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Kitsunexus

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2007, 09:02:29 AM »
What about that one expensive VR arcade system?

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2007, 10:07:52 AM »
IS THE VIRTUAL BOY IN 3D!?

What about that one expensive VR arcade system?

No more so than any sterescopic image.  The VB has a LED array for each eye that shows slightly different angles of the same 2D image, which the brain perceives as a 3D image.  Again, all current video games are viewed in 2D, but the world being viewed can be either 2D or 3D (or something in between).  We won't have 3D games being viewed in 3D until we have holodecks like on Star Dork.

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2007, 10:14:21 AM »
I officially declare this A Boring Topic™

Kitsunexus

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2007, 10:47:10 AM »
Most HMDs (head-mounted-displays, VR headsets, goggles, w/e you call them) released had 2 screens, with slight offset between them for realism. But herein lies the problem; we don't see 2 flat surfaces when we look at our world, it's impossible to consciously notice but we see sort of a dome shape. That's how we can look out of the corners of our eyes to see things coming.

So the solution is to make an HMD that uses 2 very light-weight OLED dome displays that cover the eye. This not only solves the problem of realistic vision, but eliminates the problems standard dual-LCD HMDs have, namely the bulkiness (which was required to block out light and hold primitive technology) but is doesn't do anything fo the biggest problem which is depth perception.

That's actually something we need to touch on in this thread. Depth perception is a BIG player in the "is it 3D or not" game. If you had NO depth perception, life would be like looking a big animated flat surface. Depth perception lets us see that some things sit in front of others, some behind, etc...

The problem with this involving HMDs is that the software never really simulated the depth perception, they left this to the HMD. But when you have an LCD less than 3 inches from your eyeballs, all of that is lost. Mostly everybody has an LCD monitor, close your eyes, get as CLOSE as you can, and open them. Doesn't exactly look 3D huh? In order to get proper depth perception from an LCD, you'd need an HMD that's about 2 feet long!  :shock:

I think the OLED dome scenario can fix this, however, I'm still working out exactly how that would work. I'm trying to avoid math as much as I can, but it will most likely have to come in at some point. :(

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2007, 10:57:13 AM »
I officially declare this A Boring Topic™

Don't be that guy.  Don't be THAT guy.  " I hate this thread."  "This thread is so lame."  "Anyone who likes this thread."

Then don't read it...

FM-77

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2007, 10:58:15 AM »
I was kidding. :P


.....or was I?

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2007, 11:01:01 AM »
I was kidding. :P


.....or was I?

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Kitsunexus

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2007, 11:02:22 AM »
Don't spam this thread. I'm not f*cking around.

offsidewing

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2007, 11:10:48 AM »
I think the OLED dome scenario can fix this, however, I'm still working out exactly how that would work. I'm trying to avoid math as much as I can, but it will most likely have to come in at some point. :(

Weren't Organic Light Emitting diodes/displays supposed to come out about the same time as Laser Discs?  I've been hearing about OLED's longer than I've been hearing about the Ultra 64...

Kitsunexus

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2007, 11:12:50 AM »
Weren't Organic Light Emitting diodes/displays supposed to come out about the same time as Laser Discs?  I've been hearing about OLED's longer than I've been hearing about the Ultra 64...

LOL dude, they're out. Hell my Zen Sleek Photo which is like f*cking ANCIENT has one.

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2007, 01:14:53 PM »
I officially declare this A Boring Topic™

 :lol:

We won't have 3D games being viewed in 3D until we have holodecks like on Star Dork.

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Why? Holodecks rule.



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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2007, 03:05:43 PM »
I say my paralaxing duo games are 3-D  :twisted:

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2007, 03:45:55 PM »
I officially declare this A Boring Topic™

 :lol:

We won't have 3D games being viewed in 3D until we have holodecks like on Star Dork.

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Kitsu, show 'em your Vulcan V-8!

Why? Holodecks rule.




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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2007, 04:16:39 PM »
I say my paralaxing duo games are 3-D  :twisted:

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Re: Are 3D games really 3D games??
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2007, 05:43:52 PM »