Author Topic: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console  (Read 7309 times)

Mishran

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1440
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #180 on: July 05, 2013, 10:43:20 AM »
Seems to me like user error. But of course, not all X's are built the same. Could be one little file being different that could be causing the problems, but I'm gonna still chalk it up to user error. That and poor quality of the system, "rocket" cable, and game cards.

futureman2000

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 388
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #181 on: July 05, 2013, 11:49:08 AM »
Are those joysticks pretty nice, though? I'm thinking about getting one to use with my pc, and I've heard mixed opinions.
Take off yer flip flops and set up the tripod: it's bag kickin' time!

Mishran

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1440
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #182 on: July 05, 2013, 12:01:48 PM »
If you haves used an original neo stick, you will notice a considerable difference. The sticks aren't bad though IMO. I've used one of my sticks on a PC a few times and it works good. May require some fiddling with the emulator setting to make it register the joystick. Sometimes windows sees it as a hat switch instead as a regular stick.

SignOfZeta

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8497
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #183 on: July 05, 2013, 12:45:07 PM »
The NGX stick is nearly identical to the AES one but not quite. With a bit of work (that Tommo should have done) you can make it perfect. I've used it on OSX and PS3.

TheClash603

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4054
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #184 on: July 05, 2013, 01:45:35 PM »
The NGX stick is nearly identical to the AES one but not quite. With a bit of work (that Tommo should have done) you can make it perfect. I've used it on OSX and PS3.

What is this work of which you speak?

whisper2053

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 413
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #185 on: July 05, 2013, 02:01:38 PM »
The NGX stick is nearly identical to the AES one but not quite. With a bit of work (that Tommo should have done) you can make it perfect. I've used it on OSX and PS3.

What is this work of which you speak?

More than likely replacing the stick and buttons/switches with quality parts (as opposed to what is inside them being NOT quality...). Makes all the difference in the world once you have some Seimitsu or Sanwa stuff in there.

ParanoiaDragon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4619
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #186 on: July 05, 2013, 04:33:06 PM »
Mines 337.  It hasn't bricked, it seems to work ok, it just won't flippin' update! :(

xelement5x

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3926
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #187 on: July 08, 2013, 09:38:34 AM »
Check the firmware of your NGX (press the menu key at the game selection screen.) It is the 337 firmware that is getting bricked, if you have 330 you should be okay.

I updated mine, they didn't fix everything but my eyes do not want to bleed while playing in HDMI anymore. Just needs vsync and scanlines, really. Unforunately, my hacked SD card adapter doesn't work anymore. Good thing I have a spare X that I didn't update!

The case it comes in is an almost exact replica of the Neo Geo snaplock case. I haven't tried putting an actual neo cart in it, but it would probably fit fine. The plastics they use are different though, so it doesn't feel expensive like a real Neo case, but I'm fine with that. If I could somehow buy those cheaper cases for the price of a shockbox (around 8 bucks) I would get a bunch to replace some ratty cases I have.

This is interesting.  I haven't built an SD card adapter yet but just in case I will be holding out for awhile then.  I wonder if they changed the file structure of the cards now or something?
Gredler: spread her legs and push her down to make her more lively<br>***<br>majors: You used to be the great man, this icon we all looked up to and now your just a pico collecting 'tard...oh, how the mighty have fallen...<br>***<br>_joshuaTurbo: Sex, Lies, Rape and Arkhan. A TurboGrafx love story

tpivette

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #188 on: July 08, 2013, 01:00:23 PM »
Just got my Mega Pack today and tried the upgrade process... I followed the instructions carefully, however, the logo screen does not come on when inserting the rocket cable while holding the start button (handheld is switched off). However, I am getting the rapidly flashing blue light and after releasing the start button, the switching blue/red lights indicating the upgrade is downloading (according to the rocket cable anyway). I waited about 10 minutes and got no indication that the upgrade was finished (instructions say it takes 5 - 7 minutes, then the system will reboot) so I disconnected the cable. My system did not recognize the SD card after this, however, so I am repeating the process (still with no flashing logo or "upgrade in progress" display on the screen). I checked my system firmware and its 370.

So does this seem to be defective SD cards and/or rocket cables? Or are some handhelds just not compatible with the new product?
Original owner of a TG-16 since 1989!

CURRENTLY PLAYING:
Vita - Conception 2
PS3 - Tales of Graces f
Wii U - Monster Hunter 3 Ulltimate

tpivette

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #189 on: July 08, 2013, 01:36:35 PM »
UPDATE... I noticed there is a small yellow switch on the SD card. I pushed this switch down (mine was up before) and repeated the update process... and got the double logo flash followed by the "update in progress" screen! Crossing my fingers...

UPDATE COMPLETE! The firmware was successfully downloaded and the handheld now recognizes the new game SD card. Seems like the card switch position was what did the trick for me
« Last Edit: July 08, 2013, 01:46:12 PM by tpivette »
Original owner of a TG-16 since 1989!

CURRENTLY PLAYING:
Vita - Conception 2
PS3 - Tales of Graces f
Wii U - Monster Hunter 3 Ulltimate

SignOfZeta

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8497
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #190 on: July 08, 2013, 02:27:04 PM »
I don't think that switch is actually connected to anything so it looks like "keep trying" was your fix.

I know some people have known-bad SD cards and since the Rocket Cable is the cheapest piece of shit cable I own I wouldn't be surprised if that was sometimes the issue as well.


As for how to fix the stick, no, I'm not talking about rebuilding it with arcade parts. If your're going to do that you might as well just use a PS3 HRAP. The buttons aren't the problem anyway, its the stick. There is one piece in the stick that isn't a carbon copy of the original. I haven't modified mine, but it can't be that hard.

TheOldMan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 958
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #191 on: July 08, 2013, 03:03:36 PM »
Quote
I don't think that switch is actually connected to anything....

According to sandisk, the switch is a lock. Sort of like the old floppy write-protect tab.
Makes sense that the update fails if the card is locked. It probably can't unpack the files to a read-only card.

SignOfZeta

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8497
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #192 on: July 08, 2013, 06:12:47 PM »
Yeah, normally, but on the Ninja Masters card, IIRC, it isn't actually hooked to anything.

That might have been a dream I had...

ParanoiaDragon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4619
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #193 on: July 08, 2013, 06:43:27 PM »
UPDATE... I noticed there is a small yellow switch on the SD card. I pushed this switch down (mine was up before) and repeated the update process... and got the double logo flash followed by the "update in progress" screen! Crossing my fingers...

UPDATE COMPLETE! The firmware was successfully downloaded and the handheld now recognizes the new game SD card. Seems like the card switch position was what did the trick for me

Dag nabbit!  I was hoping this would work for me, but so far, nope. :(

Bah, I went ahead & sent Amazon a message about it, & will be getting a replacement that I hope actually works. :P
« Last Edit: July 09, 2013, 06:29:38 PM by ParanoiaDragon »

GohanX

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1140
Re: NEO GEO X - New SNK Games Console
« Reply #194 on: July 10, 2013, 02:32:47 PM »
Yeah, the stick isn't arcade quality, so people who are used to HRAP EX's and Madcatz TE's aren't liking them, but they are still pretty good "not quite arcade quality" parts. They are still fairly nice sticks, especially if you can get them cheap.

I also swapped the stick from one of my old beat up neo old style sticks. I used the stick assembly from the old stick with the new switches from the X. Feels like butter now.