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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2014, 06:16:51 AM »
Oh, and for Dreamcast use, it's expensive but the Hanzo vga box combined with the Kenzei sync combiner is AWESOME with the mini.

Yes, I was looking at the Hanzo. I may do that. Still coming up with the cash for the Mini. Soon. Soon.

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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2014, 11:30:03 AM »
And worst case scenario - you can always get S-video out from the Dreamcast if VGA doesn't work out for you.  There are a few games that will not work at all thru VGA, so you may want an S-video cable as a backup.
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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2014, 09:53:09 AM »

Your new Samsung plasma is BEGGING for an XRGB Mini!  I have a Samsung as well, a 50" plasma though it's now about 4 years old.  Still an impeccable picture.  (Very fine and wise choice on going plasma over LCD/LED also!)

So my TV does have a VGA input, and I use the (official) Dreamcast VGA box directly to the TV.  It's one of the very few consoles I don't run thru the Mini, so sadly I can't help you very much there - other than to say yes, you will need some kind of VGA -> Component converter.

Gamecube via component is only available via the expensive official cable.  I'm actively looking for one, and yea I'm not looking forward to paying for it.  There are no 3rd party or aftermarket Gamecube component cables, unfortunately.  For now I'm using S-video from the Gamecube.

D-terminal adaptor may not even be necessary since your tv probably has component inputs.  However, it's a good way to future-proof your Mini.  (Perhaps your next tv may not?).  If you buy the D-terminal adaptor from Solaris Japan along with the Framemeister, you'll be ready to run any console via composite, S-video, component and RGB for the rest of your life so long as you have a TV with an HDMI in (which will likely be a standard for a long time).

I shouldn't really call the plasma "new". It's a little over a year now since I purchased it after much research and ridiculous purchase cost, but it is one of the best purchases I have ever made. I have only minor complaints about the remote and maybe some of the SMART features. What does make me sick is that my cat likes to scratch the screen. I can't see the scratches unless the TV is off and I have a bright light up to the screen, but even typing this I feel a little sick about it. It is such a masterpiece being destroyed by that little ball of fuzz. Well..... The things you own end up owning you. I'm getting gel cap nails for the cat so he can't destroy things. So, I'll upscale my video from my old console and upgrade my cat with state of the art gel caps for his claws.

Be careful with the cat...my cat TommyBears (R.I.P.) scratched deep enough for 2-3 vertical lines to be visible when viewing from extreme angle (not the usual place a person would watch, but still...). I have a Panasonic 42" Plasma (2006) and the picture is fantastic. I recently acquired my brother's 2010 50" Samsung plasma and though it is nice, the speakers suck and the picture isn't as nice as the Panasonic.
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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2014, 05:04:26 PM »

Your new Samsung plasma is BEGGING for an XRGB Mini!  I have a Samsung as well, a 50" plasma though it's now about 4 years old.  Still an impeccable picture.  (Very fine and wise choice on going plasma over LCD/LED also!)

So my TV does have a VGA input, and I use the (official) Dreamcast VGA box directly to the TV.  It's one of the very few consoles I don't run thru the Mini, so sadly I can't help you very much there - other than to say yes, you will need some kind of VGA -> Component converter.

Gamecube via component is only available via the expensive official cable.  I'm actively looking for one, and yea I'm not looking forward to paying for it.  There are no 3rd party or aftermarket Gamecube component cables, unfortunately.  For now I'm using S-video from the Gamecube.

D-terminal adaptor may not even be necessary since your tv probably has component inputs.  However, it's a good way to future-proof your Mini.  (Perhaps your next tv may not?).  If you buy the D-terminal adaptor from Solaris Japan along with the Framemeister, you'll be ready to run any console via composite, S-video, component and RGB for the rest of your life so long as you have a TV with an HDMI in (which will likely be a standard for a long time).

I shouldn't really call the plasma "new". It's a little over a year now since I purchased it after much research and ridiculous purchase cost, but it is one of the best purchases I have ever made. I have only minor complaints about the remote and maybe some of the SMART features. What does make me sick is that my cat likes to scratch the screen. I can't see the scratches unless the TV is off and I have a bright light up to the screen, but even typing this I feel a little sick about it. It is such a masterpiece being destroyed by that little ball of fuzz. Well..... The things you own end up owning you. I'm getting gel cap nails for the cat so he can't destroy things. So, I'll upscale my video from my old console and upgrade my cat with state of the art gel caps for his claws.

Be careful with the cat...my cat TommyBears (R.I.P.) scratched deep enough for 2-3 vertical lines to be visible when viewing from extreme angle (not the usual place a person would watch, but still...). I have a Panasonic 42" Plasma (2006) and the picture is fantastic. I recently acquired my brother's 2010 50" Samsung plasma and though it is nice, the speakers suck and the picture isn't as nice as the Panasonic.

Panasonic was a definite contender when I was looking at which new plasma set was best. I am definitely happy with the decision I made. It is a amazing looking TV (especially when it didn't have cat scratches on it). My last plasma was a Panasonic. Really disliked that TV, but it was more of a budget model due to my budget at the time, so not really a fair comparison.

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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2014, 08:49:45 AM »
Though this is getting off-topic, I love the discussion.  When doing my own research, Panasonic Kuro plasmas were THE tv to have, as far as best picture quality.  Sounds like that's what you likely have, esteban (2006 model).  My Samsung is the 2009 model, purchased in early 2010 and the reviews on Cnet put it basically equal to the Panasonics at that time.  I was also happy to see later that Consumer Reports picked it as their best tv of 09.  Like I mentioned, the PQ is still perfect and I love it just as much as the day it arrived.

I haven't done as much research lately though.  I've heard that Samsung is getting out of plasmas, which is a damn shame if true.  Also, I've heard their new curved tv's are more of a gimmick - curved is good for a giant movie theater screen, but not so useful in a small living room.

Maybe soon they'll come out with an afforable 4K 3D 70" OLED.  Drool....

One other thing - I brought my Framemeister and Neo Geo (which has superb RGB output) over to my friend's who owns a 3D LED tv.  His tv, and probably any 3D tv, has a feature to "fake" a 3D picture from any 2D source.  Since the tv gets such a sharp, crisp picture from the Mini, it easily made it 3D and looked f*ckING AMAZING.  Nam-75 was incredible!  I don't own a 3D tv myself and haven't seen much about people running the Mini to one, but if you have one, check it out!
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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2014, 09:07:36 AM »
Kuros were Pioneer.  They did sell their patents to Panasonic when they stopped making plasmas, though, so some of their tech. has shown up in new(ish) Panasonic sets.
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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2014, 11:57:00 AM »
Thanks Necro, you're right.

And after doing some googling, it's true: Samsung will not be making any more plasmas after this year.  Panasonic earlier this year said they are doing the same, apparently due to difficulties making an affordable 4K model.  Damn.

http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-reportedly-ending-plasma-tv-production/
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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2014, 05:19:32 PM »
Thanks Necro, you're right.

And after doing some googling, it's true: Samsung will not be making any more plasmas after this year.  Panasonic earlier this year said they are doing the same, apparently due to difficulties making an affordable 4K model.  Damn.

http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-reportedly-ending-plasma-tv-production/


For some reason it satisfies me to know that I have one of the last flagship Samsung plasma models to be produced. Also, I have not tried the 3d feature with any old game systems yet. Now I'm curious. I'll have to try that once I get the mini.

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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2014, 01:25:26 PM »
Have any of you had burn in using the Mini?  I connected my Duo to it and used it on my PC but it left petty bad burn in,

I'm not too sure why since I've never had anything burn in.

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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2014, 06:35:38 AM »
All plasmas, by their nature, will get some degree of image retention if a still image is left on the screen for an extended period.  Burn-in is permanent, but newer plasmas are less prone to it than older plasmas.  Owning a plasma does require some bit of maintenance just to make sure burn-in doesn't occur (especially if you are using it as a PC monitor).

Since computers typically have much more static images, with icons/windows/borders etc usually staying in one place, plasma tv's are not ideal for computer use.  Plasmas, after all, were designed for dynamic motion (television, sports, games) as opposed to LCD/LED which started as computer monitors.

Most plasma tv's will have a burn-in utility, which you'll want to leave running if you do have some burn-in.  Using the Mini, you do get black curtains which on a plasma will cause image retention (or if abused, burn-in).  It has nothing to do with the Mini itself, simply the static image on the screen.  It's important to take breaks, whether using the computer, Mini, or whatever.  Watch something else every few hours or turn on the burn-in utility.
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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2014, 02:43:19 PM »
MINI is purchased! I'm totally excited. How sad is that? Minor increments in display technology for $400. yay...

It's like I'm one of those people in line for the highly innovative (IE: minor increments to meet current industry standards) iPhone 6.
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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2014, 05:46:09 PM »
It sounds like a minor increment, but wait til you see it in person.  Big grats on the purchase!
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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2014, 06:14:03 AM »
Off topic again, but coming back to TV discussion.... A good friend of mine just sent me this review of a 55" LG OLED.
http://www.cnet.com/products/lg-55ec9300/

Described as having a better picture than any plasma (or LCD) to date!  Hopefully in the next few years, when I'm ready to get a new tv, the OLEDs will have come down in price.  Though I am sad to see the death of plasma, OLED has got me excited!
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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2014, 06:36:47 AM »
It sounds like a minor increment, but wait til you see it in person.  Big grats on the purchase!

I certainly hope so. I am getting r*&ed in the @ss by the shipper and Canada customs. Probably going to cost almost $100 for the brokerage, duty, and shipping costs. I'll find out tomorrow when it arrives and a large sweaty man hands me a POS machine and says, "money for box, now!"

I love living in Canada. For some reason every company on the face of the planet has decided that everything should cost more here and that they all deserve a slice. So $100, means $125 after fees fees fees. Probably the same everywhere.....I'm just angry at myself for this addiction to gaming that I cannot control which causes me to believe that express shipping is a good thing. dumb.

I will check out the OLED when my gamer brain convinces my body that it needs to click "Add to Cart" in the very immediate future. Until then, I'm not going to help it along to that conclusion.

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Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2014, 01:56:57 PM »
It sounds like a minor increment, but wait til you see it in person.  Big grats on the purchase!

HOLY S%*&! I just started playing Bomberman 94 (PC Engine) with the Mini hooked up. Stunning! The colors and resolution are just spot on. It looks so good. Well worth the money.