Turok Rage Wars

[PolygonDaily]

I know there's a lot of animosity towards the Price hikes on games/consoles, etc.

I'd like to hear from you guys, what do you guys think about the situation with Turok Rage Wars for the N64. Crappy game, shitty by any standard. Originally came in a black cartridge.

Turns out there was an achievement in co-op play that could not be completed in the original release, Nintendo had customers ship the game back to them, and sent them a replacement cartridge.

This Cartridge is Grey, same game, except the bug was fixed and was inserted into a Gray cart instead of the original Black cart.

The Value of this Gray Cartridge sky-rocketed after the story was made public, how does this make you guys feel? do you think it's justifiable that this particular variant is so expensive?

why, or why not?

[Necromancer]

It's N64, so zero f*cks given from me either way.

[xelement5x]

The Nintendo community is to blame on that one, I saw the feeding frenzy on NintendoAge when that first happened, it was nuts and there was no compassion.  People were buying like dozens of copies for $12 a pop and reselling them to people who had missed this link for well over $100 each.

When you create a community of collectors and flippers first it's easy to see what happens.

[crazydean]

Doesn't make me feel anything. There are plenty of instances similar to this. Loot at Stadium Events. It's the same game as World Class Track Meet, but one is worth a couple bucks and the other is worth thousands. No one is shelling out big bucks to play these games. It's literally a decoration. If you can't think of anything better to spend hundreds of dollars on, then go for it.  :-"

[PolygonDaily]

It's N64, so zero f*cks given from me either way.

Are there any other consoles you like besides the pce/turbo? I think N64 had some decent titles...

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[MrBroadway]

What about xelement5x and Necromancer said. It wasn't even just NintendoAge that was gouging. But since it doesn't hold up today as a solid game, I shrugged.

[esteban]

It's N64, so zero f*cks given from me either way.

Are there any other consoles you like besides the pce/turbo? I think N64 had some decent titles...

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We rag on the N64 here, even I do occasionally, but of course there were some fun games. I even "like" some flawed games for it (Gemini Force or something?) ...but it is a console my younger brother owned and I was never obsessed with (I am obsessed with arcade/8-/16-bit eras).

You don't always see the rational/logical behavior of folks here. Most of us love all games, regardless of the platform.

But Jag and N64 are easy targets because there have established communities of fans for each console.

Notice that it is not any fun to bash game.com, because nobody cares about it.

Jag is superior to N64 in every way possible, by the way.

[MrBroadway]

Jag is inferior to N64 in every way possible, by the way.

Fixed that for you.

There is little redeeming value in the Jag. Any good game on it is found better elsewhere. The N64 has a solid collection of decent titles, though; it does 3D better than the Jaguar, it has a better controller than the Jaguar (and that's saying a lot considering the N64 controller), and the game library outstrips the Jaguar by a large margin. There is no comparion.

But we know how much you fetishize the console design, that toilet design, so go you.

[esteban]

Jag is inferior to N64 in every way possible, by the way.

Fixed that for you.

There is little redeeming value in the Jag. Any good game on it is found better elsewhere. The N64 has a solid collection of decent titles, though; it does 3D better than the Jaguar, it has a better controller than the Jaguar (and that's saying a lot considering the N64 controller), and the game library outstrips the Jaguar by a large margin. There is no comparion.

But we know how much you fetishize the console design, that toilet design, so go you.

Jaguar remains vastly superior to the pathetically inferior N64.

[Necromancer]

Jaguar remains vastly superior to the pathetically inferior N64.

That's like saying getting punched in the face is better than getting kicked in the balls: it's technically true but nobody really wants either.

[ClodBuster]

Is it the same for PAL rage wars?

[Black Tiger]

Jag is inferior to N64 in every way possible, by the way.

Fixed that for you.

There is little redeeming value in the Jag. Any good game on it is found better elsewhere. The N64 has a solid collection of decent titles, though; it does 3D better than the Jaguar, it has a better controller than the Jaguar (and that's saying a lot considering the N64 controller), and the game library outstrips the Jaguar by a large margin. There is no comparion.

But we know how much you fetishize the console design, that toilet design, so go you.

The Jaguar may not be superior in every way, but there are still many good things about it that it has over the Nintendo 64. I can't list them all, but a few off the top of my head include:

Better controller for 2D games.

Controllers don't wear out quickly.

More buttons and support for overlays.

Better library of 2D games.

"Real" or "traditional chip sound. Not just that sample shifting stuff which only gets worse with age.

Like every other 32-bit gen console, it has a CD-ROM.

Superior video quality, including RGB output. -the poor video quality of the N64 combined with mandatory filtering really makes it hard to make things out. Which is why I recently ordered one upgraded for RGB output.

System linking ability, allowing for multiplayer games of up to 128 players.

[Desh]

The only reason N64 controllers wear out compared to Jaguar controllers is because nobody played with the Jaguar controllers... ZING!

I actually purchased a 64 when they first came out over a Playstation because at the time, Wave Race, Mario and Star Wars blew me away.  Although Nintendo 64 is not one of my favorite console there are still a bunch of great games on the system.  I did end up buying a used Playstation later though because Gran Turismo 2, Resident Evil series and Metal Gear.

[MrBroadway]

My point wasn't that it was worthless on its own, but that in relation to everything else, it has no value. That better library of 2D games comprises either junk or inferior ports. I will give you that the controller is better for 2D games, but we're comparing turds and guano, as neither as ideal. Re: more buttons = better, I can't think of a single game on the N64 where I thought that it could use a keypad layout.

So you've come up with about 5 things the Jaguar can do better (and I can't even really give you RGB, as N64 3D looks a hundred times better than Jaguar 3D, which resembled blurry 32X graphics), but you're putting make-up on a pig at that point, while the N64 is at least an average dame.

[lukester]

Jaguar is crap. Sorry.

N64 isn't fantastic either, but it still has a couple handfuls of amazing games.

The Jaguar has a handful of decent games in comparison.

That said, Turok Rage Wars is just an average multiplayer game featuring bots. It's not a game to get worked up over.