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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: Ninja Spirit on September 14, 2010, 11:53:33 AM
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When you were a kid, did you ever have trouble with such an issue, stuff like they take a game away from you from what they saw in it or such?
Me being from a church going family, my selection of games was really repressed back then. I got a assload of stories.
- Back in 5th grade, I borrowed a copy of Simon's Quest from a friend and they held it hostage just because they saw Dracula on the cover, holy water and the cloaked figure that takes you across the river, which for the record, he ended up not getting it back.
- My mom made me return Double Dragon II to the video rental place..
- My dad threatened to ground me after going to the arcade after seeing me play Samurai Shodown. He would overreact at the slightest drop of blood. Hell he was so extreme with the issue about blood in games, that he once said that if he saw I rented a game that had blood, he would actually smash the cartridge into pieces and he would pay the video store for it! Similar thing happened if he caught me playing Tekken 2 he would ban me from going to the arcade for a month.
- Day after I got my SuperNES, I started to rent Contra III and Axelay....dad had the nerve to raise his voice at me in front of the whole store because he saw Red Falcon and the Sand Monster boss because he thought they were demons
- One Saturday morning, I taped the first episode of the Darkstalkers cartoon that came on during the mid 90's, the biggest disadvantage was that only place I could tape stuff was in my parents' room. As I was taping it, mom got really upset when Pyron came on the screen
that prolly explains why I wasn't so much into playing Mortal Kombat..
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Even though my mom was a teacher at Catholic sunday school, I didn't get any grief over a game's content. The only things I remember are:
-My mom got really mad at me playing Choplifter when I got my Sega Master System because the music in the first level would drone on and on and on (I couldn't beat the level). Funny thing is that during the 16-bit era she would request me to make tapes full of music from the Genesis and TG-16 so she could listen to it in her car as she drove to work. Recently she asked for MP3 CDs of the same stuff.
-She took away my SMS when I started getting bad grades in school. The SMS came in an awesome white box with styrofoam and a handle. I swapped out the SMS with various objects that had similar weight and kept the SMS under the bed.
-She made me stop playing Dark Castle because the game was too crappy.
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I went to church pretty regularly as a kid, but my mother is a very liberal and practical minded person. I did what I wanted to do and everything turned out fine. Honestly, looking at some of the freaks on Facebook that I (supposedly) went to high school with, I guess I'm doing pretty damned good.
I love fighting games in general, but I never liked Mortal Kombat because it was a shit fighting game who's only draw was a non-interative murder at the end of a fight, and only if you knew an abstract nonsense code. The most violent games I own in Samurai Showdown IV and Vampire Savior...which are pretty violent, but other than that, almost nothing I own even has blood in it. I'm one of the tiny percentage of humans that is actually turned off by violence, torture, murder, etc. I'm more into cute things and good food and outer space and sports cars and f*cking.
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Not so much stories here, just my dad sometimes came in my room when I had one of my big angry outbursts (mostly during the era of Street Fighter II).
He then usually hold a long speech of how those apathetic video games will blunt me or so.
Sometimes also my game music was set too loud.
appart of that, I was quite free in handling evil video games, as long i came up with the finance for 'em by myself.
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Ah yes, the angry outbursts at games. I find that when someone comes into the room and attempts to suggest how I deal with it (like shutting off the game or breathing deeply, whatever) that is just makes me more angry. When someone gets angry at a game, they are usually angry at themselves for not being able to beat whatever challenge is facing them, so people trying to give you advice on how to handle yourself at this point only adds insult to injury.
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This is very true!
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I just told my parents I played video games because of the rich content of Christian games. I told them my favorite was called Gods.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gods_(video_game)
I just hid my Splaterhouse HuCard under that. ;-)
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Gods can't be a christian game, since there is only one GOD described. your parents should have known that and instantly moved away the whole collection of evil games from you.
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Gods can't be a christian game, since there is only one GOD described. your parents should have known that and instantly moved away the whole collection of evil games from you.
Actually, if you have a Bible laying around read Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish...."
Interesting isn't it. Us and Our, Meaning their is more than one god. Of course most "Christians" I know have never actually read the bible and believe it says "Man was created in gods image." Because that is what they have been told since they were in Sunday school.
BAM! Gods baby!! :)
Genesis 3:22 also says, And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and..."
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I do not come from a religious family, thus I didn't have any sort of thing along these lines happen to me when I was a kid. I guess I had it easy growing up.... or something.
Only "story" I can recall at all is my dad actually playing Space Harrier a few times. I believe it's the only time in his life he's ever played a video game.
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Gods can't be a christian game, since there is only one GOD described. your parents should have known that and instantly moved away the whole collection of evil games from you.
Actually, if you have a Bible laying around read Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish...."
Interesting isn't it. Us and Our, Meaning their is more than one god. Of course most "Christians" I know have never actually read the bible and believe it says "Man was created in gods image." Because that is what they have been told since they were in Sunday school.
BAM! Gods baby!! :)
Genesis 3:22 also says, And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_plural . Or the "Royal We" as The Dude mentioned in The Big Lebowski 8) .
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Gods can't be a christian game, since there is only one GOD described. your parents should have known that and instantly moved away the whole collection of evil games from you.
Actually, if you have a Bible laying around read Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish...."
Interesting isn't it. Us and Our, Meaning their is more than one god. Of course most "Christians" I know have never actually read the bible and believe it says "Man was created in gods image." Because that is what they have been told since they were in Sunday school.
BAM! Gods baby!! :)
Genesis 3:22 also says, And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_plural . Or the "Royal We" as The Dude mentioned in The Big Lebowski 8) .
Are you suggesting God was batsh*t crazy like the royals? :)
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Gods can't be a christian game, since there is only one GOD described. your parents should have known that and instantly moved away the whole collection of evil games from you.
Actually, if you have a Bible laying around read Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish...."
Interesting isn't it. Us and Our, Meaning their is more than one god. Of course most "Christians" I know have never actually read the bible and believe it says "Man was created in gods image." Because that is what they have been told since they were in Sunday school.
BAM! Gods baby!! :)
Genesis 3:22 also says, And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_plural . Or the "Royal We" as The Dude mentioned in The Big Lebowski 8) .
Are you suggesting God was batsh*t crazy like the royals? :)
Gotta be somewhat crazy to create a planet like ours :) .
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Anyone remember this game?
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My mom wasn't very happy when she saw the second boss, because it looked similar to the beast riding Harlot which I believed was mentioned in the Book of Revelation.
Ugh there was my disadvantage...having the NES hooked up in a room where the whole family had access.
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My parents let me play anything. They would sit in the arcade and watch me play Smash TV, and they bought me a Genesis 2 with Mortal Kombat when I was 10.
Only time that my mom ever complained was in high school I was into Marvel VS Capcom 2 and played it a lot. I guess I had the TV too loud, because my mom came in and said "if I hear I'm gonna take you for a ride one more time, I'm throwing that game out."
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When you were a kid, did you ever have trouble with such an issue, stuff like they take a game away from you from what they saw in it or such?
Me being from a church going family, my selection of games was really repressed back then. I got a assload of stories.
- Back in 5th grade, I borrowed a copy of Simon's Quest from a friend and they held it hostage just because they saw Dracula on the cover, holy water and the cloaked figure that takes you across the river, which for the record, he ended up not getting it back.
- My mom made me return Double Dragon II to the video rental place..
- My dad threatened to ground me after going to the arcade after seeing me play Samurai Shodown. He would overreact at the slightest drop of blood. Hell he was so extreme with the issue about blood in games, that he once said that if he saw I rented a game that had blood, he would actually smash the cartridge into pieces and he would pay the video store for it! Similar thing happened if he caught me playing Tekken 2 he would ban me from going to the arcade for a month.
- Day after I got my SuperNES, I started to rent Contra III and Axelay....dad had the nerve to raise his voice at me in front of the whole store because he saw Red Falcon and the Sand Monster boss because he thought they were demons
- One Saturday morning, I taped the first episode of the Darkstalkers cartoon that came on during the mid 90's, the biggest disadvantage was that only place I could tape stuff was in my parents' room. As I was taping it, mom got really upset when Pyron came on the screen
that prolly explains why I wasn't so much into playing Mortal Kombat..
I had some similar problems, my mother was in the late 80s EXTREMELY religious. The good news is she generally didn't care much about video games.
Some years after I played through games like Zelda 1 and Zelda 2 she was given a list of "Satanic Nintendo Games" by her Church and made me literally give them away because they involved the use of magic, which she believed to be a power not of god. Thus apparently I was harnessing the power of Satan by using the "high jump" in Zelda 2.
And yes, she was serious about this.
As I got older my mom calmed down over her religious insanity and I got better at hiding the content of my games from her and it worked out in the end.
Added in edit: Just in case anyone is curious, I grew up to be agnostic/athiest, but having an overly religious parent forced me to find a lot of other ways to play games and get games.
Oh and also Clash603, "I'm Gonna Take you for a ride" still irritates the hell out of me just thinking of it. What Capcom was thinking with that terrible character select music I'll never know.
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Some years after I played through games like Zelda 1 and Zelda 2 she was given a list of "Satanic Nintendo Games" by her Church and made me literally give them away because they involved the use of magic, which she believed to be a power not of god. Thus apparently I was harnessing the power of Satan by using the "high jump" in Zelda 2.
That happened to someone else I knew, he had to give up Ninja Gaiden 2 because of Ashtar (pentagram on his chest) and Jaquio
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I think my parents were more worried about me playing with myself too much rather than with video games, since I never had any girlfriends around (that and their water bill). Or course the video games were probably the reason why I never had any girlfriends around.
Yeah, I never had any video game issues with my parents. Heck, they bought a majority of the games.
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My parents had issues with me and gaming when my grades slid. They did ask for advice from our Baptist church in Central WI... ugh.. They gave them a list of Games/ Movies/ and TV shows that they should never show me as they are satanic or against the bible. When my parents looked it over they realized that half of the TV shows mentioned were some of their favorites.. so they threw out the list...lol. They did however threaten to throw out my D&D books once, again because of bad grades.
The only real issue my parents had with me gaming was the cost of the games/consoles. I frequently got bargain price games for B-days and Xmas. Not really a problem for me as that was how I discovered many awesome NES, Tandy, and TG games back in the day :D !!
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Ninja Spirit, I had a similar, less religious but more strict in terms of video games experience. It was an uphill battle to even get a gaming system when I was younger. My parents were strict, but it was never an issue with "The Devil" per-se. In fact, I can't ever recall my folks using that term. They came at it from the intellectual angle that my grades would drop, I would read less, I would spend less time on my other hobbies; that I would stop learning if I played Super Mario, etc. They were really anti-cable and anti-Atari/Nintendo.
After getting good grades I was allowed to buy a GameBoy, in third grade. I promptly dropped it in a swimming pool, destroying the screen, and spent the following summer playing Tetris, Solar Striker, Double Dragon, and "Baseball" with the center burnt out. Fun Fun. At the end of the summer I saved enough money to have it repaired.
When I was in 4th grade, my folks finally let me buy a Genesis with the money from my summer job, but lack of funding never really allowed me to buy any cool games, or fighters in the vein of MK and such. I had Kid Chameleon, Greendog, Outrun, Quackshot, Sonic 1.
When I started taking my friends broken Nintendos apart in middle school (red flash of death, bad connector, etc.) however, It became a valuable learning experience, and my folks completely relented.
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My father was a deacon in the Catholic Church- but my parents never censored anything I was into. I was watching horror movies as a kid, listening to rap when rap first exploded (I'd even have my father play the tapes in his car when he'd drive me and my friends around- stuff like Schooly D and Kool G Rap), playing, reading and watching practically whatever I wanted. I even went through this corny witchcraft phase at one point (I was smitten with a friend's mother who was a priestess) and my parents would actually buy me the Raymond Buckley books I told them I wanted. In the later years they knew I was smoking pot at home too- but I was honest about it all- unlike my brother. I guess they figured- correctly- that A) If you tell your kid he can't watch something or read something or whatever- it's gonna make him want to do it even more- especially in his teen years, B) that if it's just one of those teenage "cool" things that I would eventually outgrow it and C) that what I really liked I would wind up liking no matter what. I'd say their policies worked. Most of the boys from my grammar school that were getting better grades than me and weren't allowed to do anything wound up being serious drug addicts. I turned out alright.
This should be a lesson to parents- don't overprotect your kids. I talked to one of my sisters about this the other day. I told her to expect that her son WILL go through his drug/alcohol phase (especially since he lives in Long Island lol)- it's how she handles it that will help determine where he winds up from there. She already did a pretty bad job by not letting him and his sister watch movies that all their friends were watching.
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Oh and also Clash603, "I'm Gonna Take you for a ride" still irritates the hell out of me just thinking of it. What Capcom was thinking with that terrible character select music I'll never know.
This is what happens when you stop testing games in the arcade.
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Only "story" I can recall at all is my dad actually playing Space Harrier a few times. I believe it's the only time in his life he's ever played a video game.
Hell, at least it was Space Harrier!
I guess I had the TV too loud, because my mom came in and said "if I hear I'm gonna take you for a ride one more time, I'm throwing that game out."
That entire game had awful music. What were they thinking???
I agree that kids need breathing room when growing up. The more restricted kids feel, the more they'll feel the need to rebel. Still, there should be some level of discipline or the little bastards will never learn respect.
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My parents didn't really care what games we were playing, though they did occasionally care how we played them. (my older brother, ferinstance, would throw a fit whenever the game wouldn't let him win.)
We had neighbors who did, though: they were really religious and never did get their kids a Nintendo. The oldest one even saved up his own money for one, but they forbade him from buying it regardless. They would come over to our house and play ours. Sometimes when we weren't even home. 0_0
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My parents didn't really care what games we were playing, though they did occasionally care how we played them. (my older brother, ferinstance, would throw a fit whenever the game wouldn't let him win.)
We had neighbors who did, though: they were really religious and never did get their kids a Nintendo. The oldest one even saved up his own money for one, but they forbade him from buying it regardless. They would come over to our house and play ours. Sometimes when we weren't even home. 0_0
The same here my parents were pretty liberal it didn't matter to them,what kind of videos games i played.Though when i was a kid if the grades dropped then the (console&games) would be taken away.
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My parents go to church but they're not bible thumpin' weirdos, so they don't really care what games I play, what I read, etc. Had my behavior changed, though, I'm sure they would've clamped down on the games/movies/books if they thought they were partially to blame.
I turned out alright.
Says who?!? :P
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A) If you tell your kid he can't watch something or read something or whatever- it's gonna make him want to do it even more- especially in his teen years
Hehe the "Cat String Theory" approach,
That's exactly what happened in my Simon's Quest case!
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The same here my parents were pretty liberal it didn't matter to them,what kind of videos games i played.Though when i was a kid if the grades dropped then the (console&games) would be taken away.
Same here Tron. My parents entire philosophy was "do good in school, and you can do whatever you want."
Needless to say, I did very well in school, and was a degenerate a$$hole outside of school. :)
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Gods can't be a christian game, since there is only one GOD described. your parents should have known that and instantly moved away the whole collection of evil games from you.
Actually, if you have a Bible laying around read Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish...."
Interesting isn't it. Us and Our, Meaning their is more than one god. Of course most "Christians" I know have never actually read the bible and believe it says "Man was created in gods image." Because that is what they have been told since they were in Sunday school.
BAM! Gods baby!! :)
Genesis 3:22 also says, And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and..."
Most Christians don't realise that other gods are mentioned in the Bible. Besides Jehovah/the Father/God, Jesus is a god, Satan is a god, Baal is a god, Zeus is a god(there was one other Greek god mentioned in the Bible, I forget which one), there's a scripture where people were referred to as god's. People thought Apostle Paul was a god cuz(IIRC) he was bit by a snake but didn't die. There is a plethora of pagan god's mentioned in the Bible. Ofcoarse, when man was made in "our" likeness, that is atleast referring to Jehovah & Jesus, if not also the angel's. Ofcoarse, most Christian's believe in the Trinity, so they believe Jesus IS God, rather then "a" god, even though Jesus repeatedly say the Father is greater then him, he is acsending to the Father, & he would pray to the Father(was he praying to himself then??). Very confusing. They even use scriptures to try to prove the Trinity, that say the Father & I are one, but, in the same scripture, Jesus says he doesn't speak of his own originality, but the Father's. People think to litteraly, so, in that case, when a husband & wife become one flesh....do they mutate into one creature? When he prayed for his disciples to be one just as he & the Father are one, does that mean he want's them to become some kind of 12 headed monster? Well, this is off topic so....
Anyhoo, one instance I recall is when my friend bought Rastan Saga 2 for the Genny, & I showed it to my dad for some wierd reason. He immediatly had us return the game! Probably because that game is poo!
Ninja Spirit, that chick on the multi headed beast does resemble Babylon the Great, though, the beast in the Bible has 7 heads, not 6. Wierd. Is the game any good, I never even heard of it! If anything, my dad might've actually found that boss interesting.
Sinistron, Schooly D? Really? Wow, I would've never been able to get away with that! Based off of memory for the late 80's, for his time atleast, he was pretty foul compared to alot of other MC's, I don't recall Kool G Rap being all that bad though.
Oh, another thing I remembered, I had a friend who had a GB but wasn't allowed to get Super Mario Land, because the parents thought the fireball was demonic or something to that effect! I love his parents, but, obviously to me that felt like crazy overkill! He was only allowed to play games like Home Alone, stuff like that! I did have to be careful about playing my games around my dad all in all. Mainly violentish stuff, & probably anything that put emphasis on magic, like, stuff like Super Mario was ok, but I'm sure stuff like Cosmic Fantasy or Ys wouldn't of been. But, they didn't look over my shoulder constantly & make me feel bad, so I was able to have various games without them really knowing. Some game names worried me, like Bloody Wolf!
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Sinistron, Schooly D? Really? Wow, I would've never been able to get away with that! Based off of memory for the late 80's, for his time atleast, he was pretty foul compared to alot of other MC's, I don't recall Kool G Rap being all that bad though.
Kool G. Rap had some racy stuff for the time- I remember a track called "Talk Like Sex"... I used to subject my father to Easy E and N.W.A. too- I don't think he cared for it but he was always cool as hell with me and my friends- until that is I started raiding his liquor cabinet. Lol. We'd drink his Wild Turkey and fill the bottle with water.
Such nostalgia for those old cassette days. All the friends I wound up hanging out with later in life were into metal at the time I was into rap- and from rap I went into classic rock and folk of all things. It's funny I think my father was a little more agitated at me playing Doors music 24/7 then me blasting Public Enemy and what not. Gangsters with guns saying "f*ck the police" was okay but Jim Morrison started to make my parents a tic nervous. Maybe it was the lyrics to "The End". Actually that's probably exactly what it was. My father told me years later that he always thought I hated him and wanted to kill him- I used to draw comic books about serial killers and my father always thought the victims represented him (they didn't). Haha. Anyway me and my pops grew very tight years later and by the time he passed away this year he was my favorite person in the world. There's only one thing I don't miss about him- and that's his lasagna. Hard boiled eggs has no business being in lasagna. Other than that- I miss everything.
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It's funny I think my father was a little more agitated at me playing Doors music 24/7 then me blasting Public Enemy and what not. Gangsters with guns saying "f*ck the police" was okay but Jim Morrison started to make my parents a tic nervous.
He knew best. PE aren't gangsters, and they're still alive. Jim Morrison is f*cking dead. Your dad was just looking out for you.
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It's funny I think my father was a little more agitated at me playing Doors music 24/7 then me blasting Public Enemy and what not. Gangsters with guns saying "f*ck the police" was okay but Jim Morrison started to make my parents a tic nervous.
He knew best. PE aren't gangsters, and they're still alive. Jim Morrison is f*cking dead. Your dad was just looking out for you.
Yeah- that was definitely part of it- though my Mom fully supported my listening to Janis Joplin and she died young too
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Thanks a lot, Ninja Spirit. You make a post with the word "religious" and now we get Scientology ads! :-P
Sorry to say it, NS, but... your parents were fascists. Religion and Christianity don't even enter into it. Smashing or confiscating someone else's property because they disagree with its content is the epitome of fascism and intolerance. Plus your parents' complete overreaction when they see anything that hints at the possibility of evil -- without even investigating further or learning about its context -- is knee-jerk ignorance.
Have you moved out of your house yet? I hope so, 'cause you have my sympathies.
Can anyone else not stand it like me when people want to ban or suppress paintings, books, games, etc, that merely depict something evil? Not support it, condone it, or glorify it, just show it. Is there no room for art where a hero is fighting evil? Isn't that what heroism is all about?
Would NS's parents suggest running away like scared villagers at the sight of something evil?
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Thanks a lot, Ninja Spirit. You make a post with the word "religious" and now we get Scientology ads! :-P
Sorry to say it, NS, but... your parents were fascists. Religion and Christianity don't even enter into it. Smashing or confiscating someone else's property because they disagree with its content is the epitome of fascism and intolerance. Plus your parents' complete overreaction when they see anything that hints at the possibility of evil -- without even investigating further or learning about its context -- is knee-jerk ignorance.
Have you moved out of your house yet? I hope so, 'cause you have my sympathies.
Can anyone else not stand it like me when people want to ban or suppress paintings, books, games, etc, that merely depict something evil? Not support it, condone it, or glorify it, just show it. Is there no room for art where a hero is fighting evil? Isn't that what heroism is all about?
Would NS's parents suggest running away like scared villagers at the sight of something evil?
Nah seriously around 1998 or so, all that facism started dying down when my parents separated.
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Can anyone else not stand it like me when people want to ban or suppress paintings, books, games, etc, that merely depict something evil? Not support it, condone it, or glorify it, just show it. Is there no room for art where a hero is fighting evil? Isn't that what heroism is all about?
Agreed - such people are utter twats. The sad thing is is that these overzealous weirdos far too often end up being the ones that use their wives as punching bags, molest their daughters, or bash homosexuality whilst secretly sucking wang at seedy, hourly-rate motels; but hey, at least they're keeping their evil hidden and not making books about it.
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This stuff is so out of my world, it seems strange, but I do recall one of my friend's mom driving me somewhere complaining about her son/my friend playing D&D back in the days and how Satanic it was all that.
I mean, there's definitely room for parents to watch over what their kids are playing/watching/listening to, but reading some of these experiences is definitely almost... surreal to think such things actually happen.
I never realized just how religious the U.S. as a nation was until I left the country and looking back at it in retrospect. In comparison, Aus or Canada seems to be less concerned with religion in their daily dealings with life.
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Missed this thread on the first go-round... lots of good stuff here!
I do not come from a religious family, thus I didn't have any sort of thing along these lines happen to me when I was a kid. I guess I had it easy growing up.... or something.
Only "story" I can recall at all is my dad actually playing Space Harrier a few times. I believe it's the only time in his life he's ever played a video game.
I've got a similar background and a similar Dad story... my parents weren't religious at all, the only impedements I ever had were my limited stash of games and occasional restrictions due to my preferance of video games over school in my teen years.
My Dad story comes in just as we got our first NES... I distinctly remember him showing off the hidden multi-coin block halfway through stage 1-2 of Super Mario Bros... you know the one, just after the second power-up.... Anyway, he was all proud about it. When my turn came up, I showed him where the extra life was, how to get the mushroom, and I whizzed through a couple stages (I had seen the game previously). That pretty much put an end to his video gaming days, except for occasional attempts here and there over the years.
Gods can't be a christian game, since there is only one GOD described. your parents should have known that and instantly moved away the whole collection of evil games from you.
Actually, if you have a Bible laying around read Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish...."
Interesting isn't it. Us and Our, Meaning their is more than one god. Of course most "Christians" I know have never actually read the bible and believe it says "Man was created in gods image." Because that is what they have been told since they were in Sunday school.
BAM! Gods baby!! :)
Genesis 3:22 also says, And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and..."
... there's a scripture where people were referred to as god's.
Are you referring to Psalms 82:6 ?? Psalms 82 is a very interesting one...
It's funny I think my father was a little more agitated at me playing Doors music 24/7 then me blasting Public Enemy and what not. Gangsters with guns saying "f*ck the police" was okay but Jim Morrison started to make my parents a tic nervous.
He knew best. PE aren't gangsters, and they're still alive. Jim Morrison is f*cking dead. Your dad was just looking out for you.
Shaky rap knowledge at best Zeta: F___ the police was N.W.A., and of course Eazy E passed away 15+ years ago...
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This stuff is so out of my world, it seems strange, but I do recall one of my friend's mom driving me somewhere complaining about her son/my friend playing D&D back in the days and how Satanic it was all that.
I mean, there's definitely room for parents to watch over what their kids are playing/watching/listening to, but reading some of these experiences is definitely almost... surreal to think such things actually happen.
I never realized just how religious the U.S. as a nation was until I left the country and looking back at it in retrospect. In comparison, Aus or Canada seems to be less concerned with religion in their daily dealings with life.
My parents, thankfully, were pretty progressive in most respects. I earned good grades and they trusted I wasn't watching snuff films.
Born Again
My grandmother became a "Born Again" Christian in the 80's and that is when she became concerned about D&D (old skool)--I suppose she likened it to a cult. She also was deeply concerned about music I listened to (the Iron Maiden and Dio cover art did not help me).
She gave me a short book to read about the dangers/demons/satanism associated with D&D. I was very respectful and assured her that D&D was not evil...she wanted to believe me, but I think she was truly worried for my safety. I suppose she secrectly hoped I would grow tired of D&D and move on to something less vile (I eventually did, but it took a few years longer than she would have liked).
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My mom was pretty strict but she had reason. She didn't like street fighter because you could beat up a girl. I just promised not to do a Chun-Li match in front of my siblings. Lol
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my parents never really stopped me from doing anything since my grades didn't suffer and I stayed out of trouble.
I got into trouble at school early on a lot, but then they (the school) realized I would finish the dumb work way too fast and be bored and find ways to amuse myself... usually by catapulting shit across the room off my ruler, or by seeing how far back I could tip my chair before I fell over. I swear the chair makers made the little feet on the legs pivot just so we could amuse ourselves.
I wasn't turning into a lethargic shut in, I didn't walk around punching girls or talking about shooting people because of DOOM, and I was still sort of social. I even gave sports a shot and finally said "these are all really boring". Except for tennis and rollerskating.
So they were like "well whats the harm?". Then I started building computers and programming stuff, and getting into boardgames that confused the hell out of everyone, and D&D. They were like oh, hes really into math and puzzles and challenging crap. OK!
Then I started wearing strange clothes and they went ARE YOU ON DRUGS? and i said "Why would I be on drugs, that'd just mean I spent my money on dope instead of on sega games. I cant replay dope after I smoke it. I just think these look neat so I wear them. Drugs are for fags" << This is exactly what I said, at the age of 12, lol.
and they went ^_^ ok.
from my POV, you have to respect your kids interests, try to be involved (my dad played SF II and Doom too), and support what they get into unless it is clearly bad for them or having a negative impact on their life. Trust them until they f*ck it all up. THATS when you should start restricting crap.
My girlfriends mom used to take her anime and CDs and crap and throw them out BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CHRISTIAN, and crap. Yeah, cause Inuyasha is TOTALLY satanic. Totally.
When parents take an ignorant approach to what their kids are getting into, thats when shit starts to get messy. The kid rebels, the parent is no longer informed about what they're doing.... then they could fall into the wrong crowd, start snorting coke, stealing shit, whatever. Don't piss off your kids or push them away! You'll regret it.
Though, everyone here is legit, so I don't think anyones going to raise retarded kids.
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My parents got me the NES game "Exodus" as an alternative to regular games. Man that game sucks but I'm drawn to it and am looking for another copy. It had bible trivia in between levels and told the story of exodus while Moses blasts away at baddies. Oh and the "father abraham" song repeats over and over and over and over.
Other than that they didn't care other than limiting my play time by only letting me rent games every so often so I played what repetedly.
I now have a baby and think about how I want to handle games with him when he gets older because I have a good size collection. On one hand I want to play games with him but on the other I might be turning into my parents. Maybe I'll make him play Exodus and keep my good stuff off limits.
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My parents got me the NES game "Exodus" as an alternative to regular games. Man that game sucks but I'm drawn to it and am looking for another copy. It had bible trivia in between levels and told the story of exodus while Moses blasts away at baddies. Oh and the "father abraham" song repeats over and over and over and over.
Other than that they didn't care other than limiting my play time by only letting me rent games every so often so I played what repetedly.
I now have a baby and think about how I want to handle games with him when he gets older because I have a good size collection. On one hand I want to play games with him but on the other I might be turning into my parents. Maybe I'll make him play Exodus and keep my good stuff off limits.
If I were you I would let him choose between "Exodus" and "Ultima:Exodus" ... Gotta give him a fighting chance at least!
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I think limiting a kids play time is a really stupid idea unless the kid has:
1) poor hygiene, sleeping, or socializing habits. If he smells because he didn't want to shower since he had to beat a game, or he sleeps 45 seconds a day, or he never visits when family shows up...... limit him til he learns better
2) bad grades. If hes bailing on homework to play games and is doing shitty, limit him
3) anger issues. If hes smashing controllers, etc.
Other than that, wtfs the point? I had a friend whos parents would let us play Sega for an hour, and then let us go outside and flail around like jackasses for as long as we wanted.
I don't know about you guys, but skateboarding down sloped streets and crashing into stuff on bikes, and other acts of young-kid stupidity, are pretty bad. I'd rather my kid be playing Sega all day than have him be outside smacking his face on parked cars at 20 mph on a skateboard. >_>
Theres this kid I went to school with. his parents were severely religious. They went to my church. I used to show up with KISS tshirts on, bright red hair, D&D books to read if I got bored... shit like that. They would point at me and make remarks and whatever else, and tell the kid not to be like me. They even had one of the pastor-dudes lecture me about the dangers of playing Magic the Gathering:
"Son, your card here has Defender of Chaos. Chaos is a satanic group of men and women (I was all like "Citation needed"). This game could corrupt you and make you do evil things". I said "what about the white cards. They're all holy. Theres angels, and paladins. They destroy evil."
He goes "Well, which do you prefer" and I said "Neither really! Check out these blue cards. This dragons pretty cool. He kills angels really easy, and these elves in the green section usually demolish the pansy evil guys. But really, the goblins are awesome." and I took out all the goblin cards to show him. Then he was like completely irritated and started in about D&D next.
"Well now, D&D you take the role of cultists and witches and invoke satanic spells" and I was like whoaa hohohhhh wait a second now, there is no Satan in D&D, and started naming all the demons/devils, lol. Then I was like yeah man, and you got cthulu, hes a real douche. I like Bards. They get all the sluts because they're flamboyant and tell stories and serenade them.
He said some other crap and then I finally said look dickhead have you ever played any of these games?
His response: No but I do play Pokemon.
*facepalm*
Anyway, me and the sheltered tard went to the same college. I got a free ride, had a higher GPA, and slept thru classes he struggled in (he went for engineering, I went for puter skyints). Proof that religious bullshit has no real impact on your schooling/education. If it was so much better, he should have done way better, right? His pure, corruption free upbringing should've made his life way better, yeah?
He was allowed to view screens for 2 hours per day. This includes TV, computer, and video games. 2 hours. That is all. Not being allowed to rot his brain on the internet at 3am on the weekends really paid off. So did all the religious sheltering. Not being allowed to watch PG-13 movies when you're 17 is pretty frigging retarded. OH THEY SAID SHIT. ITS THE DEVIL. STOP IT.
Now hes out in the real world, socially awkward, clueless about so many things, and wears sweatpants with polo shirts. Tucked in.
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Now hes out in the real world, socially awkward, clueless about so many things, and wears sweatpants with polo shirts. Tucked in.
LOL my wifes uncle wears polos tucked into sweat pants pulled up to between his belly button and nipples, with suspenders and orthopedic WalMart Velcro shoes. Its the goofiest thing I've ever seen. Doesn't help he's shaped like humpty dumpty.
Yeah I agree, there's no problem with games as long as it doesn't interfere with real life. My friend across the streets mom owned a game shop in 1994 and we could play any game that was opened whenever we wanted but we still spent more time playing outside.
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My parents stopped going to church when we were old enough to realize it was a bunch of BS - I was nine and my brother would have been 15. Apparently, my parents were only going to church to be part of a community, but that wasn't enough for them and they never looked back. I never really had issues playing music or video games.
But I did have one experience when I was visiting a friend (Joe) at his house - keep in mind I was at least 17, if not 18. While my friend was in the shower getting ready, I was in his room going through some of his cassette tapes. I came across NWA and popped it in. Well holy hell. Joe's mother came barging in the room yelling and screaming at me about the music, as if it was mine. I didn't even like NWA that much. At the time, I actually thought NWA was the beginning of the end for hip hop, at least good hip hop, though a couple of the tunes were a guilty pleasure. Anyway, Joe's mom always held that against me. From that moment on I was a bad influence on her innocent little Joe. I think only in the past few years she's really gotten over that. Pretty unbelievable.
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Are we talkin bout JOE REDIFIEFER?
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I was ok with playing outside, but when the weather was too sticky or windy, id rather be inside playing games. The only thing I enjoyed more than games growing up was riding my bike in the creek, submerged up to my chin, trying to pedal the f*cker.
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Are we talkin bout JOE REDIFIEFER?
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haha. No. Not teh redman.
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my family went to church, though not every week, so i got a bit of balance on that end.
my mom always just stuck with the ratings on the box, my dad didn't care.
also, there was no real regulation on the friend side of things, my parents were smart enough to realize that they can't control everything.
though, i still remember the first day i had zelda ocarina of time, i described the first boss fight and my mom said "what's this game rated again?" "E" "oh, okay, just so you know, if it was T or something, you would've just wasted your money."
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What no one has said it yet?
"Hey Mom, got this new game called DEVIL'S crush!" *ducks*
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My parents were pretty cool with the games mostly, but music was their target. Both of them were fairly agnostic, but they held some religious principles tightly against my sister and I. When I brought License to Ill home by the Beastie Boys, it was on. They confiscated it from me. Finding it, I made a copy in my bad-ass dual cassette boombox and whenever there was a bad word said, I would stop recording for a split second and then start again, a primitive 80's way to censor stuff out. I had to do the same when Appetite for Destruction came out because it was arguably harsher in it's language. With that, my parents rolled their eyes at my music, but they didn't try to take it from me anymore.
I think that, because my father bought me a 2600 back in '78, they felt like they had introduced me to games and left me alone about it. Nowadays, when they visit, my mother laments the fact that my basement is covered with my video games, arcades stuff and computers. Thinks I need to "grow up" despite the fact I'm part of the original video game generation. Like I'll ever stop playing. :roll: