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Joe Redifer

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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2012, 09:52:23 AM »

 The uncompressed rom is 100megs.


But it IS compressed. Why is Star Ocean the only game we care about the uncompressed size? Many other games use compression. Oh and it's 96 MEGA POWER uncompressed. Playing through it as I am now, it sure doesn't seem like even 48 MEGA POWER. Maybe all of the Star Trek references (and the game could pass for a Star Trek game) take up all the ROMS.

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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #61 on: November 19, 2012, 12:16:08 AM »

 The uncompressed rom is 100megs.


But it IS compressed. Why is Star Ocean the only game we care about the uncompressed size? Many other games use compression. Oh and it's 96 MEGA POWER uncompressed. Playing through it as I am now, it sure doesn't seem like even 48 MEGA POWER. Maybe all of the Star Trek references (and the game could pass for a Star Trek game) take up all the ROMS.

Because like Tengai Makyou Zero, it uses add-on hardware compression and isn't like a regular cart game that uncompresses some graphics using only the console cpu. If you were to uncompress everything in a regular 16 meg cart game, chances are it would only be as much as 18 - 20 megs. That's not counting any space SNES samples save using adpcm samples over the pcm (or whatever) samples that are used in Genesis games. But there's no way that the SNES cpu is uncompressing cart games douhle the rom size. If it could, those two RPGs wouldn't require the additional hardware. Maybe Street Fighter Alpha 2 used add-on hardware partially to prevent piracy because of its popularity. But I don't think that entered into the decision to do hardware compression for those RPGs.

As for the content of Star Ocean, you'll have to play through it something like 100 different ways to see it all. Tengai Makyou Zero certainly has a lot of artwork in it for a cart game.
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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #62 on: November 19, 2012, 03:25:29 AM »
inb4they take out a 32,000$ loan to get this thing going and then rip everyone off to break even.
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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #63 on: November 19, 2012, 11:09:06 AM »
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But it IS compressed. Why is Star Ocean the only game we care about the uncompressed size?

 Because it's double the original size? I dunno. I just know that someone hacked the original rom to run the uncompressed data since the hardware on the cart wasn't emulated in like.. forEVER. So the game got a reputation for being the largest SNES cart/game.

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Many other games use compression.

 According to the internet, they apparently aren't as impressive as this game's compressed assets. The compression is impressive... or it's impressive compression ... or it's impressive in compression... or it's compressed impressiveness. Either way, I'm just stating some info on why people boast about the size of the game content. We can only imagine what PS size is uncompressed.

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Oh and it's 96 MEGA POWER uncompressed.

Semantics. Close enough.


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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2012, 01:48:10 AM »
Compressed or not, it's still not as good as Star Ocean.


I'd take one T-Bone steak over 10 compressed salisbury ones.
 
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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2012, 05:52:30 AM »
The Magical Game Factory, WM'S MAGICAL GAME FACTORY and Pier Solar are trademarks of WaterMelon Co. All content © WaterMelon Co. 2011-2012. Mega Drive, Sega Genesis, Mega-CD, Mega CD, Mega Drive 32x, 32x, Super 32x are trademarks of SEGA Corporation. WaterMelon Co. is not licensed, sponsored or endorsed by SEGA Corporation. Super Famicom, Famicom, Super Nintendo, Super NES, NES are trademarks of Nintendo Corporation. WaterMelon Co. is not licensed, sponsored or endorsed by Nintendo Corporation. Remember: In a world where size matters, true gamers choose the true MEG power!


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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2012, 08:50:32 AM »

I'd take one T-Bone steak over 10 compressed salisbury ones.
 

I'd take a zipped ribeye steak over WinRAR'd T-bone.

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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #67 on: November 22, 2012, 09:23:07 PM »
"123,013$"


God dammit

These idiots are going to make it.

Whoever pledged 7500$ deserves herpes.
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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #68 on: November 24, 2012, 06:29:23 PM »
Why? It's their money.

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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #69 on: November 25, 2012, 09:05:48 AM »
Why? It's their money.

Anyone who's that stupid shouldn't reproduce, hence, herpes.

Or maybe VD, or some shit. 

They probably pledged it themselves on alt accounts to drum up hype.

Shit like this will be the death of homebrew.
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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2012, 11:33:15 AM »
I'm rooting for them. Can't wait for the Dreamcast CE to arrive! (in at least a year from now..)

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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #71 on: November 25, 2012, 01:41:42 PM »
I'm rooting for them. Can't wait for the Dreamcast CE to arrive! (in at least a year from now..)

I'm not.


If it was a NEW game, maybe. 

but a dead horse being beaten, f*ck no!

like 8 days left, and 12k to go.   
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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2012, 05:53:06 PM »
I think i want the DLC version. Question is will it be cheaper when released for download?
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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #73 on: November 27, 2012, 02:35:49 AM »
I think i want the DLC version. Question is will it be cheaper when released for download?

No, probably not.   They'll claim that their download is of the highest quality and that the bits used are produced by a titanium fusion generator, so you'll be getting the best bits ever, hence 89.99$ for a digital download.

and then they will say it's not-crackable, and someone will crack it anyways and pass it around for free.
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Re: Pier Solar HD
« Reply #74 on: November 27, 2012, 07:44:45 AM »
The digital copy is at $15 for Xbox and PC/Linux/Mac. I don't see where it says $90.