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termis

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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2010, 04:55:07 PM »
Yeah, the saturn, much like the PCE, has tons of great stuff -- including a number of shooters -- that weren't ported over to the western markets, so you definitely want access to Japanese games.  And I also agree with Zeta, switching's the way to go (and the 2-way JP/US switch is waaaaaaaaaay easier than switching a PCE/TG16.  It does get a little more involved once you get into a single 3-way region switch). 

Some other reasons for going switches > PAR.
- You don't have to flip through the PAR menu every single time you start a game.  Maybe not a big deal to some, but it started getting annoying to me.
- People often complain of the PAR's thicker PCB wearing the saturn cart port out quicker than using official carts (though to be fair, the saturn cart port sucks no matter what).
- And of course, direct save access + ability to play ROM cart games as Zeta mentioned.

Here's my main unit -- 50/60 Hz region switch in the left, which isn't really necessary for North American folks unless you wanna try out some EU games (on a 50Hz capable TV). 3-way US/EU/JP switch on the right.


And I thought PAR worked well for ALL 1MB/4MB fighters (except the old ones not working well with Vampire Savior, IIRC).  From what I understand the whole graphic glitch with some SNK 1MB games only happen if you use the official Sega/Capcom 4MB memory carts.  I could be wrong on this one, and I'm too lazy to go and check for myself.

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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2010, 05:54:02 PM »
I have a white Saturn that I bought rather late, 1999 or so, brand new. It has never seen a PAR, and if anything the cart slot started getting slutty even faster than my launch US one. While everything else on the SS is nearly bullet proof, the cart slots are just total garbage.

You could be right about the 4MB PAR working well with all games. I know the official 4MB messed up some stuff.

FYI there is a really simple one wire mod that will fix the early 4MB PARs so that they work with the post-XMvsSF games.

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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2010, 11:36:04 PM »
Def gonna pic up galactic attack tho, that game looks sexy.

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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2010, 12:13:41 AM »
Ha! I got the steering wheel when I picked up the system! Now I'm pumped.

...So where does one go for getting this switch done, or is there some kind of tutorial somewhere explaining how an idiot like me could do it?
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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2010, 04:15:39 AM »
Look at section 9.6 of this faq.  There are other guides out there with pics and all, but unlike the text guide below, I've never seen a web guide that covers all variations of (non exotic) saturns, so those pics can actually be more confusing if you don't know what you're doing. 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/saturn/916393-saturn/faqs/6458

Saturn is the very first console mod job I did that involved soldering, and it worked out fine.  The only goof I made was that I drilled a hole on the case that was a bit too big, so the switch didn't completely cover the gaping hole in the case.  To prevent this, you can practice first on cutting out/drilling out a hole on an empty CD jewel case first.

And if you'd really rather not try yourself, holler out to the modders on this board, they'll prob do this one for you.

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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2010, 05:24:22 AM »
yeah start out US...then discover the GEMS that we never got overseas!
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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2010, 03:59:06 PM »
Preferably US titles for now
Guardian Heroes
Panzer Dragoon Saga:Still it's a pricey one
Saturn Bomberman
Legend of Oasis
Magic Knight Rayearth
Sega Rally
Night Warriors DarkStalkers Revenge
Darius Gaiden
Galactic Attack aka layer section
Mega Man 8
Dragon Force

Just to name a few.
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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2010, 07:17:17 AM »
get one if u got the time for collecting imports :P

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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2010, 02:25:11 AM »
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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2010, 02:36:50 AM »
I haven't bought an import Saturn game for a long time because the cart slot on my system broke.  This mod switch option sounds pretty nice.  Thanks for the info!

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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2010, 09:23:10 PM »
Oh, and BTW, the mod info above is only for 2-region US<->JP mod switch, which is simple, and will do for vast majority of people in North America wanting to play Japanese imports (or vice-versa).

If you're interested in more advanced stuff ..
Single 3 way (EU/US/JP) region switch
3 Way (EU/US/JP) switchless mod - Personally, I don't like switchless as it's less intuitive and more work fumbling around when switching regions/refresh rate, but some folks don't want to alter the case of the saturns.
50/60Hz switch - Okay, not advanced, actually really easy, but this is mostly unneeded for NTSC region folks.

If you're technically apt and want to know what's actually happening with the region switch mods, the details of it are here:
http://www.gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=imports:sega_saturn

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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2010, 02:37:49 AM »
All this Saturn talk made me pull out my system when my friend came over.  I do not actually endorse the following games, but we played some guilty pleasures:

WWF In Your House
Street Fighter: The Movie

YES!

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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2010, 02:59:00 AM »
lol

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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2010, 07:05:59 AM »
Been pokin' around the saturn last couple of days 

Played Solar Eclipse, and was plesantly surprised. Played Virtua Fighter 1 and almost vomited.

I bought Galactic Attack which should be here this week. Super stoked for that one. I got my racing wheel ready, lol
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Re: to buy or not to buy: sega saturn
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2010, 10:51:11 AM »
Played Virtua Fighter 1 and almost vomited.

Word.. VF2 is the way to go.  Get REMIX if you have to have VF1.. way better than the initial offering.