Hi-Def NES - a 1080p HDMI mod kit!

[DarkKobold]

EDIT: f*ck lol even Nintega was more valuable then DarkKobold. at least he could be funny at times. Seriously Smoke, are you a DarkKobold alt account or something lol? There is no way you could type something like saying DarkKobold is one of the best members here and not have been cracking up a little inside as you did.

He never said I was one of the best members here. Nothing even remotely close. Holy shit you are dense as a rock.

Also, no one cares if you think I'm valuable. Least of all me. I think you are a keyboard warrior shut-in.

[Arkhan]

These are some crappy cellphone camera grabs of my Famicom + AV mod going into an XRGB3 to my 60" TV.





Now, take the XRGB3 out of the picture and use a cheap 35-40$ composite upscaler, and you're getting this kind of image, for less than half the price of the thing.  If you already had an XRGB or something for other purposes, you can just exclude it altogether and enjoy NES on bigTV9000 for <100$

I saw the quality of this thing in action in an AnalogueThingy.  It outputs and looks nice.  However, for the price, I think it's a waste.  It's NES.

Even the crispest, greatest NES image of all time is not that great.  It's NES.  There's not enough colors per tile to really benefit from this stuff.

Composite upscaled eliminates artifacts/smudgies, and is crisp + scanliney.    I could probably make the above images look better if I cared enough.   I didn't bother tweaking settings in the XRG3.

So you're only really going to benefit from this mod if you're some kind of NES fanboy, you have a boner for overpriced hardware (the AnalogueThing), or you never intend to do anything upscaley with any other machine.

oh, and there is no input lag in this case.  I'm sure someone will bring that up.  I sit and blow through Legend of Kage ad naseum.

You can't do that with input lag.  That's not a thing that people do.


So, what I am ultimately getting at here is, the mod is nice enough for what it is, but the price is batshit insane. 

[ProfessorProfessorson]

EDIT: f*ck lol even Nintega was more valuable then DarkKobold. at least he could be funny at times. Seriously Smoke, are you a DarkKobold alt account or something lol? There is no way you could type something like saying DarkKobold is one of the best members here and not have been cracking up a little inside as you did.

He never said I was one of the best members here. Nothing even remotely close. Holy shit you are dense as a rock.

Also, no one cares if you think I'm valuable. Least of all me. I think you are a keyboard warrior shut-in.

Actually it was rather hard to tell who he was talking about. He came in to aid you then swapped over to the other two when he said that. That guy was a mess. Just one scum bucket defending another in your case, and it gave me a chuckle. Stop having hurt feelings over it. You already know what people think of you here. By now you should be used to it. At least you have a fall back plan, that DoxPhile gig and all.

[Opethian]

for the record I did report his auctions

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Yeah he only stopped listing that crap because he didnt want to lose his ebay account. That is all there is to it.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Coming soon, Game-Tech.US spam @ http://DoxPhile.

[DarkKobold]

Actually it was rather hard to tell who he was talking about. He came in to aid you then swapped over to the other two when he said that. That guy was a mess. Just one scum bucket defending another in your case, and it gave me a chuckle. Stop having hurt feelings over it. You already know what people think of you here. By now you should be used to it. At least you have a fall back plan, that DoxPhile gig and all.

He didn't aid me, he called you a cunt troll. That is it.

The rest of your attack has been based on some crazy-ass nutjob narrative you created in your head, where we are the new A-Team, standing up against PCEFX.

 "Fall back plan?" From what? I didn't know I had a "master plan,"  which requires a "fallback plan."

And overall:

[Necromancer]

DK, smoke, and prof: take your personal attacks elsewhere.  If you don't have anything to say about the topic (preferably something new instead of a continual rehash of this thing being useless, overpriced, etc.), then this thread isn't for you.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Oh he came to your defense. At any rate kiddo, you sure do get all emotional rather easy. As for master plan, your giving yourself too much credit. Just stated the obvious. Your got a forum to fall back on where you are accepted. Im sure it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside . 

[ProfessorProfessorson]

DK, smoke, and prof: take your personal attacks elsewhere.  If you don't have anything to say about the topic (preferably something new instead of a continual rehash of this thing being useless, overpriced, etc.), then this thread isn't for you.

    Fair request is fair.    Edit: Gah, hate typing on samsung. Anyway Ark posted some good pics. If I get the time I will do the same with my iscan on my lcd. Had not run my fami on my lcd yet.

[PunkicCyborg]

Thank you Necro

[Arkhan]

Thank you Necro

You're welcome Potato.

[DarkKobold]

These are some crappy cellphone camera grabs of my Famicom + AV mod going into an XRGB3 to my 60" TV.

This image demonstrates the biggest problem with composite- the dot crawl. If you look at the letters at the bottom of the screen, you can see how much the white bleeds over into the black. Its not as noticable on the NES, as say, Genesis via composite. That said, it is still noticeable, and has the potential to be far crisper.

I hate dot crawl.

[Arkhan]

That is also a photograph taken with my phone held directly in front of the TV, slightly out of focus.

It's a pretty "meh" problem for NES.   As you even noted, it's not as noticeable as Genesis, or PCE, or any other machine for that matter.


For some reason, NES composite seems to be good enough.   I wasn't convinced of the quality vs. cost increase for RGB NES, and certainly not for HDMI NES.   

If you're sitting on my couch (The Goonies screenshot), you can see that you don't really see much of an issue.

[Gredler]

DK, smoke, and prof: take your personal attacks elsewhere.  If you don't have anything to say about the topic (preferably something new instead of a continual rehash of this thing being useless, overpriced, etc.), then this thread isn't for you.

Thanks necro.

This makes me curious what a kind of picture quality I could get. I use a CRT for these systems, but have HD tvs at my house and it'd be nice to occasionally play a oldie on the new set. I would like to sink into my good couch and play on my good tv for this weeks GoTW. Thanks for posting this thread, and thanks mod for re-railing it

For some reason, NES composite seems to be good enough.   I wasn't convinced of the quality vs. cost increase for RGB NES, and certainly not for HDMI NES.   

This is how I've felt, especially on my CRT. Stock video outputs at their highest quality has been fine for me. I really do often feel that the artifacts that accompany these interfaces are part of the charm of the picture. Actually, getting my art to show up on a crt through composite piped through the duo was a great moment for me. I really appreciate being able to see that, but the second I put it on my HDTV shit goes blurry, and pretty shitty - certainly not the same and hardly similar to the picture I get on my CRT.


I really would like to invest in an upscaler, but Turbokun's offer is likely what will be my go to.