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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: HercTNT on October 27, 2012, 04:04:38 PM
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I want this, anyone have any idea how hard this would be to do? any one willing to take it on?
http://members.optusnet.com.au/eviltim/ggrgb/ggrgb.html
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I've been wanting to tackle that project for quite some time. That's easily a whole day's work for me, though. I always thought it would be tool to use a project box to make a consolized GG, wired up to use an SMS controller. You can just put the start button on the console itself. Of course if I did all that, it would take more than one day, probably.
Chris
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I'm only looking for the tv-out part of the mod. It is supposed to support rgb+sync. i could output my gamegear to my upscaler via vga cable then to my lcd. i would imagine it would look extremely cool. would basically just use the game gear as a controller.
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I got the premade kit for this. Hope to have time to work on it some day.
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I got the premade kit for this. Hope to have time to work on it some day.
Do you have a link of where to get such a kit? This mod looks a bit out of my league building from scratch.
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Yeah.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stinkyfist/reviletim/ggtv/ggtv.htm
You have to E-mail the guy. When I got one earlier this year, he said I got the last one. I hope he's made more since then, but I have a feeling the link to this page that was put up on Cinemassacre a half-year or so ago generated some considerable interest.
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thanks!
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i'm not finding his email address
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i'm not finding his email address
I'm not going to post it here, but all you have to do is follow the "Return to INDEX" link at the bottom of the page. The E-mail is at the bottom of the index page.
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Thanks for the info, he got back to me and said he would have some in stock in a few weeks.
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Awesome. Let us know how it turns out. Not sure when I'll ever get around to doing mine.
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I just e-mailed him as well. I didn't realize that someone was selling kits. That makes it way easier. I'm glad that no one bought my Game Gear collection when I had it up for sale. Making a consolized version will be a cool winter project.
Chris
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How much are the kits
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I don't know. He said that he'll have more in stock at the end of the week, and that he would contact me.
Chris
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yeah i want one but im afraid his price might be more then i want to spend to play game gear games on my monitor
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I have a game gear that appears to be on it's last legs. It works "sometimes" (games take a couple of tries to finally work) and screen is pretty dim. No sound either.
If anybody wants it as a project/guinea pig, let me know. All I ask is shipping.
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sounds like it needs a cop job
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sounds like it needs a cop job
Goddamint Riggs, I'm too old for this shit!
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oops needs a cap job
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yeah i want one but im afraid his price might be more then i want to spend to play game gear games on my monitor
Yeah, but if you use it to add TV-out to your GG, or use it to make a consolized GG, how much would that then be worth? Unless he wants like $100 for the kit, I'll probably order one.
Chris
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yeah i want one but im afraid his price might be more then i want to spend to play game gear games on my monitor
Yeah, but if you use it to add TV-out to your GG, or use it to make a consolized GG, how much would that then be worth? Unless he wants like $100 for the kit, I'll probably order one.
Chris
agreed, game gear games are incredibly cheap around me, and i'd actually play it if it was "consolized"
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yeah i want one but im afraid his price might be more then i want to spend to play game gear games on my monitor
Yeah, but if you use it to add TV-out to your GG, or use it to make a consolized GG, how much would that then be worth? Unless he wants like $100 for the kit, I'll probably order one.
Chris
agreed, game gear games are incredibly cheap around me, and i'd actually play it if it was "consolized"
That's how I feel. The GG has such a crappy screen that I just don't want to play it. But if it was consolized and set up to use an SMS controller (or whatever,) that would be pretty sweet.
Chris
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sounds like it needs a cop job
Goddamint Riggs, I'm too old for this shit!
Excellent :clap: :clap: :clap:
Yea, like i said, if i can use the gamegear as a controller to play the games on big screen i will be set. the game gear does have some great games.
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Personally I'd love one of these:
(http://a407.idata.over-blog.com/450x382/0/01/53/72/homebrew/gamegear-salon-1.jpg)
Yep, some guy consolised a Game Gear.
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That's way beyond my abilities. I was just going to put it in a generic metal project box from the local electronics hobby shop.
Chris
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Personally I'd love one of these:
(http://a407.idata.over-blog.com/450x382/0/01/53/72/homebrew/gamegear-salon-1.jpg)
Yep, some guy consolised a Game Gear.
don't know why companies dont copy shit like this and do more retro stuff. it would sell. look at atari flashback.
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Unless he wants like $100 for the kit, I'll probably order one.
I think he charged me like $70. I gladly paid. Just wish sega had put out some sort of official means to do this in the early '90s.
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i emailed him and he said he would be getting some in, in a week. that was almost two weeks ago. i sent him a follow up email and have not heard from him. i hope he comes through.
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Thats pretty nice. I have a dead game gear i found in the garbage. I think all it needs is a full recap. If the recap job works im gonna see if i can get this kit too.
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boards are now available here http://members.iinet.net.au/~stinkyfist/reviletim/ggtv/ggtv.htm
He sent out this to me in an email earlier today.
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Hah, thats nice, Price is decent too and it can output S-video
Guess ill recap the GG ASAP before he runs out of those boards again :p
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Its $50 AU which almost comes to $50 USD.
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Thanks for the heads up Herc, it took me all of about 30 seconds to decide to get one :D
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I wonder if he would dona group order discount. Could save a little on the shipping too.
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i don't have good soldering skills or else I'd buy the board and do it myself.
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I just picked up one, been waiting for this.
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i still say a proper board needs a scaler.
it can be a single frame scaler based on the GG native res.
think of this, take the native res (dont know what it is)
feed the output from the GG to a frame buffer.
read the frame buffer at a slower pixel rate + line doubling.
can be done with 0.5 to 1 frame delay.
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Well, i have not yet recapped my GG but i was not going to wait till you guys bought all of them pretty things!
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the GG does have a blanking signal and pixel clock, that would make sampling easy
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So do you think you can design a better pcb steve?
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i still say a proper board needs a scaler.
Then just add one yourself, man. I already saw the page of another dude who did.
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i still say a proper board needs a scaler.
Then just add one yourself, man. I already saw the page of another dude who did.
i missed that one
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I think the japanese guy who made a SMS lookalike for his consolized GG included a scaler.
Sure a scaler would be nice but for my part just getting a gg to display on a TV will be an awesome start.
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If you're willing to shell out the money, you can use an XRGB or XVGA from Micomsoft for the scaling. That's what one dude did.
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the consolized one isnt scaled
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I remembered he had full screen pictures but apparently he uses an external SONY DSC-1024HD.
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Personally, I don't think it really needs to be scaled. Might as well play it at the native resolution, even if it doesn't use the whole screen.
I have an XVGA-1Pro, but I'm not really planning to use it with my TV Game Gear once its finished.
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Ran into a huge problem, went to install the board and his instructions don't cover the asic for the majesco game gear. Anyone out there think they can help out?
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Ran into a huge problem, went to install the board and his instructions don't cover the asic for the majesco game gear. Anyone out there think they can help out?
I think if you contact tim he would probably be able to help you out if no one here can.
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Yea, i'm being a dummy. i planned on contacting him anyways. currently he is going through some his rez photos i have taken of the game gear and is working on a solution.
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id go over it with a scope, and find the points
once you have sync, hook it to a tv through a resistor, and start adding other signals (you will know it when you see it)
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I just installed his pcb. Now my gamegear have video out. Just need a 3.5lcd to complete the mod. SMS games display in full screen. Would be nice if the gamegear games display in full screen too.
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/superkon316/9D1D08A2-EE1A-450E-8BE8-34424DAEFCF6-5353-000002C022EE3562.jpg)
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Nice! Love DD on the MS, so much better than the NES version.
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I agree:)
Now can anyone where to the controller pinout so that can added an external controller for player 1? The extension bus on top is for player 2.
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I just installed his pcb. Now my gamegear have video out. Just need a 3.5lcd to complete the mod. SMS games display in full screen. Would be nice if the gamegear games display in full screen too.
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/superkon316/9D1D08A2-EE1A-450E-8BE8-34424DAEFCF6-5353-000002C022EE3562.jpg)
How about some pics of game gear games? Pleasssse! :)
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I agree:)
Now can anyone where to the controller pinout so that can added an external controller for player 1? The extension bus on top is for player 2.
omp on Sega16 might know, he's done a fully modded GG with the first version of this board and 2 player compatability.
I just got my board from tim as well but haven't installed it yet though. Very nicely packed, he put the board in an anti-static bag and then packed it all well in a box so it got to me safely. I'm in the US btw and the box he used was big enough to fit multiple boards in without any issues if you guys wanted to do a group order.
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Here is a picture of a gamegear game Vampire Mastet of Darkness
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/superkon316/pc-enginefx/BC63EE0A-258A-435D-85C8-1871E41564C6-216-00000005AD55E16E.jpg)
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Very nice, I've been thinking on and off about making a consolized GG myself as I have two laying around, one of which needs a new cart port. However, I'd ideally stuff everything in a plastic project box as opposed to cramming everything into the GG case, as I want to have controller ports and an 8-pin DIN jack for RGB.
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Yeah that's a good idea to stuff everything inside a plastic box. I'm finding the gamegear doesn't have room for an LCD mod. There is just no room to stuff the lcd's pcb. Anybody else have any ideas as to make the LCD mod fit inside the gamegear?
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remove the reflector, and the board should fit fine
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I did that, the transformer I think on the gamegear is in the way. I might need to trim the lcd's pcb and re-arrange some components.
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the transformer should be removed
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So that transformers and the blue ceramic cap near by can be removed?
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yes, they drive the backlight
lookup backlight mods and most will show them removed
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Here is a picture of a gamegear game Vampire Mastet of Darkness
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/superkon316/pc-enginefx/BC63EE0A-258A-435D-85C8-1871E41564C6-216-00000005AD55E16E.jpg)
Looks great, how hard of a mod was this (on a scale of 1-10)?
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Install the rgb board isn't to hard if you know where the soldering points are. Using Tim warington I would say 3. Here are a couple pics if the LCD mod.
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/superkon316/pc-enginefx/6B8A8B41-E8FF-4AE8-827F-23776C001714-216-0000007143B1CCDC.jpg)
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/superkon316/pc-enginefx/F0B6296A-6D40-4829-B874-34474453D287-216-000000714158BC22.jpg)
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Here is another pic:)
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/superkon316/pc-enginefx/57E0B295-90BE-40A1-9AAF-115E467F915E-1401-0000011FB2F11538.jpg)
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Is there a way to do the lcd monitor swap and still have the GG games scale to the size of the new display? (sorry total tech noob here)
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yes, with a custom LCD controller
most LCD panels do "data good" scaling (supported by the GG LCD controller
would just require a custom programmed microcontroller
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yes, with a custom LCD controller
most LCD panels do "data good" scaling (supported by the GG LCD controller
would just require a custom programmed microcontroller
Steve I am going to PM you about this stuff! :)
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I would like to know how to do this too!
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turbokon not trying to threadjack but if anyone here can or wants to do a Game Gear monitor swap, programmed controller for scaling, cap swap, and RGB mod (or can push me to a person who can do one) please shoot me a PM!
Thanks!
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/170723105000?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
it will require a simple controller to interface it
the RGB DEN mode will auto scale
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what games will scale and what games won't? Think it is pointless if the games end up looker smaller.
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SMS games almost takes up the whole 4:3 aspect ratio area but game gear games doesn't.
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Wow that's pointless my modded Sega Nomad plays SMS full screen...lol
Need more details on the scaler idea
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So how did you get the nomad to play SMS games?
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SMS mode - all you do is ground a pin from the cart port to a chip nearby. Very straightforward. All this does is enable SMS. I then use a Mega Everdrive and load SMS roms on it. Not all games work, I recall Ys 1 not working properly, but all the other games I have tried work great. I just added details here on the pins that need to be connected.
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12124.msg276804#msg276804
So how did you get the nomad to play SMS games?
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Back to topic, it stinks this doesn't go full screen on GG games, Steve have you tried a scaler on this yet?
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not yet, but a got a screen to try
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not yet, but a got a screen to try
please keep us informed, i need to get my monitor replaced and definitely want the image scaled for gg games!