RGB mod an NES2?

[HercTNT]

And i was being a wise guy because i thought arkhan was being sarcastic as well. had no idea he was serious. oops..........

[DragonmasterDan]

Yes, but the thing is I already have an NES2 and a toaster, lol.  I'm lookin for as cheap as possible here.  Maybe I will just AV mod the NES2 and see just how bad the composite is. lol

I have an AV modded NES 2, the composite is as good or slightly better than the toaster. Mine was done by mason sushi.

[Arkhan]

I'd just hook up a Mac Mini or a Dreamcast or something else than can run a NES emu to the TV and pretend it was a NES.

That doesn't help me very much since I want to be able to use all my saves, and my FDS.

and, HercTNT: Its ok, your post made me laugh.

[HercTNT]

Hey man i try. Jokes on me, i thought you were having fun with them and they were all missing the gag. I thought i would jump in and really turn it up. Turns out i'm the dummy

[Samurai Ghost]

Buy a AV Famicom and a converter to play NES games on it. The composite out isn't too bad.
Here's mine:



Other than that, you could do something like this guy did and fit a mini PC into a toaster with HDMI out:


Yeah, it's emulation so it's a dirty piece shit but if you want high quality output it's pretty much your only option.

Or you could, you know, play your NES on a CRT like god intended. f*ck flatscreen TVs!

[incrediblehark]

if you're going the way of rgb, pick up a vs duck hunt for the ppu, usually cheaper than a playchice-10, and only rgb mod an AV Famicom. If you use any other nes/famicom variant for the rgb you get noticeable jailbars and interference. but not all games are compatible, like just breed, the immortal, felix the cat to name a few.

[Arkhan]

im trying to avoid buying/importing another system when I already have an NES and an NES2.

and, screw emulating.  I can't use my carts/saves with that.

and, yeah, CRTs are great, when you have the room to set that up.  arcade cabinets take precedence.

[ccovell]

Here ya go:  Composite FC/NES on an X-RGB2+ (LCD monitor)






Compare with RGB screengrabs/CRT shots here:

http://www.chrismcovell.com/gotRGB/rgb_compare.html
http://www.chrismcovell.com/gotRGB/screenshots.html

And... if you have an arcade cab, why aren't you hooking your systems via RGB to that?

[Arkhan]

Here ya go:  Composite FC/NES on an X-RGB2+ (LCD monitor)

And... if you have an arcade cab, why aren't you hooking your systems via RGB to that?

I guess that is acceptable looking.  the NES is the only console that won't be experiencing RGB.

I don't hook the systems up to an arcade cabinet, because that is impractical. What am I going to do, stand up while playing games, or sit staring up at a Neo Geo cabinet? .. with a bunch of wires and shit dangling out of it? No thanks.

the 55" TV + surround sound setup is already nice and setup with all of my other stuff, with a comfortable chair aimed at it. 

[Samurai Ghost]

As long as there is no lag or ghosting or anything weird graphically, once you are into the game I doubt you'd really notice the difference anyway. And let's be honest, the NES isn't exactly a graphical powerhouse, even compared to other systems available at the time.

[Arkhan]

As long as there is no lag or ghosting or anything weird graphically, once you are into the game I doubt you'd really notice the difference anyway. And let's be honest, the NES isn't exactly a graphical powerhouse, even compared to other systems available at the time.

that is exactly why I am not that worried about it.  Most NES games look pretty derpy due to color limitations, so oh well. 

The game I am most worried about looking like sloppy cooter is Faxanadu. 

When you use composite in straight on a LCD TV, is it doing anything there that would cause lag, or is it only if you use an XRGB or similar device.

[grahf]

Well, as we all know LCD TVs have incredibly shitty upscalers built in. In addition to the awful video quality, you'll get varying degrees of lag as well. It really depends on the TV.

Micomsoft (The XRGB guys) were using a cool video at their booth when they were showing off the new XRGB Mini. The ring-timer-thing lets you see exactly how far behind each interface is. It would be cool to get ahold of a DVD or something with this on it, and do a side by side comparison with CRT and LCD.

[Arkhan]

Do these XRGBDoodlerjobbers introduce enough latency to render games unplayable?

[grahf]

In analog mode, no. In digital out, a little lag.
The XRGB-3 has a bit of lag when using the DVI out, but it's not terrible. The Mini has almost no lag. The pic above is a comparison between the two.
I'm not 100% sure about the 1 or 2(+).

[Arkhan]

In analog mode, no. In digital out, a little lag.
The XRGB-3 has a bit of lag when using the DVI out, but it's not terrible. The Mini has almost no lag. The pic above is a comparison between the two.
I'm not 100% sure about the 1 or 2(+).

Is that framemeister thing any good?  I keep finding those for sale more than I can find a 1 or 2.  

So I won't notice lag if I go RGB in to VGA out? (with appropriate cables)