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TheClash603

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Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2012, 12:35:11 AM »
Well, I was excited for this thing until someone posted it isn't an official product, just some licensed garbage.  I wonder what the price will be though, because at a low price it could still be okay.

As far as the best handheld goes, I think anyone who disagrees with the GBA is a bit of a fool.  Don't get me wrong, the NGPC is awesome and the percentage of quality games on the system is outstanding.  However, the GBA with its backward compatability can't be touched.

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2012, 12:57:05 AM »
That's a fair point, but as far as the games actually released for it are concerned, it wasn't such a great thing.  I remember the first time I saw it, and I knew that it was the first machine (as far as I knew) that came close to the GT, but at that time (in fact starting with the GBC), games companies were cashing in more than ever with shitty film and game tie-ins.

I'm pretty nostalgic for the original gameboy, and the games people released just for gameplay's sake, and some of the lost ideas when video games were still finding their way.

And while backwards compatability is a given, I prefer to play:
GB games on a pocket
Advance games on a Micro/SP AGS101
GBC games on an AGS101

I just found one of my old outlook post-it's from my Monster Hunter Freedom days, and I was missing 6 end-tier weapons, and a few titles.  It would have taken a while, but it seems these are the last things I needed for every final weapon;

smolder dragonsword.....2 azure lao horns
inferno dragonsword ....2 lao rubies :(

Sanctioned blades...........8 az horns 5 thundersacs

Cursed Spirit.....................twisted black blos horn

Black Ruiner lance...........1 devil eye

Nocturne Gigaton.............7 strong grav wings (!!!)
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2012, 01:17:09 AM »
I just found one of my old outlook post-it's from my Monster Hunter Freedom days, and I was missing 6 end-tier weapons, and a few titles.  It would have taken a while, but it seems these are the last things I needed for every final weapon;

smolder dragonsword.....2 azure lao horns
inferno dragonsword ....2 lao rubies :(

Sanctioned blades...........8 az horns 5 thundersacs

Cursed Spirit.....................twisted black blos horn

Black Ruiner lance...........1 devil eye

Nocturne Gigaton.............7 strong grav wings (!!!)

Yowza, you seem to be pretty good with MH :P
I played most of the time alone, sometimes a group of people would gather to play some and then I played with them as well. Later on, a friend I tried to introduce the game to picked it up again and got stuck - so we played for quite a bit. We reached the G-rank monsters, but I can't remember how far we got.
Right now we're playing MHP3 instead, english patch & all that. I'm liking it, and what they have done to the gunlance (and the other weapons) but I miss the female Hermitaur armour - really liked how it looked. Kirin, Hermitaur & Narga armoured characters were like mascots in the fandom surrounding the games :P
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2012, 03:55:09 AM »
Yeah, I had the Hermitaur armour in... Freedom 2 or whatever.  I didn't play the other two as much.  Still in the hundreds of hours though!

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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2012, 06:38:44 AM »
To be %100 fair, the GBA probably is the best handheld ever. Its more or less as powerful as a SNES (greater in some ways, inferior in others) which means its basically all 2D games taken to their limit. It can do some polygonal bullshit, but luckily there is very little of it. The GBA library is amazingly massive and diverse, and the Micro and SP have some of the best screens and form factors of all time. The SP is probably the best since it can play games all the way back to b/w GB. Advance Wars 1, Astro Boy, Super Robot Wars J, Initial D, Drill Dozer, Metroid Fusion, Warioware Twisted, damn this system is good. People need to not get so hung up on the stuff like Bratz and Barbie and Army Men. It doesn't matter that shitsoft was made for it, what matters is that great stuff was made for it.

The PSP just doesn't have the diversity in software. Its more of a "big gun" in the sense that I'll buy a PSP game and get SUPER into it for quite a while...and then it just doesn't get used because there isn't enough software. The screen is amazing.

The DS is like this too. I'll get really into a Layton or Rhythm Heaven game and then put it back on the shelf.

The NEC handhelds aren't that great. HuCard-only battery hogs with unreadable screens. Very comfortable to hold, and absolutely cutting edge for the time, but very little use today. The LT isn't a handheld at all unless you wear a f*cking battery belt.

The NGP is probably second place for me. The game library is small, for sure, but they are such charming games. Aside form the Pachislot BS they are ALL amazing. Sure, the screen isn't backlit, which is a pain, but that's part of why you get FIFTY f*ckING HOURS of battery life. Try that on...anything else. Then there is the fact that this thing is SNK all the way and has the best 8 direction stick/pad to ever appear in the history of video games.

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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2012, 12:17:11 PM »
The only prob. I had with the GBA was its noisy low-fi sound.
Why in the hell, did they use such a crappy sound chip, when everything else was so high-end?
 
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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2012, 12:39:17 PM »
The NGPC's soundchip was a bunch of bleeps and bloops. Did the GBC have a better soundchip?

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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2012, 01:59:56 PM »
The only prob. I had with the GBA was its noisy low-fi sound.
Why in the hell, did they use such a crappy sound chip, when everything else was so high-end?
 

That was the first thing i noticed as well. Bing! Great graphics on startup GBA splash screen, coupled with what sounded like a busted sega genesis Z-80.
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2012, 02:09:21 PM »
The NGPC was too short lived, unfortunately, for developers to really push the system in terms of graphics, and most of the titles just did not appeal to me, and the sound left something to be desired after years of being spoiled by what was the mighty NEO GEO mvs. I got spoiled having one hooked up to a kick ass sound system, and 19"( that was big for 1990 standards), and then going to that. Was a solid little poece of hardware, and the best clicky 8 way joystick on any system to this day, but i was just let down, and the sadness of knowing SNK was sinking fast at that time, made it clear there was no hope for the machine and developers to mature.

I have the PSP with CFW, but looking for something a little lighter and just as decent. The GP32 wiz Caanoo looks pretty decent. Was going to may e get the Dingoo A380, but have read too many negative things about support, and buggy emulators.

Anyone have the Caanoo?
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2012, 02:23:09 PM »
Who the hell buys a SNK system and is then disappointed that it didn't take off or gain more developers? That makes zero sense! You're surprised that something with "Neo Geo" in it's name wasn't a huge hit? WTF...

Regarding sound on the GBA: yeah, this was rather disapointing. I didn't really hit me until Yoshi's Island came out. The SFC version had such smooth buttery tunes...the GBA had the exact same music...but scratchy and shitty as all get out. Rather sad.

The NGPC's soundchip was a bunch of bleeps and bloops. Did the GBC have a better soundchip?

The GBC? No. Much worse. GBC sound was basically identical to b/w GB sound.


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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2012, 02:59:08 PM »
The GBC? No. Much worse. GBC sound was basically identical to b/w GB sound.

But which still was quite good sound, if handled by the right persons.
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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2012, 04:31:35 PM »
Not quite true. The original brick Gameboy had a damn fine sound chip, and many of the best sounding games sound like shit on a GBC.

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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2012, 01:10:51 AM »
To be %100 fair, the GBA probably is the best handheld ever. Its more or less as powerful as a SNES (greater in some ways, inferior in others) which means its basically all 2D games taken to their limit. It can do some polygonal bullshit, but luckily there is very little of it. The GBA library is amazingly massive and diverse, and the Micro and SP have some of the best screens and form factors of all time. The SP is probably the best since it can play games all the way back to b/w GB. Advance Wars 1, Astro Boy, Super Robot Wars J, Initial D, Drill Dozer, Metroid Fusion, Warioware Twisted, damn this system is good. People need to not get so hung up on the stuff like Bratz and Barbie and Army Men. It doesn't matter that shitsoft was made for it, what matters is that great stuff was made for it.

The PSP just doesn't have the diversity in software. Its more of a "big gun" in the sense that I'll buy a PSP game and get SUPER into it for quite a while...and then it just doesn't get used because there isn't enough software. The screen is amazing.

The DS is like this too. I'll get really into a Layton or Rhythm Heaven game and then put it back on the shelf.

The NEC handhelds aren't that great. HuCard-only battery hogs with unreadable screens. Very comfortable to hold, and absolutely cutting edge for the time, but very little use today. The LT isn't a handheld at all unless you wear a f*cking battery belt.

The NGP is probably second place for me. The game library is small, for sure, but they are such charming games. Aside form the Pachislot BS they are ALL amazing. Sure, the screen isn't backlit, which is a pain, but that's part of why you get FIFTY f*ckING HOURS of battery life. Try that on...anything else. Then there is the fact that this thing is SNK all the way and has the best 8 direction stick/pad to ever appear in the history of video games.


Well, I think I finally disagree with Zeta.  While I will say there are some excellent games on the GBA, it's a tiny percentage of the overall (GBA) library.  Don't get me wrong, I love the thing, and I own 10 of the f*ckers in the various form factors, plus most of the great non-ridiculous $$$ games.  But the fact is, I only own about 30 games, some which aren't all that, and there's very little else I want for the system.

The PSP I have about maybe 25 games for, all of which have more depth than anything but the very deepest GBA games (and I count Yoshi's Island there <3), and many of which I've been really sucked into for 10's to hundreds of hours.  I'm talking:
Burnout Legends
Ace Combat X
Streetfighter Alpha 3 Max
GTA VCS
GTA LCS
Medal of Honour Heroes
EchoChrome
metal gear Peace Walker
Monster Hunter [whichever you want]

There are more, and I'm sure, careful though I am, I haven't picked out the only PSP games I like.  Plus with its video and Internet capabilities, the PSP is the greatest handheld console yet made.  I also like the DS, but for specific games like Layton and Ghost Trick.

In its own time, I'd say the Gameboy (original) was probably the greatest handheld of all time, just for library, longievity, and being so forward thinking yet perfectly marketed.  It's an icon for a reason.

But, I still love the PC Engine, and a full colour handheld that plays the entire library of PCE HuCards, was MINDBLOWING at the time, even with its disadvantages.  There was nothing like it, and the lynx was ass compared.

The NGPC came out way later, and while it was well considered, like a colour version of the original gameboy, with some neat 3rd party games, it was a bust.  It came out too late, not every game is great, and even the good ones lack depth.  except maybe Metal Slug and Card Fighters (if I can work out how to play it), and the latter was riding on the coat tails of Pokemon.

I like the NGPC, but whether we're talking all-time, or in it's own time, it was never a "great" console.  At least it wasn't ass though (lynx).

Here's my Gamefaqs review of the Lynx http://www.gamefaqs.com/lynx/916379-lynx/reviews/review-147593

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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2012, 02:30:19 AM »


There are more, and I'm sure, careful though I am, I haven't picked out the only PSP games I like.  Plus with its video and Internet capabilities, the PSP is the greatest handheld console yet made.  I also like the DS, but for specific games like Layton and Ghost Trick.

I disagree, the PSP makes my hand go numb with extended use, both the 1000 and 3000 models I own are guilty of this. It's an ergonomic nightmare.
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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2012, 02:39:00 AM »
I don't have lady-hands, so this isn't a problem for me ;)