Neo-Geo AES questions

[geise]

I went supergun (thanks ope!) cause I also wanted to buy pcb's as well as mvs.  Best of both.  Superguns can be tiny and a 1 slot mv1b or mv1fz are fairly tiny.   A mv1C is top loading like an AES and is also fairly small.

[glazball]

  To the OP - sadly, I can't add much here that hasn't been said already.  I myself bit the bullet last year and bought an AES.  Games for it are not easy to find and when you do find them, they aren't cheap.  MVS is the way to go if you hope to play most of the games, but I'm a stickler and want only official hardware for home use.  And I have to say, even though my AES collection is small, it's a joy to own the games I do in original home cart packaging.  Just holding one of those monster carts in your hand is very satisfying.  They smell really nice too, seriously!
  For those games that I'll never, ever be able to afford, I've bought Wii discs that have some of them.  Metal Slug Anthology on Wii has MS 1 through 6, costs about $15 on Amazon but would cost about $7500 (??) if you found and bought the home carts.  There's also a Samurai Shodown Anthology and a SNK Arcade Classics Vol. 1, which has 16 games.
  Good luck!

[Ji-L87]

Say, what do you guys in in the "know" think of the CD systems? Are they worth the price of admission, despite loading times, compared to AES/MVS?

[geise]

If you want cheap games the CD system is a good choice, but the load times do kill the neo-geo experience for me.  

[Frank_fjs]

I've played one, loading times kill it for me.

Granted the severity of loading times depends on the game (some games are actually fully playable) but in general it's rather sucky.

The CD consoles have become increasingly expensive too, I guess as more and more people jumped on the idea of cheaper Neo-Geo gaming demand for them went up, and with it prices.

Also, I don't think the entire library of games was released in the CD format, and I hate CD based consoles for reliability reasons.

Each to their own but it's not for me, and I've seen CD games sell for stupid prices too.

[SignOfZeta]

Say, what do you guys in in the "know" think of the CD systems? Are they worth the price of admission, despite loading times, compared to AES/MVS?

In 1996, I'd totally recommend the Neo CD. The load time thing is hugely overrated by people who have never spent real time with the system, IMHO.

Now though, screw it. MVS is king. It's the truest arcade experince because the shit was actually IN arcades. Even without a UniBIOS you have no censorship, access to every language, multiple slots, cheaper games...there just isnt any contest.

Something to consider when looking at the sometimes high price of CMVS or Supergun setups: the standard Neo Geo has video output that can only be described as "shit", maybe even worse than a Mk I Genesis. Terrible. Assuming you're going to upgrade that anyway, consider that a CMVS will already have something like s-video or component of a superior quality installed.

[Samurai Ghost]

I've been wanting to get a supergun set-up for ages but have never gotten around to it. It's there a supergun set-up you guys recommend? I can solder things together but I'm pretty clueless about nitty gritty electronics so it would have to be fairly fool-proof. I'd also like to have something that looks clean rather than an exposed board, so I'd probably build/buy a case for it as well. A pre-made housing would probably be the best but I could make something out of plexiglass or something if need be.

[SignOfZeta]

I don't see any way of using a Supergun without exposed PCBs. That's what a Supergun does...it plays PCBs. I guess stuff like CPS2 and Atomiswave is pretty console-like, but most boards earlier than the mid-90s are...a lot of green plastic and solder.

[GohanX]

The CD certainly has a place, but I wouldn't get any fighters newer than KOF 94. Shooters and other non fighting games are just fine on it. I have mine mostly for shooters like Last Resort that are too expensive in the other formats.

Also, I don't condone piracy, but the CD systems (other than the CDZ) have no copy protection. I may or may not have a binder with every Neo CD game ever in addition to me 10 or so CD games.

[ccovell]

I really like the CD system.  It's the best option for a newbie to the Neo-Geo world who doesn't like dealing with the exposed PCBs of an MVS setup.  And who doesn't mainly play fighting games.

Another cheap option is an MVS with multicart.  If you have an RGB monitor already, setup can be extremely easy on the wallet:  http://www.chrismcovell.com/diary.html#neo

[Ji-L87]

Allright, thanks for the input, people

Not on the fence of getting a Neo now but, maybe one day. Will probably avoid the fighters, or at least most of them. Not a fan.

[Samurai Ghost]

I don't see any way of using a Supergun without exposed PCBs. That's what a Supergun does...it plays PCBs. I guess stuff like CPS2 and Atomiswave is pretty console-like, but most boards earlier than the mid-90s are...a lot of green plastic and solder.

Ah yeah, I know the arcade boards will be exposed, but how about the actual supergun? I have a feeling I've seen them in nice cases.

[SignOfZeta]

I don't see any way of using a Supergun without exposed PCBs. That's what a Supergun does...it plays PCBs. I guess stuff like CPS2 and Atomiswave is pretty console-like, but most boards earlier than the mid-90s are...a lot of green plastic and solder.

Ah yeah, I know the arcade boards will be exposed, but how about the actual supergun? I have a feeling I've seen them in nice cases.

Some are nicer than others, but there is no reason for any of them  to have anything exposed. My favorite is the stuff from Sigma.

[Samurai Ghost]

I don't see any way of using a Supergun without exposed PCBs. That's what a Supergun does...it plays PCBs. I guess stuff like CPS2 and Atomiswave is pretty console-like, but most boards earlier than the mid-90s are...a lot of green plastic and solder.

Ah yeah, I know the arcade boards will be exposed, but how about the actual supergun? I have a feeling I've seen them in nice cases.

Some are nicer than others, but there is no reason for any of them  to have anything exposed. My favorite is the stuff from Sigma.

Ah yes, those are the ones I am looking for. Seems like they aren't being produced any more. I'll have to keep my eye out for one for sale.

[geise]

Hell yeah man a sigma is the way to really go.  Can be pricey but well worth it in the long run.  There's people out there though that put some really nice small ones together.