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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2012, 05:17:54 PM »
In the 90s, I played both equally. I loved the Genesis for the Madden, NHL and Streets of Rage games, still played the NES for Baseball Stars and Crystalis, and spent hours on Command & Conquer, Dune 2, SimCity 2000, Theme Hospital, and Warcraft 2 on the PC.

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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2012, 05:20:20 PM »
thus cementing the point that quality gamers had a mix of all that was available and did not suffer from fanboyism.

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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2012, 05:32:19 PM »
I should have been more clear that I was referring to pc gaming in the classic sense.

On the point that zeta is making... I think it boils down to a real degradation of the quality of gaming that is on offer nowadays.  Sure there are some new games that blow us away, but for every one of those titles there are dozens of crapware and shovelware titles to go with them.

Nowadays I seem to play a mix of classic pc and classic console games, but I know as  kid i definitely gravitated towards pc games.

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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2012, 05:38:55 PM »
I think it boils down to a real degradation of the quality of gaming that is on offer nowadays.

Yup.  Not that there wasn't a fair share of shovelware back in the day, but it's getting increasingly difficult for me to get excited about new game releases these days.

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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2012, 05:42:14 PM »
The only new game Im excited for right now is the new Xcom game by Firaxis.  Im only interested because its supposed to retain the feel of the original Xcom Ufo Defense.  Hopefully they wont disappoint!
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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2012, 06:06:56 PM »
I was primarily a console gamer as a kid, but my parents finally got me a PC around 95 or so, so I played both. They were each good for different reasons. PC games were larger in scope, and generally more complicated than a console would allow, but simpler console style games were generally lacking. Ports of console games may have been prettier and higher resolution, but they often had crippling bugs as a result of being a rushed port.

Around the time the Saturn stopped getting support in the US I pretty much went to PC gaming full time until the release of the Dreamcast. After a while, awesome PC exclusive titles that interested me were getting fewer, and I decided the constant video card upgrades were no longer worth it. I think the last PC game I bought retail was Max Payne. My current PC doesn't even have a real video card in it.

I do miss space flight sims. If EA ever got the old Origin team back together for another Wing Commander, you'd better believe a new computer would be on order built around the recommended specs of the new game.
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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2012, 06:10:11 PM »
yea, the current state of pc gaming is grimm. classic pc gaming is excellent, but has fewer and fewer fans. their is plenty of room for consoles and pc alike, but that goes back to my concept of being a true gamer. real gamers understand that quality games can be found everywhere, not just on thier system of choice. most people in these forums get that, their are a few that have no concept.

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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2012, 06:55:36 PM »


Lol tats :)  I'd lump C64 and Amigas in with PC gaming... they're personal computers are they not?

they were kinda called personal computers, but did things in a quite different way and style than the "PCs" we're talking about here. for me, amiga and c64 had much more common with consoles than with PCs, but in fact they were somewhere between :)
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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2012, 08:16:43 PM »
his sole focus is on anything that involves a conspiracy theory. if you told him you were M&M's he would tell you that it was designed by "the man" to hold down the minorities while the zionist, isreali butt kissers were holding hollywood hostage and making proganda films. i have no idea why he can't just take a breather and enjoy games, and consoles for what they are. not everything is a front against "the man"

In all seriousness, what the f*ck are you talking about? What conspiracy theory? Where did I mention "the man"? Its one thing for me to have a disagreement/flameout with someone on the internet because of a difference of opinion, but I honestly think you might just be too stupid to understand what I'm saying.

In my initial post, which is still there, go ahead and read it, basically said that I was into gaming on computers in the 80s when the stuff was full of character. I mention that as we entered the 3D era we lost sight of things like Full Throttle and Dungeon Master and Leisure Suit Larry and things got boring and brown and action oriented. Then I mentioned that as of today PC gaming is typified by WoW, fps, and really idiotic shit like The Sims or Farmville.

So where am I talking about conspiracies here? Who is "the man" in this explanation of three distinct eras of PC gaming? Either explain these statements or please shut the f*ck up. I can take any sort of criticism that is valid, but your shit makes no sense. If you think I'm a grumpy killjoy, fine, I can see that, but you are the one that keeps bringing up Israel in this thread, not me. I haven't mentioned it until just now. Are you f*cking retarded?

In the days of C64, Amiga, etc games had a life to them that you really couldn't find on consoles. Most people considered PC games to be more older gamers, those with a sense of humor and maybe looking for something a bit more intelligent that jumping on turtles 100,000 times. I don't see this sort of thing as being well represented in todays popular PC games, its almost completely extinct even, and I posted a sales chart to back up this notion.

There was nothing in the OP that explained a specific era of PC gaming. It just said:


Question:    Which do you prefer?
Console Gaming
PC Gaming
I like all games!
I dont like games   
I like Frungy

No mention of a specific era. I explained that I was into them when they were (in my opinion) cool, but not now.

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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2012, 08:52:49 PM »
Oh man, I used to be all about PC gaming. I did have a Mega Drive at the time and later a Dreamcast, but PC always seemed to come out superior in the end. In recent years, however, I've come to appreciate the (more or less) hassle-free world of console gaming. Also, I just like many of the games better.
Before I got back into console games and bought a PS2, I wished for all the cool console games to get ported to PC - I could feel I was missing out. Actually, buying that PS2 was probably one of my best gaming related purchases ever, GAME and other stores was getting rid of their PS2 games for cheap at the time as well - one hell of a gateway drug for sure! :lol:

So, I think console gaming wins. PC gaming is flexible and technically superior, but installing games can be a chore and revisiting gaming history on the PC usually presents some issues. Then there's also the fact that the game you just bought most likely will need to have it's settings tweaked with to run perfectly. Some of my friends, who like me and other kids back then, grew up on PC games and with who I've had smaller LAN-parties with when I was younger, have switched to Xboxes instead. Can't blame them really.

Also, in my case, becoming this huge anime/manga-nerd also made me more interested in consoles. Not sure the consoles get more games than PC over there, but they get the most interesting ones. PC remains a haven for visual novels and MMOs but most MMOs are uninteresting and I liked visual novels better when they were called "dating sims". :P
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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2012, 01:11:33 AM »
I don't know zeta, maybe you bring the best out in me. It's funny that i'm not the only person thats being critical of your comments but you always seem to single me out. Maybe that's why I give you so much grief at times. Difference between you and me is atleast i'm curtious enough to extend you some respect and understanding. You can't seem to be able to do that with me at all. Maybe another reason i find it hard to cut you slack. Your right, i just need to back off. Its not like you and i are ever gonna see eye to eye on anything, or that your ever gonna extend any respect to me at all.

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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2012, 02:02:50 AM »
PC gaming < Apple II gaming

I had an IBM PS1 or something growing up and I never touched it, because the Apple II C+ blew it away.


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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2012, 02:17:26 AM »
To be honest Zeta the threads title and the original post content basically implied that this discussion was to be classic oriented. It wasn't that hard to figure it out, but you just kinda went on this tangent about FPS games and killing arabs and crap, implying that's all COD games are about, when in fact they are not. The worst part is you don't really even know what is currently popular and being played on pc, you just assume its only some COD title about killing arabs and Farmville or World of Warcraft. I don't know anyone who plays f*cking Farmville or WOW, and the only person who I know that plays The Sims is my daughter.

You dismiss modern pc gaming right off the bat simply because in your opinion if its not a 8-16 bit throwback digital download game then its not "cool". Before you get all judgmental and assuming about what current pc gamers play, maybe you need to join some pc gaming/hardware sites/forums like Guru3d, HardOCP, or Tomshardware and actually READ about what others play. Maybe then you will have a leg to stand on in this kind of discussion.

I can see how you would pine for the days of old, like Sam and Max Hit the Road, etc, but to be honest Pc gaming has matured a lot since the days of the cut and dry 486 computer systems being sold at retail. The major focus now is not just point and klik role play and graphic adventures, but driving and complicated flight sims, mech combat, fps (like Tribes, COD, Bioshock, Crysis, Quake Wars, etc) and RTS games. If you'd have even bothered to look at the pics I posted you'd clearly see there is a vast mix of titles covering many genres, most of which are very popular titles for pc, or were upon their original release, and that's not even all the stuff I own, or even a solid representation of the huge variety of titles on the market.

Some pc nay sayers say pc gaming has been on a decline, but sales on both digital and physical media have been strong lately, and Pc currently enjoys better versions of most games released to console, along with many titles exclusive to pc only. If you don't like modern gaming in general, then yeah current pc gaming will have nothing to offer you, but that doesn't mean it actually is on the decline, it just doesn't suit you personally anymore is all.

Also, Herc was making a point that you tend to get focused on crap like anti-war and anti-government rants and crap and you get carried away and make stupid statements or get into arguments about it. In all fairness, you do do this, and you also constantly try to argue a point that you clearly must know is wrong, that most no one in their right mind agrees with, simply because it seems you don't know how to admit when you are wrong or whatever or simply because you are trying to imply "I'm smarter and better then everyone else here" or are trying to be different just for the sake of doing so.

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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2012, 02:25:28 AM »
Zeta, your examples do not explain your killing arabs theory. plenty of high quality games have come out that have nothing to do with your bizzare fight "the man" theories. this whole thread is about early pc games vs console games of the same period. if your past the 90's, and you are, then you have missed the point, or are making a statement irreleveant to the original thread. not every thread is this forum is based on a conspirecy theory.  play some games, have some fun, then make an intelligent statement based on said games. if you can't then your in the wrong thread. not everything has to do with zionist, anti isrealii, screw the man, corrupt establishment, who gives a f*ck mentality.

That too, he is ignoring the fact that you are referring to the 90s and classic gaming and that is what the thread is about. His sole focus seems to be on modern gaming, and even on that he is wrong anyway.

I too remember a PC (Maybe consoles too?) game that had a spot where you could kill Osama Bin Laden and Saddam.  Wasn't it something like "The War on Terror" or something....?

Maybe I'm crazy...

Regardless, I started gaming with a Tandy CoCo2, then only got consoles up till around 1997 when I got a used Windows 95 PC- (I want to say an Acer Aspire)  Had lots of fun, but in all honestly I probably missed most of the truly great titles of the time due to having an older computer.  In the mid 2000s I got sucked into crap like Maple Story and excellent games like PSO Blue Burst gaming online!  :)

Now I mostly run Linux PCs at home and play some free games (Most actually pretty rad) and older DOS games.  SCUMM is amazing.

If I had to chose I guess I liked Console games/gaming more, but do enjoy gaming on either!

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Re: Argue like its the 90s! PC Gaming vs Console Gaming
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2012, 03:07:11 AM »
josh, you might be thinking of postal 2. yes you could get bin laden, you could blow away gary coleman as well.