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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2012, 09:13:47 AM »
I think its awesome.  If he is happy then who cares. 

its not that.

its that the media suddenly makes a scene about setups like this, when its f*ckin normal and been done for the past like 20 years by the rest of us

Yeah it is annoying when shit like this goes viral. But just remember that the people who send this shit around are the same people who still send chain emails, virus warnings, and forward you pictures of bunnies paired with bible quotes.

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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2012, 12:54:22 PM »

That is rather sleek but I hate having more than one or two consoles out at a time. When I am done with a game I usually move to another system and meticulously pack the previous one up and put it away in the old closet until the day its services are once again required.

Especially since I try to buy every old system new and mint I feel when left outside they somehow age faster.

They do for a fact collect dust faster and in case of certain consoles, like the much cursed ugly form of the SNES, the plastic yellows faster if exposed to light.

My current setup has two top of the line CRT's unceremoniously put upon the ground with a pair of chest high tower speakers erected like marble pillars to their sides so I can fully enjoy the sights and sounds of the good old genenations.

What my setup lacks in elegance it more than makes up for in raw fidelity.

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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2012, 01:21:08 PM »
Lol.  I airbrushed my SNES really gaudy colors to ensure it'd be worthless to anyone else so I'd never be tempted to sell it.  :P

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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2012, 02:20:40 PM »
They do for a fact collect dust faster and in case of certain consoles, like the much cursed ugly form of the SNES, the plastic yellows faster if exposed to light.

Sunlight.  Not all light.

and, who cares if the plastic is in pristine condition.  Its plastic.  Its rugged.  The insides are what is important.

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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2012, 02:26:22 PM »
Ask any attractive girl to.....
woah...who are you kidding you have to pay to get close to an attractive girl.

The lighted shelving does look good though, the average person looking at this would be in awwwww but there are a lot of other setups i have seen that look just as good or better.

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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2012, 03:48:30 PM »
Sunlight.  Not all light.

and, who cares if the plastic is in pristine condition.  Its plastic.  Its rugged.  The insides are what is important.



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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2012, 04:29:28 PM »
The SNES turned yellow when exposed to air, not light.  The chemicals in the plastic oxidize.  If it were sunlight, the damage would not be so uniform and consistent throughout the entire piece of plastic.  My SNES never left my basement and the bottom of it (and only the bottom) turned yellow.  I, of course, swapped that out with a good bottom from my friend's old unit that he gave to me which lived upstairs in his house, exposed to sunlight.  Not all plastics came from the same mix or likely even the same factory, thus the reason not all parts of the SNES or even all SNESes yellow.
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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2012, 05:28:27 PM »
yeah my SNES is not yellow at all, and its been out and been played for years and years

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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2012, 05:33:21 PM »
I think its awesome.  If he is happy then who cares. 

its not that.

its that the media suddenly makes a scene about setups like this, when its f*ckin normal and been done for the past like 20 years by the rest of us

I didnt really see a scene at all.
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« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2012, 06:32:06 PM »
Personally I thought the guys setup was ok. Its a bit streamlined really and not traditional/old school looking though, so no real charm as it were. As far as using composite goes on his LCD, I cant say what kind of quality he gets, but I use it on mine for some things like Nes, and I used to use it for Pce back when I got my LCD originally, and it did fine. Actually, I really liked the way game stuff looked on it. Mine is a Toshiba though and I have the option to not stretch anything and my set is calibrated well. I stopped using crt tvs in my room, and stuck one in the living room for my daughter to use, and my son has the other one. Right now the only classic game system stuff I buy and play is Nes and Snes, and I wont be going back to a crt for them anytime soon.

Also like to point out, not much really wrong with using composite on TG/Pce, or Snes, or lets say something like Saturn, Ps1, 3DO, or Jaguar if you have to. Those systems had pretty solid quality composite output right from the start that wont hinder the enjoyment much. Now, if hes using composite on crap like Genesis where the composite signal was just shit, then that blows. The Genesis, NeoGeo AES, and Master Systems original composite is shity enough to actually full on warrant putting in extra effort to get RGB or Svideo out.

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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2012, 04:37:22 AM »
I think its awesome.  If he is happy then who cares. 

its not that.

its that the media suddenly makes a scene about setups like this, when its f*ckin normal and been done for the past like 20 years by the rest of us

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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2012, 04:41:00 AM »
The Genesis, NeoGeo AES, and Master Systems original composite is shity enough to actually full on warrant putting in extra effort to get RGB

why putting extra effort in these, when they putting out RGB natively?
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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2012, 04:57:06 AM »
The Genesis, NeoGeo AES, and Master Systems original composite is shity enough to actually full on warrant putting in extra effort to get RGB

why putting extra effort in these, when they putting out RGB natively?

Exactly.

I suppose a minimal amount of effort is required in that you need to grab a scart cable and have a TV that accepts an RGB scart input, or a component input and use an encoder, but the results are well worth it.

It goes deeper than the type of video connection though; yes some consoles do actually have a rather decent composite output (such as the SNES) yet it still looks like turd on a modern LCD TV.

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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2012, 06:10:18 AM »
The point is that the guy has like a dozen LE PS2s, a custom shelf with vanity lighting, and all sorts of bling blong dumb shit and he's using composite in an LCD. His priorities are all out of whack, gaming-wise.

And composite itself is not a huge problem if the display matches, but I have yet to see an LCD that produces a picture from a composite signal that is even half as good as what a early 90s Kmart TV would have produced over RF. Some people are evidently blind.

Recently I went to a guy's house to buy a used laserdisc player. This was a CLD D604, which is just middle of the road quality-wise. He wanted to re-collect his old setup from the 90s so he was done with this clunker and wanted a CLD97, which is a really really nice piece of gear. The problem was that when I demoed the unit before buying it on his massive-ass 60 LCD it looked like SHIIIIIIT. Now I know this player is middle of the road, makes some noise on reds I can't seem to tune out, but that wasn't the problem. %99 of the problem with the picture was with his set. It looks just fine on my CRT at home. There is so much of that pale foggy blurriness coming from his stupid-ass TV (which was not a cheap set as far as I could tell, a Pioneer) that I don't see how you could even tell the difference between a 604 and a 97. It would be like trying to figure out what brand of gun you were just shot with by how the bullet hole feels.

One of the discs I brought to test this unit before I bought it was Manhattan (1979). I chose this because there is a scene where a guy has a shirt with a fine checker print on it and it tends to produce a distractingly extreme Moiré effect for the time its on screen, maybe 30 seconds. When I played this on his set it was different than I was used to. The area around the guys jacket and tie didn't produce the effect at all (the checker pattern just turned to mud) but in the more open and unobscured areas it was massively pronounced to a comically horrible degree. Obviously my test was useless since the display was making the test of the output impossible to use.

But like I said, some people evidently just can't tell. Some people can't tell the difference between a BMW and a Buick either, and honestly for those people it really would be a waste of money to get the BMW or the X-RGB or whatever, I guess. If they can't see it, I can't show it to them, and probably they are better off. Having a hyper tuned aesthetic is more or a curse than a blessing most of the time.
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Re: Nice set up
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2012, 07:23:30 AM »
The point is that the guy has like a dozen LE PS2s, a custom shelf with vanity lighting, and all sorts of bling blong dumb shit and he's using composite in an LCD. His priorities are all out of whack, gaming-wise.

And composite itself is not a huge problem if the display matches, but I have yet to see an LCD that produces a picture from a composite signal that is even half as good as what a early 90s Kmart TV would have produced over RF. Some people are evidently blind.

Recently I went to a guy's house to buy a used laserdisc player. This was a CLD D604, which is just middle of the road quality-wise. He wanted to re-collect his old setup from the 90s so he was done with this clunker and wanted a CLD97, which is a really really nice piece of gear. The problem was that when I demoed the unit before buying it on his massive-ass 60 LCD it looked like SHIIIIIIT. Now I know this player is middle of the road, makes some noise on reds I can't seem to tune out, but that wasn't the problem. %99 of the problem with the picture was with his set. It looks just fine on my CRT at home. There is so much of that pale foggy blurriness coming from his stupid-ass TV (which was not a cheap set as far as I could tell, a Pioneer) that I don't see how you could even tell the difference between a 604 and a 97. It would be like trying to figure out what brand of gun you were just shot with by how the bullet hole feels.

One of the discs I brought to test this unit before I bought it was Manhattan (1979). I chose this because there is a scene where a guy has a shirt with a fine checker print on it and it tends to produce a distractingly extreme Moiré effect for the time its on screen, maybe 30 seconds. When I played this on his set it was different than I was used to. The area around the guys jacket and tie didn't produce the effect at all (the checker pattern just turned to mud) but in the more open and unobscured areas it was massively pronounced to a comically horrible degree. Obviously my test was useless since the display was making the test of the output impossible to use.

But like I said, some people evidently just can't tell. Some people can't tell the difference between a BMW and a Buick either, and honestly for those people it really would be a waste of money to get the BMW or the X-RGB or whatever, I guess. If they can't see it, I can't show it to them, and probably they are better off. Having a hyper tuned aesthetic is more or a curse than a blessing most of the time.


Well yeah obviously LD, CED, and VCR tech is going to look like complete ass on a LCD without a good upscaler. Basically it presents a muddy blurry image half the time. Its just how the LCD handles that stuff. I ended up getting rid of all my LD stuff though anyway, as I had most of it on DVD. The VCR stuf is downstairs on a crt.

Game systems usually just look like they are running off a emulator without the scanlines if you have a solid LCD, and if your LCD has a good game mode then you can get a pretty good picture out of it. These pics are kinda old, as they were for auctions and I was trying to get the Nes deck and the TV both in the shot and only needed to show the system worked, but at any rate:




When I get time later I will take better shots from a correct angle, but seriously, I'm pretty happy with the image I get.