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Re: AES or MVS?
« Reply #75 on: September 08, 2014, 01:17:26 PM »
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Re: AES or MVS?
« Reply #76 on: September 08, 2014, 09:45:41 PM »
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damn, such a shame that those labels have seen better days but a good amount of games nonetheness

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Re: AES or MVS?
« Reply #77 on: September 10, 2014, 04:03:14 AM »
An AES with a proper Converter and a multicart can be the cheapest way now, a decent used AES is around $250-$350.  The converter is gona cost you but now some of them have built in BIOS now.  An AES outputs RGB right out of the box so SCART to a RGB converter and your set like a turbo Vette.

A consolidated 1 Slot may be a good way to go as well, but it's so nice to have an AES with a huge Cartridge Sticking out of it, very nice system to look at.


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Re: AES or MVS?
« Reply #78 on: September 10, 2014, 04:56:41 AM »
An AES with a proper Converter and a multicart can be the cheapest way now, a decent used AES is around $250-$350.  The converter is gona cost you but now some of them have built in BIOS now.  An AES outputs RGB right out of the box so SCART to a RGB converter and your set like a turbo Vette.

A consolidated 1 Slot may be a good way to go as well, but it's so nice to have an AES with a huge Cartridge Sticking out of it, very nice system to look at.

Some of the CMVS kits made are pretty nice to look at as well..

that Omega is one I particually like and would have gone with if I had not bought the all wood CMVS one I initaly bought that thrusted me into all that is Neo Geo......

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Re: AES or MVS?
« Reply #79 on: September 10, 2014, 05:35:50 AM »
An AES with a proper Converter and a multicart can be the cheapest way now, a decent used AES is around $250-$350.  The converter is gona cost you but now some of them have built in BIOS now.  An AES outputs RGB right out of the box so SCART to a RGB converter and your set like a turbo Vette.

A consolidated 1 Slot may be a good way to go as well, but it's so nice to have an AES with a huge Cartridge Sticking out of it, very nice system to look at.

The RGB output in AES systems is inconsistent. Even if you get one with better RGB output, it's supposed to still get better with a mod. Conveters are also all over the place and pricey. If AES systems are really that expensive now, then it would be cheaper just to buy an Omega cmvs and not deal with all the extra cables and potential issues. It looks and feels nice and won't scratch or crack so easily and looks much better without a transcoder and second power supply hanging off the back.
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Re: AES or MVS?
« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2014, 07:00:17 AM »
An AES with a proper Converter and a multicart can be the cheapest way now, a decent used AES is around $250-$350.  The converter is gona cost you but now some of them have built in BIOS now.  An AES outputs RGB right out of the box so SCART to a RGB converter and your set like a turbo Vette.

A consolidated 1 Slot may be a good way to go as well, but it's so nice to have an AES with a huge Cartridge Sticking out of it, very nice system to look at.

The RGB output in AES systems is inconsistent. Even if you get one with better RGB output, it's supposed to still get better with a mod. Conveters are also all over the place and pricey. If AES systems are really that expensive now, then it would be cheaper just to buy an Omega cmvs and not deal with all the extra cables and potential issues. It looks and feels nice and won't scratch or crack so easily and looks much better without a transcoder and second power supply hanging off the back.

With that Omega CMVS, can you still use the normal AES stick? And the NGCD pad as well? Always wondered that and never really knew, because then with the Omega, you'd just need some sort of controller if it didn't already come with it.

I have also seen some Omegas with or without the memory card capabilities. Along with rgb/s-vid mods. I've been thinking about getting an Omega CMVS, they look nice and seem to have everything i would want (as i stated though, if it had it all built in. Unibios as well? Not sure)

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« Reply #81 on: September 10, 2014, 07:12:15 AM »
An AES with a proper Converter and a multicart can be the cheapest way now, a decent used AES is around $250-$350.  The converter is gona cost you but now some of them have built in BIOS now.  An AES outputs RGB right out of the box so SCART to a RGB converter and your set like a turbo Vette.

A consolidated 1 Slot may be a good way to go as well, but it's so nice to have an AES with a huge Cartridge Sticking out of it, very nice system to look at.

The RGB output in AES systems is inconsistent. Even if you get one with better RGB output, it's supposed to still get better with a mod. Conveters are also all over the place and pricey. If AES systems are really that expensive now, then it would be cheaper just to buy an Omega cmvs and not deal with all the extra cables and potential issues. It looks and feels nice and won't scratch or crack so easily and looks much better without a transcoder and second power supply hanging off the back.

With that Omega CMVS, can you still use the normal AES stick? And the NGCD pad as well? Always wondered that and never really knew, because then with the Omega, you'd just need some sort of controller if it didn't already come with it.

I have also seen some Omegas with or without the memory card capabilities. Along with rgb/s-vid mods. I've been thinking about getting an Omega CMVS, they look nice and seem to have everything i would want (as i stated though, if it had it all built in. Unibios as well? Not sure)

I want to say that MOST of the CMVS conversons I have seen

mostly the Omega (which you can buy just the shel minus the NEO GEO One Slot if you preffer) and the Analouge CMVS support the AES controller, and the Neo Geo CD controller as they are the same plugs.

The Analouge CMVS does not support the memory card that the AES used (and the MVS Arcades), but you can buy one with a memory card in the system or send an older CMVS (before they made the "slim" model) to have their memeory card put in for game saves and I think Bios save states.  I will need to do this one day as I bought the first run of their CMVS before the slim model or the memory card option.

I am not to too familiour with the Omega but if you go/join the Neo Geo Forums the creator/seller of the Omega has a thread and is very approchable if you have questions.

If you do deside to go the MVS route you'll enjoy it....it can be customized to suit your needs, and looks really good in any gaming room.  The games are also much more affordable, and like the AES just be carefull .....do research on the game and compair the game boards to verify if it is a boot copy or a legit copy....

I have also found going MVS allows me to just keep the arcade verson and not mess with any ports of the games that honestly couldn't handle the games like an arcade could. 

I did buy some of the SNK compilations for the Wii and Xbox, but that is because these (to me) are perfect arcade ports/emulations that make wantign to play a compilation of games easyer then useing my MVS at times.  Although I am still missing the Wii port of the Metal Slug franchies...I need to pick that up one day, but I keep waiting to find it in the wild....might just ebay it if I can find a good bundle deal on some other Wii games I am still looking to add to my Wii Library.

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« Reply #82 on: September 10, 2014, 07:46:40 AM »
Most CMVS I've seen use Neo Geo controller ports. I have two Saturn pads that I had modified for Neo Geo that I combined the shell of skeletal pads with black/grey buttons for. My Omega has a single AV port like a modern console and has an s-video and component set of cables. So there's only ever a single cable for AV and it uses a power cord like a PC. It also has a newer revision of unibios. Even if you don't care about customizing games, unibios is a must have just for sound tests. The body feels like sturdy arcade plastic and swapping carts is no problem. I was always afraid of pushing a thumb through my AES when swapping out games.
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Re: AES or MVS?
« Reply #83 on: September 10, 2014, 07:51:20 AM »
What would be the cheapest way to get a proper Neo Geo Setup these days?  Obviously not the Neo Geo X or tehzz Romzz!!1! but a real setup?  Man I wish I still had my Super Gun and single slot, that was an easy setup.


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« Reply #84 on: September 10, 2014, 07:57:06 AM »
What would be the cheapest way to get a proper Neo Geo Setup these days?  Obviously not the Neo Geo X or tehzz Romzz!!1! but a real setup?  Man I wish I still had my Super Gun and single slot, that was an easy setup.

Cheapest?

Steal one?

J/K

I'd say cheapest would be to get a one-slot and super gun (or make a super gun) and game on from there.

after that you could always upgrad the one-slot to an Omega.

Most expensive as far as CMVS goes would be Analouge.  Great quality, and I love it but a bit pricy....it was one of the few times I ever went with the more high dollar set up. 


then of course the MOST expensive and less likely for most of use now a days would be AES. Which is why my AES just sort of sits there as a unique item that gets almost no use or love.....sigh...tear tear..cry cry..hush hush eye to eye....

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« Reply #85 on: September 10, 2014, 08:09:09 AM »
I sold my AES for that very reason.... Most of the games I wanted to play I had on MVS or CD already so the poor AES just sat there unused...  Had to let it go :(
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« Reply #86 on: September 10, 2014, 08:27:30 AM »
I sold my AES for that very reason.... Most of the games I wanted to play I had on MVS or CD already so the poor AES just sat there unused...  Had to let it go :(

I am THIS close to sell mine off......as I would rather it get some use..maybe as a back up for someone with a AES collectin.

But I keep holding out thinking/hoping a Everdrive AES cart will be made......that would be SO COOL.

I would feel like Doctor Octavious from Spiderman 2 "The power of the sun in the palm of my hands!"

Honestly the ONLY Spiderman movie I liked that had Tobby in it.....

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« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2014, 07:01:51 AM »
Same with me. I kept me AES for a while after getting a CMVS, but it just wasn't worth using or dropping a bunch of cash into to get close to the performance of my first CMVS. And that's totally independant of the price/availability between the actual games.

I kept my Neo Geo CD though. It's cool having unique versions of games and worth having just for SSRPG.
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Re: AES or MVS?
« Reply #88 on: September 16, 2014, 02:20:15 PM »
Are AES consoles and games region locked?

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Re: AES or MVS?
« Reply #89 on: September 16, 2014, 02:46:59 PM »
NM. Looks like its region free