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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2011, 04:04:47 PM »
Hmm.  I feel like it should be Norumandoru, or something.

Doesn't that say "noomandoru"
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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2011, 05:24:16 PM »
The original text says "Normandor". Tatsujin translated it to ノーマンドル and SuperDeadite confirmed that it's good, so... we be all good here. :D

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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2011, 05:36:07 PM »
I guess either works really.  It's not like there are severe rules for making round eye words in Katakana.

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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2011, 12:47:34 PM »
The original text says "Normandor". Tatsujin translated it to ノーマンドル and SuperDeadite confirmed that it's good, so... we be all good here. :D

That is an acceptable way, but I think "ノルマンドル" is just as likely a candidate, and I think I've seen more English words with "or" in them translated as "oru" instead of "oo". The Japanese are nothing if not inconsistent.
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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2011, 02:51:02 PM »
Well, I don't plan on changing it now. :) hehe :) but yeah... it seems there's more than one way of doing things. Hell, SD and Tats had different ideas about the particular dialect used...

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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2011, 03:17:55 PM »
Find out how Japan romanizes "Normandy" and you've got it.  : )
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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2011, 03:49:01 PM »
Well, I don't plan on changing it now. :) hehe :) but yeah... it seems there's more than one way of doing things. Hell, SD and Tats had different ideas about the particular dialect used...

When it comes to katakana9000ing stuff, there is definitely more than one way.  I got multiple ways to do Insanity, and picked the one I liked the most.

Noomandoru and Norumandoru are both acceptable, I just prefer the ru as much as possible. :)

Google translate refers to both of them as "Norman US Dollar"

so, Nooman Doru and Noruman Doru, lol
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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2011, 02:18:23 AM »
Norman US Dollar? Wtf. lol

The name "Normandor" comes from a modification of "Cormantor", which was one of the original cities in the game world. When Charlie (not MacDonald... this particular Charlie isn't part of the PCE scene) and I were designing the game world, he named a city "Cormantor", and it was the first city you reach in the game. The first village wasn't named at that point, and the name "Normandor" just kinda popped into my head. The name worked, so the name stuck.

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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2011, 02:32:58 AM »
Well, Doru = Dollar

and Noruman, well, duh.

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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2011, 02:04:06 PM »
The Roman font on the system card really was bugging me, so I modified the script compiler to spit out regular ASCII characters for the English text, modified the in-game script process to support new subcode 0x09 for direct Shift-JIS character entry, and loaded in a pre-made 8x16 font. The end result:


Much better, methinks. :) And of course, I can change the font at any time to something new... if need be.

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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2011, 03:38:05 PM »
yes, that font is far better than the other stretchy one.

I mean it still sucks, but hey, I'm picky. >=)
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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2011, 03:51:34 PM »

Better.

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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2011, 05:20:54 PM »
needs more fixedsys, ;)

You know you like it.  Cmon, show everyone!
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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2011, 05:48:19 PM »


Public opinion seems split between these two images... the second one above, and this one right here. The second one above is nice because it's clean and Falcom-ish, and this one's good because it's uniform and solid.

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Re: Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside
« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2011, 07:03:42 PM »
The easiest (and best) way to compare the fonts was to stack 'em together:



(A) is nice in isolation, but clearly not as fluid and graceful as (B). It may be possible to salvage (A) by adjusting the overall tracking (spacing) between all the letters (but that would require a lot of work, and I don't know if there is any extra room in the individual tiles.) Kerning between certain letter combos is also an issue, but tracking would probably solve most of (A)'s shortcoming.

(B) is truly elegant and charming. It doesn't seem to offer as much contrast with the background as (A) or (B). Odd, since (A) and (B) are not much different. (B) is the sans serif version of (A), with pussy-footed dots over the "i".

(C) is [bold] and easy to read even when you are sleepy and about to enter the land of Nod. I think it is easy to read, but it does seem a bit heavy-handed compared to (B), no? (B) sharply contrasts with the background, which definitely improves its readability.
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