HDMI Standard

[KnightWarrior]

I know Game Consoles like the PS4/Xbox One needs it

But all I see about people want to upscale there Older Consoles like the NES to HDMI..It doesn't look all to great on a Big HDTV, A small one prob

Get a CRT set to play it like it is ment for, RGB is good for me, if I have the Money & the TV ..This is just my rant about it

[crazydean]

The HDMI route on old consoles is mostly for people who don't want an exclusive game monitor. They have a tv in their living room and want to be able to watch Blu-ray and play NES simply because it is the easier option. There are some who actually prefer the picture of HD NES, but it's the same type of people who stretch a 4:3 image to fit a 16:9 screen.

You could also ask why anyone would want to buy from the Wii Virtual Console. I played Super Mario Bros as a demo on the Wii U and died twice on the first level, even though I can easily get to 8-4 on the NES and SNES. It's very poor emulation, but the masses have bought the shit out of it.

Look at how many people are excited about the the NES mini thing. Why not just buy a modded Wii and play everything? It's still emulation, and the NES style controllers will be available all the same.

[SignOfZeta]

I'm calling bullshit on "poor emulation" on WiiU. It being so poor you can't play it properly, that part particularly. That's just a bunch of crap.

[Zero_Gamer]

My experience with hdtvs is that the nes looked gorgeous in composite or rf.

Different story with 16bit consoles. The TG16, snes, and genny looked like ass.

The neo geo looked meh. Not horrible, but definitely not great.

A CRT is definitely the route to go

[crazydean]

I'm calling bullshit on "poor emulation" on WiiU. It being so poor you can't play it properly, that part particularly. That's just a bunch of crap.

There is a lot of input lag. I'm not saying that the game can't be played. I'm saying that if you are used to playing on an original console and CRT, getting used to different button timing is going to be frustrating. Many old NES games require very specific button timing and the WiiU emulation doesn't mirror that.

[Groover]

Well I have so far gone the route of an HD scaler (XRGB mini) in combination with getting an RGB signal out of my old consoles to play on My TV in the living room. I have a CRT in another room with a component video option. I will likely get a SCART to Component adaptor to play them on the CRT. I do want a PVM like 20".

I hate stretched out video. The games look to me very good clear and faithful with extremely low latency. Latency seems to be the most important spec in looking at new TVs for me.

[Zero_Gamer]

I didn't notice any input lag when I had my systems hooked up to my hdtv. I think this varies greatly By manufacturer. I have a LG.

[GaijinD]

There is a lot of input lag. I'm not saying that the game can't be played. I'm saying that if you are used to playing on an original console and CRT, getting used to different button timing is going to be frustrating. Many old NES games require very specific button timing and the WiiU emulation doesn't mirror that.

That's not necessarily the fault of the emulation, though. You're always going to get at least a little lag playing on an HDTV. It's inherent in the technology.

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[Medic_wheat]

I'm calling bullshit on "poor emulation" on WiiU. It being so poor you can't play it properly, that part particularly. That's just a bunch of crap.

[GohanX]

NES emulation on the Wii U is pretty poor, actually. Switch it over to Wii mode for better emulation, oddly. Or better yet, plug a regular Wii into a sdtv, that's a great way to play.

[Johnpv]

But all I see about people want to upscale there Older Consoles like the NES to HDMI..It doesn't look all to great on a Big HDTV, A small one prob

Well you're wrong on this one.  These older consoles can look fantastic on large TVs.  Plus the HDMI mods that are available for these different consoles (really there's just 2) upscale the image to 1080p with no lag, and just as crisp and sharp as RGB.  Hell the mods even include scanline options if that's your thing. 

Plus you're future proofing your console.  HDMI as a connector on TVs isn't going anywhere any time soon.  The more consoles that can get HDMI mods that can do things that the HiDef NES and ULTRAHDMI can do the better IMHO.

[KnightWarrior]

Well you're wrong on this one.  These older consoles can look fantastic on large TVs.  Plus the HDMI mods that are available for these different consoles (really there's just 2) upscale the image to 1080p with no lag, and just as crisp and sharp as RGB.  Hell the mods even include scanline options if that's your thing. 

Plus you're future proofing your console.  HDMI as a connector on TVs isn't going anywhere any time soon.  The more consoles that can get HDMI mods that can do things that the HiDef NES and ULTRAHDMI can do the better IMHO.

I'm not buying it at all, I would rather play it on a SD CRT with a RGB Modded NES, You will have Lag on a HDTV regardless

[SignOfZeta]

"Fantastic" is in the eye of the beholder. A lot of people only know the hyper vivid atomically bright giant sized TV so that's what's normal to them and therefore the NES looks normal running on that to them. The excuses about not having room or being able to find a real TV are just things they make up to justify their stance. Those who still have CRTs prefer period accuracy and a cohesive vibe. I want my Genesis to match my TV. Quality is only part of it. I have a mint 19" PVM, but I also have a shitty badge engineered RF only 19" TV with a million hours on it and I'd rather use that than any of my big panels.

It's a hard bridge for either of us to cross. I imagine when the CRTs are scarce we'll all come over to the dark side of HD. The supply of CRTs is pretty f*cking gigantic though so I probably won't live to see that. In 2016 people are still building guitar pedals with tubes from Nazi era Germany I think I'll be able to get a TV somewhere for the next 3-5 decades.

[KnightWarrior]

How about people like to play Lght Gun Games?

It's not possible on a Hi-Def NES