I found that putting the Wii U in 720p definitely helps it to look better, at least for these initial games. The TV has a much better upscaler than the Wii U does. When (and if) they actually start making games in 1080p I'll set it back. Nintendo won't release all of the specs so they must have something to hide. I'm betting we're gonna get a lot of 720p games like the PS3 and Xbox 360 with a few 1080p games here and there.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 23, 2012, 02:24:09 AM
My WiiU locked up about four times last night when playing Nintendo Land. Anyone else have this problem? It's locked up before, but this was the first time it did it consistently. My son and I were trying to play another game of Luigi's Ghost Mansion, and each time we entered the door, the game would freeze and the console made a horrendous screeching noise.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: td741 on November 23, 2012, 06:43:37 AM
If anyone wants to see Trine 2 for the WiiU you can watch it here (720p) recording: .

Here's a video of the first six levels of Mighty Switch Force: Hyperdrive Edition:  .

Edit: Updated Mighty Switch Force link and edited Trine 2.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on November 23, 2012, 06:58:13 AM
My WiiU locked up about four times last night when playing Nintendo Land. Anyone else have this problem? It's locked up before, but this was the first time it did it consistently. My son and I were trying to play another game of Luigi's Ghost Mansion, and each time we entered the door, the game would freeze and the console made a horrendous screeching noise.

Haven't frozen up yet.  Hopefully this locks aren't a sign of things to come.  :/
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 23, 2012, 09:58:08 AM
I downloaded Chasing Aurora and played a bit of it in single player. It's...uh...disappointing. Actually kinda boring. I need to play it in multiplayer, though. Hopefully that's better.

Anyone play Nano-whatever yet?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on November 24, 2012, 11:31:18 AM
My ID is Futureman. Add me :)
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 24, 2012, 12:37:21 PM
my Wii U froze up on my twice. I had it vertical. I have been playing it now horizontally, and haven't noticed anything. What about you guys ?

Ohh my Nintendo ID:Munchi
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on November 24, 2012, 02:36:04 PM
froze up twice on nintendoland- removed my wifi info and it worked fine. I hear that it has something to do with certain characters used in messages and mii names when you're online. Patch incoming I would imagine.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 25, 2012, 05:49:54 AM
I read that there's supposedly a system update coming this week. Who knows? I had mine vertical when it crashed. I've had it laying flat for the past couple days with no problems.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on November 25, 2012, 05:52:20 AM
No crashes for me yet.  Always had it horizontal, not sure if that was the reason.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on November 25, 2012, 02:03:44 PM
So i downloaded Mighty switch force Hyper drive edition last night. The game is awesome so far. I love the fact that its very pickup and play friendly. Also theres a good amount of replay value trying to speed run each stage and beat the set time. I def recommend it.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on November 27, 2012, 12:25:39 AM
Bloody hell, you've all got one!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 27, 2012, 01:17:44 AM
Bloody hell, you've all got one!

You know Nintendo is mass producing them beasts quickly and hard!

I'm gonna wait til after ze ol holidaze to get one. I want a MARIO KART GAME, DAMN IT!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: td741 on November 28, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
For those that are interested in the backwards compatibility of the Wii U, here's a quick video I put together:
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SegaSaturn51195 on November 28, 2012, 04:22:04 PM
I have a white Wii U with Ninja Gaiden 3 and I'm loving the system so far. The game is hardcore and a big improvement from the 360 version. MiiVerse and the video apps add a lot to the system. The controller is very cool, sometimes I play while watching TV or doing something else. The eShop is quite basic for now but it has potential. I just have to format my 320gb hard drive for it or buy another hard drive to store downloaded games. I also don't like that your Nintendo ID is locked to the console, which makes me not really want to purchase downloadable games. I also lost my entire VC collection when I sold my Wii months back and Nintendo told me there's nothing they can do to recover my games even though my Nintendo ID is linked to my Club Nintendo account and I can see every purchased game. I didn't sell my Wii with my shop channel account still linked. I deleted the account so the new owner wouldn't have access to the games I bought. I just wanted Nintendo to change the license to my new Wii U/Wii mode but they wouldn't do it. I'm still fighting with them on the Nintendo tech boards. I actually lost 75 Virtual games, over $500 in games.

Add me: LSpear76
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on November 29, 2012, 12:35:35 AM
I also lost my entire VC collection when I sold my Wii months back and Nintendo told me there's nothing they can do to recover my games even though my Nintendo ID is linked to my Club Nintendo account and I can see every purchased game, I just wanted them to change the license to my new Wii U/Wii mode but they wouldn't do it.

This is why I won't buy any of their stuff, tempting though it is.  It's just too ephemeral.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 29, 2012, 01:37:36 AM
I didn't sell my Wii with my shop channel account still linked. I deleted the account so the new owner wouldn't have access to the games I bought. I just wanted Nintendo to change the license to my new Wii U/Wii mode but they wouldn't do it. I'm still fighting with them on the Nintendo tech boards. I actually lost 75 Virtual games, over $500 in games.

Add me: LSpear76

Well that's some bullshit. 
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on November 29, 2012, 03:04:33 AM
Yeah, the digital release stuff is BS- but I will probably buy games on the Shop that don't have a physical release... acquire coins, get some nintendo bs from the site... the towels look neat.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 29, 2012, 03:10:53 AM
I made that same mistake with my DSi, when I traded it in for the 3DS. Granted, it was only a few - kinda crappy - games. Nevertheless, they're gone forever!

The way it's set up now, though, is easier. Even though my Wii-to-WiiU transfer was somehow corrupted, I was still able to go in and re-download all my VC and WiiWare titles on my WiiU. It was a pain in the ass, but at least it was possible.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SegaSaturn51195 on November 29, 2012, 03:57:44 AM
Someone from Nintendo is calling me back tomorrow about this issue, hopefully allowing me to redownload the games on my Wii U through the Wii menu. If I have to get a new Wii and get Nintendo to transfer my games to that console, I'll do that. Then I'll transfer them to my Wii U. Or, they can just refund me 500,000 Wii Shop points (lol) and let me download the games again. Next time I'll be smart and just get the roms and an emulator for my Galaxy S3, hook my phone to my TV through HDMI, and play the games with a Bluetooth control pad. It would be nice to be able to play them on my Wii U since I already bought them.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 29, 2012, 04:11:57 AM
Is there a way to backup/save the Nintendo digital downloads externally?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: td741 on November 29, 2012, 04:38:58 AM
Is there a way to backup/save the Nintendo digital downloads externally?

You can transfer them to SD card and they are visible.  However, I think the VC/Wii Ware titles are locked to a particular console instead of an account.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: geise on November 29, 2012, 04:49:35 AM
Yep, locked to the system console.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 29, 2012, 04:56:01 AM
Yep, locked to the system console.

Ain't that some bullshit
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SegaSaturn51195 on November 29, 2012, 05:44:19 AM
Someone from Nintendo called me today and said they'll push it higher up to see if they can "make an exception" since I purchased so much content. I don't like their policy/user agreement. I only sold the Wii once I heard that it was backwards compatible and that you could play your Virtual Console/WiiWare games on the Wii U. I didn't stop to think that the purchases would still be locked to the console. My fault, I guess, but I can prove that I'm the one who owns the new Wii U and that I'm the one who purchased that games. They're linked to my Club Nintendo Account. They should just refund me the amount of points so I can repurchase them. I even said I would go buy a new regular Wii and send it to Nintendo so they can put my purchases on there. But since I deleted my Wii Shop account 5 months ago when I sold my Wii on Ebay, they said "too much time has passed." I told them I would wait for their response before I complain to the Better Business Bureau and possibly open a small claims case. We'll see what happens. I hate pouring so much time and money into a company that has policies that totally screw you over.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SegaSaturn51195 on November 29, 2012, 07:08:21 AM
Well, Nintendo called me back already and said they researched it as much as possible but there's nothing they can do, that their user agreement states that if you delete your shop channel account from the Wii console when you sell your Wii you can't retrieve your purchases on a new Wii or Wii U system. I'm out 70+ Virtual Console/WiiWare games, they can't transfer the purchases to my Wii U, to a new Wii if I would buy one, and they can't credit me any points to my Wii Shop account. I only sold the Wii after I read that you could play your VC/WiiWare purchases on the new Wii U system. I did not know you needed to use the transfer tool to go from Wii to Wii U. I'm going to add up the amount of money i spent on those 70+ games. Like it would really hurt their bottom line to add up the games I purchased and issue me a credit. Simply terrible. That's why I play Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 and not Nintendo products. :-(
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 29, 2012, 08:01:25 AM
To be fair, you basically assumed their system worked the same as a different system.   You should've just waited to see how it all worked before dumping/selling things, man.


Still, Hopefully they help you out. 
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SegaSaturn51195 on November 29, 2012, 08:03:44 AM
I'd even buy a new Wii and let Nintendo transfer my content, then I'll use the transfer tool to get it on my Wii U. But they won't even let me do that. I'll stick to Microsoft/Sony for now on when buying games online. Nintendo's policy is anti-consumer.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SegaSaturn51195 on November 29, 2012, 09:49:23 AM
I actually found the buyer of my console on Ebay. He bought it in July. I wrote him and asked if I can buy the console back. If I can buy the console back, the same serial number that I made the purchases from, there should be no reason why Nintendo can't help me get my games back on that account even though I deactivated the Wii Shop account. Right?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 29, 2012, 09:54:22 AM
I actually found the buyer of my console on Ebay. He bought it in July. I wrote him and asked if I can buy the console back. If I can buy the console back, the same serial number that I made the purchases from, there should be no reason why Nintendo can't help me get my games back on that account even though I deactivated the Wii Shop account. Right?

Find out before you blow money buying another Wii, lol
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 29, 2012, 11:01:31 AM
http://kotaku.com/5964432/hacker-says-hes-cracked-open-the-wii-u-cpu-is-nothing-to-write-home-about

"Hector Martin, he who put together the first open-source driver for Microsoft's Kinect two years ago, now says he's cracked open the Wii U.

He won't say what he did to get the details out of Nintendo's latest console, but he did tweet some juicy (and very, very technical) tidbits about the system"



It read to me like it's the SNES like design all over again?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SegaSaturn51195 on November 30, 2012, 02:02:36 AM
The buyer has agreed to send back the original Wii unit so I can possibly recover my games from the Wii Shop, then transfer them to my Wii U, then send the guy back his Wii. This should be interesting...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 30, 2012, 02:09:25 AM
The buyer has agreed to send back the original Wii unit so I can possibly recover my games from the Wii Shop, then transfer them to my Wii U, then send the guy back his Wii. This should be interesting...

HA. KI. SACK!

Hope it all goes smoothly.

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Necromancer on November 30, 2012, 02:19:02 AM
http://kotaku.com/5964432/hacker-says-hes-cracked-open-the-wii-u-cpu-is-nothing-to-write-home-about


Meh, it's the GPU that's most important anyway.  I'm not surprised it's not all that powerful, though, not with the tiny case and limited airflow.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on November 30, 2012, 02:26:05 AM
Personally: I couldn't give a shit less how powerful it is. Are the games going to be fun? Yes? Good enough for me.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on November 30, 2012, 03:53:34 AM
http://kotaku.com/5964432/hacker-says-hes-cracked-open-the-wii-u-cpu-is-nothing-to-write-home-about


Meh, it's the GPU that's most important anyway.  I'm not surprised it's not all that powerful, though, not with the tiny case and limited airflow.


Yep.  and the GPU in it can do some pretty cool shit.

Heck, the Wii could too, with its displacement mapping.

its just most of the games were all cartoony and you couldnt tell.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on November 30, 2012, 04:10:57 AM
Just to chime in my $0.2 on the guy with the VC issue; I feel your pain man, the ridiculous policy is why I only splurged out for some essential shit like Megaman 9.  They could have had tonnes of cash with a decent service.

Anyway, if it doesn't work out, you might be able to convince them to give you ambassador status.  At least that way you'll get a bit back.  And it's not like they aren't handing those out.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SegaSaturn51195 on November 30, 2012, 04:29:18 AM
Ambassador status? What's that?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on November 30, 2012, 10:56:34 AM
http://kotaku.com/5964432/hacker-says-hes-cracked-open-the-wii-u-cpu-is-nothing-to-write-home-about


Meh, it's the GPU that's most important anyway.  I'm not surprised it's not all that powerful, though, not with the tiny case and limited airflow.


True, as long as it doesn't pull a SuperGrafx...
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on December 01, 2012, 04:21:35 AM
Ambassador status? What's that?

Isn't that just for the 3DS? I thought that was for the early-adopters who got all of the "free" NES and GBA games when Nintendo dropped the 3DS's price last summer.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on December 01, 2012, 07:55:19 AM
I was playing Mario last night with my girlfriend.  I had a full charged gamepad...  after 2 1/2 hours, the battery had died.

I was getting nearly 4 hours out of the box when I first played the system and now 2 1/2?  That's not very promising...

Nyko is coming out with some Frankenstein shit that goes on the back of the gamepad to double the batter life.  I need to either get one of these things or an extension cord.  Do you guys think there could be any negative impact gaming with an extension cord on the Gamepad?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: soop on December 02, 2012, 11:20:26 PM
Ambassador status? What's that?

Isn't that just for the 3DS? I thought that was for the early-adopters who got all of the "free" NES and GBA games when Nintendo dropped the 3DS's price last summer.

They also did one for the Wii.  A convuluted affair whereby you had to help 10 other people to connect their Wii to the Internet, and then swap friend codes as proof.  That one netted you every NES game.  They may have expanded it to 20 and every SNES game if memory serves.

So basically, they're handing out half of their catalogue to people for free anyway.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on December 03, 2012, 01:43:22 AM
Do you guys think there could be any negative impact gaming with an extension cord on the Gamepad?

Only if you have cats or children that will get tangled in the cord, lol
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: glazball on December 04, 2012, 12:46:29 AM
  Arkhan, I believe I read you bought the basic white system, same as me.  (I agree, black doesn't look right for a Nintendo console unless it's N64).  I'm curious how much drive space you have left after the initial firmware update.  I'm reading different things, some saying it takes up 1GB, some 3 or 4GB (basically half the internal storage).
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on December 04, 2012, 02:44:26 AM
I don't know.  I didn't look.   I put a 32gb SD card in before powering it on, so I really ain't give no f*cks about the internal size.


ill check later today though, lol
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on December 04, 2012, 03:05:58 AM
I hooked up a 2 TB HD to mine I got for $50 on Black Friday and it works like a champ.

I almost always buy my games physical, so I assume I end up using like 10 GB, but storage is so cheap I figured better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Bernie on January 07, 2013, 09:35:03 AM
Got mine today, and I love it!!  They put a lot of thought into the controller, even though it is big.  It fits really nicely in your hands, and I like it.  I also bought a couple Wii U Pro controllers, and they are really nice.  My registered name is debuttho, so add the Bernie if you wanna.  :) 
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on January 07, 2013, 12:09:06 PM
Wii U Pro Controllers are pretty good, though the lack of analog on the shoulder is nonsense.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SnethSS on January 07, 2013, 02:58:59 PM
TVii has saved me endless headaches with the girlfriend.  I think this feature is only going to get better in the future.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on January 07, 2013, 03:26:20 PM
TVii finally works? I haven't powered my WiiU on in about 5 or 6 months now. Will have to see what changes have been made.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on January 07, 2013, 04:28:06 PM
TVii finally works? I haven't powered my WiiU on in about 5 or 6 months now. Will have to see what changes have been made.

How in the hell have you owned a Wii U for that long?  :P
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Duo_R on January 07, 2013, 05:02:28 PM
You guys are making me want one of these. I have also been humored by how Ark defends this system to the end! I thought Ark would find something bad about this system lol
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on January 07, 2013, 10:18:21 PM
TVii finally works? I haven't powered my WiiU on in about 5 or 6 months now. Will have to see what changes have been made.

How in the hell have you owned a Wii U for that long?  :P

Oops! I guess it only seems like 5 or 6 months. Sometimes I forget I have it. Have any new games come out since launch?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on January 08, 2013, 01:53:13 AM
Wii U Pro Controllers are pretty good, though the lack of analog on the shoulder is nonsense.

Agree 100%. I can't believe they didn't include those.

Anybody play the Rayman demo? It's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Mathius on January 08, 2013, 02:51:08 AM
TVii finally works? I haven't powered my WiiU on in about 5 or 6 months now. Will have to see what changes have been made.

How in the hell have you owned a Wii U for that long?  :P

Oops! I guess it only seems like 5 or 6 months. Sometimes I forget I have it. Have any new games come out since launch?

None that I know of lol
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on January 08, 2013, 03:05:47 AM
It's typical for a launch of a new system. The "launch" has about a dozen games, but it takes another 3+ months for the stream to start trickling in. 

I've got five WiiU games now, so I've got more than enough to play while I wait.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on January 08, 2013, 03:59:50 AM
I've been playing Wii games on the thing.  Including Wiiner Ware games. 
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on January 08, 2013, 05:05:23 AM
I've been playing Wii games on the thing.  Including Wiiner Ware games. 

Have you tried Mighty Switch force?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Duo_R on January 08, 2013, 05:51:33 AM
Is it possible to transfer VC downloads to a Wii-U and then possbily back to a standard Wii down the road?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on January 08, 2013, 05:52:01 AM
No it's a one way street.  Like butts.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Duo_R on January 08, 2013, 05:54:13 AM
I might jump the bandwagon if there is an Ambassador program. I had no idea the standard Wii had one (thought it was just 3DS). Or Metroid or Zelda title would be an instant purchase.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on January 08, 2013, 08:17:21 AM

Anybody play the Rayman demo? It's pretty awesome.

They finally have demos now? Hot damn, I gotta fire dis bitch up!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on January 08, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
OK I downloaded, installed and played the Rayman demo. It was awesome for the first 30 seconds or so until the game started demanding I use the touchpad. Then it demanded I keep switching my attention between the touchpad and the TV and then rotate the touch pad while looking at the TV. This shit's fine on the 3DS but on a console it just doesn't fly. I'll stick with the far superior Playstation 3 Rayman Origins which I can relax while playing.

By the way, how do I delete the demo?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Duo_R on January 09, 2013, 07:30:35 AM
Options > System Options > Format System > Ship Wii-U to Duo-R  (come on you don't like the system anyway)   =)

OK I downloaded, installed and played the Rayman demo. It was awesome for the first 30 seconds or so until the game started demanding I use the touchpad. Then it demanded I keep switching my attention between the touchpad and the TV and then rotate the touch pad while looking at the TV. This shit's fine on the 3DS but on a console it just doesn't fly. I'll stick with the far superior Playstation 3 Rayman Origins which I can relax while playing.

By the way, how do I delete the demo?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on January 09, 2013, 11:34:24 AM
LOL. Even if I completely formatted it you could still freely download any games I have downloaded for FREE! Games are tied to the console, not the user. And good games will come. It's just that these earlier ones will tend to feel more of a need to be gimmicky but that will likely decrease in time.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Duo_R on January 09, 2013, 11:59:25 AM
Hey man...your just sweetening the deal! I will PM you my address!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: SMF on January 09, 2013, 10:38:38 PM
Just another reason why I don't trade or sell my old games or systems.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Nando on January 10, 2013, 04:03:19 AM
No it's a one way street.  Like butts.

HAHAHAH!

Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on January 12, 2013, 07:54:07 AM
5 player Mario Chase is probably the best thing on the console right now. Had a match going for 3 hours or so last weekend- I can't recall the last time I had so much fun with a game. I pulled a muscle in my shoulder celebrating.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: TheClash603 on January 12, 2013, 10:00:25 AM
5 player Mario Chase is probably the best thing on the console right now. Had a match going for 3 hours or so last weekend- I can't recall the last time I had so much fun with a game. I pulled a muscle in my shoulder celebrating.

My buddies and I started with that game, but we now seem to prefer the Animal Crossing game.  You should give that one a go too.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Duo_R on December 03, 2013, 03:55:45 PM
No one's playing anymore? Mario 3D World?
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: BlueBMW on December 04, 2013, 12:10:35 AM
I am wearing Mario 3D World out!   In my opinion it is worth buying a system for!
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: munchiaz on December 04, 2013, 05:45:58 AM
I played a bunch of wonderful 101 and a bit if wind waker (i need to get back on that) wanna pick up mario but dont have the time or the money right now
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Joe Redifer on December 04, 2013, 07:39:11 AM
I played Super Mario 3D World up to world 2 but now I'm playing through Ys 7 err I mean Ys Memories of Celceta and I don't like playing through multiple games at once since I get so little times for just plain ol' gameplay. I'll come back to Mario after I'm done with Ys 7 in Celceta.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: lukester on December 04, 2013, 07:46:34 AM
Every aspect of Mario 3D World is amazing, even better with a friend or 3. I don't feel like playing the 2 or 3 extra worlds though.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: KingDrool on December 04, 2013, 08:19:47 AM
I just finished Wind Waker the other day and been playing a lot of Mario 3D World.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Arkhan on December 04, 2013, 09:07:16 AM
I've been playing Wonderful 101 and Pikmin 3
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: futureman2000 on December 04, 2013, 11:45:48 AM
Just started 3d world the other night. I'm in world 3, and man... the game is fun. Definitely better than 3D Land, which was also a lot of fun.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: DragonmasterDan on December 04, 2013, 12:19:09 PM
Just started 3d world the other night. I'm in world 3, and man... the game is fun. Definitely better than 3D Land, which was also a lot of fun.

I reached the ending of 3D World, but there's still more to do. Fantastic game and as BMW mentioned it's a game worth owning the system to play.
Title: Re: The Wii U
Post by: Bloufo on December 04, 2013, 03:32:35 PM
Game's such a blast. Tried some co-op as well over the weekend and the results were as insanely chaotic as you'd expect.
Honestly haven't had this much fun with any other game this year. The level of polish and creativity is top-notch.
If I didn't have a Wii U this would be the game that would have made me buy one.
BTW, not sure if everyone knows this but I found this out quite late into the game, you can spin the left stick to get a higher jump.  :mrgreen: