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Joe Redifer

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Advice needed on MVS
« on: July 13, 2015, 07:12:10 PM »
I have an AES and I use it to show everyone how irresponsible I am with money. But I'm thinking of joining the poor people, the beggars and the homeless and getting an MVS to get more Neo Geo action. True, I won't be 1337 any more, but whatevs.

I don't want a consolized MVS. At least I think I don't. But I know there are tons of revisions out there. I hear that the 1F board is the only one that does stereo? Mono is for retards. Also I hear that for some idiotic dumbass reason the MVS is not truly Jamma compatible despite saying JAMMA right on the mobo. I have read that using JAMMA can ruin it's audio. Is this permanent damage? Why does it say JAMMA if JAMMA actually destroys it without an adapter?

I am relying on you guys for knowledge.

EDIT: Does anyone happen to have or willing to build a 4-pin stereo adapter that fits arcade PCBs that I can pay you for? I have one Konami game that's stereo. The rest of my arcade games thus far are stupid mono.
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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2015, 07:19:27 PM »
1 slot  is to Jamma standard, the rest put a 2nd audio Jamma connector on the "-" pin L, which would blow a speaker in a regular Jamma cab.

Also I got a 2 slot and it not only has stereo, but also a memory card port.


If you don't want to consolize how will you play it? Supergun or a cab?
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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2015, 07:26:04 PM »
I would say the best way to spend your money and get the most out of the games is to get a Supergun so you can play other arcade games too on the same set up. Most are wired to use neo sticks already so you would be good for that. Not sure how the neo works for stereo off the top of my head but most superguns have dual mono/stereo switches. If you look for a MV1c mobo you can easily change out your set up to an omega CMVS and use the same MVS board.
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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2015, 07:45:02 PM »
I have a Supergun. My next concern which I didn't even think of in the original post is the D button. JAMMA standard is for 3 buttons. Will the D button work if I hook a 1-slot up to it? And yes my Supergun is wired for Neo controllers. This one does not have a mono/stereo switch anywhere.

And all 1 slots are good to go with JAMMA, no adapter boards needed?

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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2015, 08:00:13 PM »
Here's the guts of my Supergun. All of the controller pins seem wired, but a few wires go to the thing on the top of this pic which is like a DB9. I guess it's some shit for 6-button sticks. I have no idea how all that works. I added +5v out the RGB output and -5v input which Superguns never have, I guess. This one does now.



I'd like to get that Razoola thing.... what is it called... some BIOS shit I can't recall that I'll instantly remember when.... UNIBIOS! Yes. What is Omega CMVS?

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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2015, 09:23:18 PM »
I heard you talk about getting an MVS and multicart... good idea.  Here's a comparison of most (all?) of them, and it's easy to see that the 138-in-1 has the best selection, even if it has that stupid JAMMA dongle.   http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/MVS_Multicart.

I have a nice, compact MV-1F with the Universe BIOS, which gives cheats & a sound test for most games.  My 1F doesn't have the ability to add a memory card reader/slot, which I regret a bit...  Maybe a 2-slot with memory card is a better idea.

Anyway, an info dump from my page: http://www.chrismcovell.com/diary.html#neo

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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2015, 12:38:47 AM »
A "D" button is possible on Jamma standard just needs to be wired properly on the DB15. Got a multimeter? Can be easily checked. It sounds like it has a kick harness DB9 adapter. Shoot me a PM I just learned about all this as I finished my Supergun project.

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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2015, 01:04:56 AM »
If you get an MVS mobo with controller ports, you can simply hook your AES controllers directly to them and bypass the supergun controller ports completely.
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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2015, 01:17:37 AM »
If you get an MVS mobo with controller ports, you can simply hook your AES controllers directly to them and bypass the supergun controller ports completely.

Yeah that would be perfect if you looked for a MV1FS
Here is a list of the different board revisions http://www.hardmvs.com/html/PCBcompare.htm
Notice some have headphone jacks and volume control. A board with socketed bios is easiest to swap in a unibios. I would stay away from multi slots as you would need an adapter since they are not jamma
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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2015, 01:54:37 AM »
Thanks for all of the info!  I too just received an MVS board and have been deciding how I want to set it up.  Many of these links have some great info.

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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2015, 02:40:25 AM »
UNIBIOS is a must

If you already have a supergun just wire in the D button on the harness to the controller port. if you want stereo off the MVS you can buy a mobo with a headphone jack or you can use the JST connector header for stereo. Not sure what you use for audio on your super gun im assuming you run it out the DIN with the video? is it currently mono only?

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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2015, 05:09:38 AM »
I have been using my MV-1 with the vogatek (got it here on these very forums!) super gun with no issues. I'm also running the unibios and got the memory card pcm hooked up as well. It's open faced currently, but at some point I plan to enclose the darn thing as nothing is more unattractive to people when they see exposed circuit boards. I believe I did the whole setup for under $200.

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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2015, 05:16:48 AM »
Yeah, most folks covered the main differneces between standard JAMMA and neo wiring.  Ideally I think you would wire for neo and then get a neo to JAMMA adapter or something if your concerned about audio - wiring.

Before I just got this nice 4-slot I was using an MV-1FZ with unibios. It was a solid board with a lot of those features except memory card support I think.  It just sits around now, if I get a supergun put together eventually it might get used again.

I also highly recommend a multicart unless you have won the lottery or something.

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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2015, 09:13:54 AM »
I'd just get rid of all of it because it's crap.

That's what I did.   Turned that MVS into more PCE games, and an MSX!
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Re: Advice needed on MVS
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2015, 09:29:25 AM »
I'd just get rid of all of it because it's crap.

That's what I did.   Turned that MVS into more PCE games, and an MSX!

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