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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2016, 01:50:05 PM »
Popful Mail (at least in the US), Thunder Force IV, and Ranger-X are all pretty fun but ridiculously hard for different reasons. Popful Mail has no invincibility frames, Thunder Force IV requires a lot of memorization and good timing, and you have barely any health in Ranger-X.

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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2016, 09:01:17 PM »
Every Touhou game.
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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2016, 09:58:05 PM »
Ghouls'N'Ghost series that second run  :P

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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2016, 02:28:25 AM »
Fray.  Overall it's a very lovable game, but those jumping bits are frickin' tough and frustrating.
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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2016, 12:20:33 PM »
Lifeforce (NES)

Raiden (beating this game is a matter luck—there are several spots where I choke and spazz and crumble because I am an idiot).

Aero Blasters (same as Raiden...)


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Yo, Bro (I have an odd obsession to beat this game...I don't know if I ever will)

Athena (NES) ditto

Super Pitfall (NES) ditto

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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2016, 01:41:08 PM »
Image Fight is brutal for me, but I keep coming back.  Same can be said about Image Fight II.

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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2016, 01:59:04 PM »
Viewpoint on the Neo Geo, I love it but the later levels get crazy hard.

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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2016, 02:30:01 PM »
Yeah, even PS3 is CRT for me. Flat panels are for my girlfriend to watch Glee on.

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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2016, 03:59:00 PM »
Rayxanber II.  I play this game once every few months hoping to get pass level 4 but it hasn't happened.  One of my life long goals is to someday beat Rayxanber II. 

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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2016, 12:52:11 PM »
Popful Mail (at least in the US), Thunder Force IV, and Ranger-X are all pretty fun but ridiculously hard for different reasons. Popful Mail has no invincibility frames,

Victor Ireland didn't like you being able to beat his localized games within a 3-day rental period (which you could for the vast majority of games out there in the 8-16 bit era), so removing/lowering the invincibility blinking after being hit was his idea. One of his interviews revealed as much. That rascal!

To be honest, when I beat the game last November actually, I found the difficultly and playthrough time quite satisfying and it was under ~3 days technically. It really wasn't that bad in my experience... I can imagine how much easier and quicker the original would take if his changes are considered ridiculously hard.

Anyway, I loved the crazy writing/acting in this thing, there are Robin Leech, Terminator, Donald Trump, Reagan, etc. references and an anti-French joke even (totally out of place, but yeah, that was WD for ya)! And gotta give it up for Sven T. Uncommon's performance!

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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2016, 02:43:24 PM »
Actually, I'm pretty sure the invincibility time is the same. I've played both versions multiple times, and they certainly felt the same. It's just that in the Japanese game, it's really no big deal if you get hit three times in quick succession, while in the US version, that much is often enough to kill you.

That's the biggest difference between the two. In the Japanese version, it usually takes 10-20 hits to die, while in the US version, it's 3-5. I don't blame them for wanting to tweak the difficulty, because the original is honestly quite a breeze, but IMHO, they screwed the balance up. When you play the original, you get the sense that being able to survive a rapid succession of hits is a very intentional part of the game design. If Working Designs had to adjust things, they should have either also extended the invincibility time or reduced the hits-to-death to something more moderate, like 5-10.

Popful Mail US isn't really hard, but it's kind of cheap. You need to save and reload all the time, which is tedious, and the bosses throw the difficulty progression of the game all out-of-whack. I think the Wood Golem boss of the first world is harder than any of the final bosses, and so is that one two-faced guy who bounces around. In Popful Mail JP, those guys do far less damage, and even if it's easy, the progression feels very balanced and reasonable.

Great translation, though.
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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2016, 12:20:09 AM »
Rayxanber II. For now.

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Re: Games that kick your ass but you still love.
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2016, 08:53:06 AM »
Robotron 2084
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Esprade (or any Cave shooter, but this one especially)
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