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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2016, 09:48:07 AM »

Isn't 80% of the PS4 library just PS3 games with the word definitive slapped on it? 
I don't think that's true at all. 80% would be pretty damn hefty

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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2016, 01:03:33 PM »
I bought a 20th anniversary PS4 a year or so ago or whenever they released and it's just sat in the box. To me there hasn't really been anything that's come out to open it up for. New game prices have been pretty steep in Canada as well lately. Will probably just sell it and wait a couple years to pick up a regular PS4... Anyone else think it's been underwhelming though?

Where did you find this impossible to find system?  I tried to order one when it was announced and failed miserably.

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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2016, 01:10:09 PM »
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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2016, 01:33:32 PM »
Honestly, a PC has so many other functions that it doesn't really make any sense to buy either a PS4 or a Xbone.

Yeah if your gaming rig can compete with PS4 / XBone, I would agree that you don't need a current generation system yet unless you love bloodborne or halo/destiny. Games created for Current PC/PS4/Xbone are dramatically and significantly better than the ps3/360 and older PC's though.

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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2016, 07:32:59 PM »
Name 10 exclusive, no "online only" PS4 games. Name 10 that have been well received (by consumers).
Number of exclusive shouldn't matter it's what preference you prefer for playing modern video games.Me i'm satisfy with the PS4 and what exclusive it does get.

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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2016, 12:16:25 AM »
Name 10 exclusive, no "online only" PS4 games. Name 10 that have been well received (by consumers).
Number of exclusive shouldn't matter it's what preference you prefer for playing modern video games.Me i'm satisfy with the PS4 and what exclusive it does get.
Isn't Destiny also on the 360/PS3? Not that I have either system either, but if one did, that's still a strike against the current systems.

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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2016, 12:51:29 AM »
Name 10 exclusive, no "online only" PS4 games. Name 10 that have been well received (by consumers).
Number of exclusive shouldn't matter it's what preference you prefer for playing modern video games.Me i'm satisfy with the PS4 and what exclusive it does get.
Isn't Destiny also on the 360/PS3? Not that I have either system either, but if one did, that's still a strike against the current systems.
It is,EA really whored that game out  ](*,) Slowly but surely third parties are starting to drop the PS3&360 little by little.Such as how mortal kombat x was suppose to have a PS3&360 release,shortly there after a cancel.

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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2016, 01:42:27 AM »
I bought a 20th anniversary PS4 a year or so ago or whenever they released and it's just sat in the box. To me there hasn't really been anything that's come out to open it up for. New game prices have been pretty steep in Canada as well lately. Will probably just sell it and wait a couple years to pick up a regular PS4... Anyone else think it's been underwhelming though?

Where did you find this impossible to find system?  I tried to order one when it was announced and failed miserably.

I had Twitter set up to send me all of PS Canada's tweets via text for about a week. Think it was 10 or 10:30 on a Tuesday morning and I just happened to catch the beep for the drop in their online store lol

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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2016, 03:41:23 AM »
Name 10 exclusive, no "online only" PS4 games. Name 10 that have been well received (by consumers).
Number of exclusive shouldn't matter it's what preference you prefer for playing modern video games.Me i'm satisfy with the PS4 and what exclusive it does get.
Isn't Destiny also on the 360/PS3? Not that I have either system either, but if one did, that's still a strike against the current systems.
It is,EA really whored that game out  ](*,) Slowly but surely third parties are starting to drop the PS3&360 little by little.Such as how mortal kombat x was suppose to have a PS3&360 release,shortly there after a cancel.

As I said in  previous post, ps3/360 versions of most ps4/xbone games have to be ported. Initially the titles were made with ps3/360 in mind, but since 2014 most major titles are lead SKU on ps4/xbone making the trip to old systems much much tougher. The initial release of Destiny was on ps3/360, but the difference in graphical quality is night and day. Mortal Kombat X straight up failed to be ported due to the difficulty getting a acceptable working build on ps3/360.

Software not made for ps3/360 directly will likely suck. As developers get more liberal with next gen budgets (cpu gpu amd memory, not money) tools and techniques will be less and less possible to get working on older platforms simply because they can't keep up.


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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2016, 04:03:57 AM »
Honestly, a PC has so many other functions that it doesn't really make any sense to buy either a PS4 or a Xbone.

I suppose, as long as you don't care about price, power consumption, system size, or ready availability of physical media.

I've always considered exclusives to be an important selling point in a console, and in fact many in the industry have done so and continue to do so. It's not some bullshit metrics, it's simple: are there enough exclusives to justify actually purchasing the console?

Yes, but you're arguing that someone should buy an xbone or pc over a PS4 based on exclusives when neither has more.

The bullshit metric part comes into play when someone argues that a system should have x number of high rated exclusives to be worthwhile, and that only makes sense if you give a shit about those specific games, and it completely ignores that the vast majority of people's play time goes into cross platform games anyway.

Otherwise it's entirely redundant.

Only if you assume everyone in the world already owns either an xbone or comparably powerful pc, which obviously isn't reality.

Given console X and console Y where they share 99% of the games, the only real non-collectard response is to buy the console that has the better ports and scrap the other.

So exclusives matter.... but they don't matter........ unless you're a collectard?  Sounds good to me, man.
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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2016, 06:21:24 AM »
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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2016, 09:07:06 AM »
Time for the personal insults, eh?  I really must be getting under your skin.  :lol:

I bought my PC nearly five years ago at $500, and it still can play any current games.

It may play the games, but does it have processing power equal to a xbone or PS4, capable of playing at the same resolution, physics accuracy, AI, detail level, etc.?  I doubt it, seeing as an equivalent GPU (GTX 660Ti) would've been about $300 back then.  Most people claiming it's possible to build an equal PC for less money leave out the Bluray drive, controller, OS, and/or use a cheap dual core CPU, leaving you with a fast GPU and little else.

Considering it's my work and play and all-purpose computer, I'm actually saving so much space by not owning either a PS4 or an Xbone. The only real point you have is the loss of physical media. Whoop-dee-f*ckin-doo.

That's great that that's what works for YOU and none of the other points matter to YOU, but not everyone wants to sit at a desk, suck down 500 watts, have a full tower case sitting in their living room, etc.

It should go without saying that the exclusives have to be good. If they're not even good, they're even less worth bothering about. If console X has no good exclusives and console Y has some good exclusives, then the natural choice to make is console Y, since you have the option of cross-platform games on both consoles. I don't know how you can't comprehend that point.

I do get that, but do YOU understand your original comment?  Your point was that someone should choose a xbone or PC over a PS4, both of which have even fewer exclusives, a trend that will surely continue based on the libraries of the PS2/PS3 and xbox/360.
 
The point is which to get. If you have the choice of getting an Xbone or a PS4, with all other factors equal, get the one with more and better exclusives. How the f*ck do you buy consoles? Flip a coin? Eeny meeny miny moe?

No, you were saying the PS4 is somehow redundant due to lack of exclusives.  Do you not know the meaning of the word redundant?  A PS4 simply can't be redundant until after you've decided and purchased something else.

How did your brain so warp what I said? Did you flunk 4th grade comprehension? Maybe the "advanced math" is throwing you off?

Seriously, what part of this do you not understand?

Honestly, it's difficult to follow your meandering argument.  First you say that exclusives are a key point to consider when comparing systems, but then you go on to say that 99% of the games are cross platform anyway, so one should base their decision solely on which system gets the better ports of the cross platform titles.
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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2016, 09:25:53 AM »
I'd get a PS4 if it were backwards compatible with PS3 games.  In a heartbeat if it was compatible with PS2/PS1 (discs.)  Still kind stuck on the PS3 generation, though.  I noticed that there is more of a push for western style development in the current one, I always looked for the console exclusive Japanese developed titles on the Playstation.  Western stuff also almost always has a PC release, and the little bit I'm interested in I'll usually wait to grab it on Steam.  My GF wants a PS4 to play the latest Mortal Kombat game, though, and I have a buddy who swears by Bloodbourne.  I'm still working on Dark Souls II, though.

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Re: I want to buy a PS4: help me choose games
« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2016, 09:31:39 AM »
It should go without saying that the exclusives have to be good. If they're not even good, they're even less worth bothering about. If console X has no good exclusives and console Y has some good exclusives, then the natural choice to make is console Y, since you have the option of cross-platform games on both consoles. I don't know how you can't comprehend that point.

I do get that, but do YOU understand your original comment?  Your point was that someone should choose a xbone or PC over a PS4, both of which have even fewer exclusives, a trend that will surely continue based on the libraries of the PS2/PS3 and xbox/360.
Here you are dead wrong. Everything was hypothetical. I was defending the criteria of exclusives in deciding a console, which you called bullshit for but still haven't been able, nor can you be able, of pointing out why it's bullshit.

I don't give a f*ck what modern console someone picks. There haven't been but maybe 5 good games in the last 5 years, so I give zero f*cks whether you pick PC, Xbone, or PS4. I don't even know how many exclusives the latter two have.

However, I do know it's downright laughable you think the PC has less exclusives than either of those two consoles. Hilarious.
 
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No, you were saying the PS4 is somehow redundant due to lack of exclusives.  Do you not know the meaning of the word redundant?  A PS4 simply can't be redundant until after you've decided and purchased something else.
That's a hypothetical. You should also have learned those in 4th grade. I think you should go back and carefully reread the arguments here. Make sure you're not confusing me with some other argument you had last year.

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Honestly, it's difficult to follow your meandering argument.  First you say that exclusives are a key point to consider when comparing systems, but then you go on to say that 99% of the games are cross platform anyway, so one should base their decision solely on which system gets the better ports of the cross platform titles.
I figured it out! You don't know the definition of the word if, do you?