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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2014, 05:36:00 PM »
the n64 was a big time console for me growing up. i remember getting my first n64 back in 98 when I was 7 years old and I loved the system since. I think the 64 is getting really popular by collectors as well as the snes and nes. I know a few people who are going for full sets, I think the n64 has a lot of great titles.

just sucks that it never had a street fighter game :(...or metroid now that I think about it

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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2014, 03:44:01 AM »
I can understand the nostalgia for 64 stuff; I am far from a fan of the company, but I did enjoy my time with the system during its last stand at retail, and my last stand at going regularly to thrift stores.  I found my jungle green system with DK64 in my favorite thrift store during my late-late college years for about $25 almost new in the box.  Funcoland (or Gamestop might have bought them by this time) was clearancing out the system so I loaded up on cheap carts.  A few months later I lucked into a grocery store formally 'game rental' section turned into a ' rentals for sale' section and I loaded up there, too.  At the end, N64 stuff could still randomly be found with the box if you were lucky enough, much better pickings than say SNES collecting.

I had fun with the usual games:  Goldeneye, Mario64, Quake II's port, etc.  I had some chance finds, like when I repaired a Mario Kart 64 cartridge using donor parts from a 64 basketball game (a flea market find).  Another time I walked into a game store that had a going out of business sale on 64 joysticks.  Another chance find of Star Soldier 64.  A lot of the games were all pretty fun at bargain prices, so I can see wanting it all back again.  The Harvest Moon game on the 64 was my first experience with the series, and it turned me into an opportunistic fan; picking up cheap titles as I find them on the PS2, Advance, DS, etc.

Did you know Mario 64 was something of a rip-off of Argonaut Games Croc title?  They originally approached Nintendo with an open world game with Yoshi and then Nintendo took the game demo and refined it, adding analog support, etc until Mario 64 was made.  Google it, Argonaut's president and Nintendo talk about it, a surprising read.
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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2014, 07:50:25 AM »
I'm skeptical of
Did you know Mario 64 was something of a rip-off of Argonaut Games Croc title?  They originally approached Nintendo with an open world game with Yoshi and then Nintendo took the game demo and refined it, adding analog support, etc until Mario 64 was made.  Google it, Argonaut's president and Nintendo talk about it, a surprising read.
I've heard this before, but I never heard of Nintendo admitting it openly. Link for that?

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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2014, 08:08:09 AM »
I was skeptical too and googled it.

Apparently, the Croc prototype "influenced" Mario 64, but to say it was a refinement of the Croc demo is inaccurate.  Here is the link I found:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-04-born-slippy-the-making-of-star-fox
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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2014, 08:33:07 AM »
I wouldn't say Mario 64 was the first 3D platformer; maybe the first good one, but I know there were basic platformers on computers years earlier.  Still, it sounds like Nintendo f*cked those guys over hard, and I'm not at all surprised.
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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2014, 09:09:14 AM »
I'm skeptical of
Did you know Mario 64 was something of a rip-off of Argonaut Games Croc title?  They originally approached Nintendo with an open world game with Yoshi and then Nintendo took the game demo and refined it, adding analog support, etc until Mario 64 was made.  Google it, Argonaut's president and Nintendo talk about it, a surprising read.
I've heard this before, but I never heard of Nintendo admitting it openly. Link for that?

That Eurogamer article comes as close as they'll ever get to an admission, IMHO:
"Miyamoto-san came up to me at a show afterwards and apologised for not doing the Yoshi game with us and thanked us for the idea to do a 3D platform game. He also said that we would make enough royalties from our existing deal to make up for it.?"

I'm surprised, but then, I am not surprised.  If you finish reading the Eurogamer article it goes on to say they gutted a lot of Argonaut by stealing their top programmers too.
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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2014, 10:43:03 AM »

I'm skeptical of
Did you know Mario 64 was something of a rip-off of Argonaut Games Croc title?  They originally approached Nintendo with an open world game with Yoshi and then Nintendo took the game demo and refined it, adding analog support, etc until Mario 64 was made.  Google it, Argonaut's president and Nintendo talk about it, a surprising read.
I've heard this before, but I never heard of Nintendo admitting it openly. Link for that?

That Eurogamer article comes as close as they'll ever get to an admission, IMHO:
"Miyamoto-san came up to me at a show afterwards and apologised for not doing the Yoshi game with us and thanked us for the idea to do a 3D platform game. He also said that we would make enough royalties from our existing deal to make up for it.?"

I'm surprised, but then, I am not surprised.  If you finish reading the Eurogamer article it goes on to say they gutted a lot of Argonaut by stealing their top programmers too.

It sounds like it was the talent (not the IP) that Nintendo was actually interested in. This is not surprising.
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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2014, 05:18:01 PM »
An admission of what, though?  Theft?
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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #53 on: September 20, 2014, 01:52:05 AM »
I've heard this before, but I never heard of Nintendo admitting it openly. Link for that?
That Eurogamer article comes as close as they'll ever get to an admission, IMHO:
"Miyamoto-san came up to me at a show afterwards and apologised for not doing the Yoshi game with us and thanked us for the idea to do a 3D platform game. He also said that we would make enough royalties from our existing deal to make up for it.?"
As I thought, this is Goddard's (maybe? The article is poorly written and doesn't quite delineate who's saying what clearly) unverified accusation. Neither Nintendo nor Miyamoto publicly admitted it.

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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2014, 07:01:03 PM »
I was skeptical too and googled it.

Apparently, the Croc prototype "influenced" Mario 64, but to say it was a refinement of the Croc demo is inaccurate.  Here is the link I found:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-04-born-slippy-the-making-of-star-fox


wow, would have never known that! I have croc on the Saturn but never played it. Might have to give it a try now.

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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2014, 08:34:46 PM »
Croc is an interesting one...  controls are a bit clunky compared to say Mario 64 but the Saturn version controls pretty well ( I think it can even use the 3D pad)  I actually bought Croc and Jet Moto as my first PS1 games back in the day when I jumped ship from N64 to PS1...
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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2014, 03:00:30 AM »
...back in the day when I jumped ship from N64 to PS1...

I remember Nintendo fan boys from back in the day just doing that.

It didn't help the "golden age of emulation" happened. I remember how pissed Nintendo was when people was able to play N64 games on their computers.

These days, N64 is not even worth the hard disk space.
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Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2014, 03:36:12 AM »
Although I tease N64 fans, I will want another one in a decade or so.

Wait, no I won't.
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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2014, 06:05:41 AM »
Whats interesting... I jumped ship but I ended up missing the N64 and getting another one a few years later.  To this day is one of my favorite consoles.
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Re: Are the Rising Prices of N64 Games Sustainable?
« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2014, 06:19:11 AM »

Whats interesting... I jumped ship but I ended up missing the N64 and getting another one a few years later.  To this day is one of my favorite consoles.


I have to explore the library some more. I really don't hate any console. 
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