NES RGB Cable Question

[crazydean]

My wife just bought me an NES RGB PPU kit, and I plan to install it next weekend. However, it doesn't come with a cable, and the output is an 8p mini DIN connector.

 - There are two options for SCART cables on their website, but the cheaper one looks pretty odd.
 - I know some people have used the SNES/N64 output connector, which I already have a suitable SCART cable for. However, it doesn't look as clean in the back, and I don't think I will be able to cut a square hole as easily as a round one.
 - Retro_Console_Accessories on ebay sells them, but sold out today! Right now, this is probably my preferred choice.

Have you gone through this before? Are there other options?

[sirhcman]

genesis model 2 rgb cable is what i use for mine

[crazydean]

genesis model 2 rgb cable is what i use for mine

It looks similar, but the pins don't line up. It does fit the PC Engine controller, though.

[Groover]

My NES has the multi-out like the SNES. Maybe if your DIM is bigger than Genesis model 2 look at model one.

[crazydean]

My NES has the multi-out like the SNES. Maybe if your DIM is bigger than Genesis model 2 look at model one.

I assume you have the top loader. Mine is the front loader. It's not that it's too small, the pins simply aren't in the same place.

[Groover]

yeah Top Loader but more specific AV Famicom. It has a multi-out normally.

[GohanX]

The best option is probably to use the included connector and order the cable and DIN to scart adapter from Viletim. I don't use it on my NES, but I've got several consolized projects that the cable works with.

Using a Genesis RGB cable is a bad idea, a properly built one has resistors and capacitors which are needed for the Genesis but will not work well on anything else.

Alternatively, you could pick up a AV Famicom. The install is dead simple in that thing and it already has the multi out port, you just have to wire the RGB lines from the RGB kit to the correct connections on the underside of the motherboard. You can't even tell from the outside that it's modded.

[crazydean]

I didn't even think of the resistors in the Genesis cable. Thanks for pointing that out. Looks like I will just buy the weird SCART kit offered on the site. I would go for the AV Famicom but they are quite expensive now, around $100 on ebay, and it's not like one is going to pop up locally. I got my front loader about two years ago for $15 locally.

[mickcris]

i know this is a bit late, but retrofixes took over selling the 3d printed multi out connectors from Helder

http://store.retrofixes.com/products/nes-toploader-frontloader-snes-style-multi-a-v-socket-upgrade?variant=28188326791

i know you said you didn't want to use a multiout, but not sure if knew about this one.  it looks a lot better than removing a connector from an n64 or snes and using it.

[PunkicCyborg]

The multi out is definitely the way to go. The DIN plug isn't a very tight connection and it is a pain to attach. Get the multi out and cut a whole with a dremel then use a file to square it off. You can make a template if that helps

[Desh]

I don't have much to add other than I also like the multi-out connector (specifically the ones like mickcris posted).  I have done 2 for my friends this way on front loaders.  The problem is locating it so it doesn't look stupid.  The middle screw post in the back makes it a bit of a tight fit if you try and keep it close to the RF module.

My personal unit is used on my Trinitron so I have no need to upscale.  When I originally built it I also added a component amp but then also tested using straight s-video out (which the RGB board supports).  I actually found almost no difference in picture quality on the TV I use other than the component amp wasn't built for my specific application and the colors seemed a bit off.  I ended up just axing the component and use straight S-video to my CRT.

[crazydean]

I decided to get one off Retro_Console_Accessories with the mini DIN. I like the idea of the multi-out, but I haven't seen a picture of one that looked good enough to me. Also, wouldn't the multi-out have the audio which supposedly creates noise on the video? Or, do you still have to route the audio through the 3.5mm jack?

Also, where did you guys put the palette switch? I saw one where a guy put his underneath in the little rut on the bottom.

[Desh]

I decided to get one off Retro_Console_Accessories with the mini DIN. I like the idea of the multi-out, but I haven't seen a picture of one that looked good enough to me. Also, wouldn't the multi-out have the audio which supposedly creates noise on the video? Or, do you still have to route the audio through the 3.5mm jack?

Also, where did you guys put the palette switch? I saw one where a guy put his underneath in the little rut on the bottom.

Switch and hookup locations found in the photo below.  I gutted the RF box and use an externally regulated 5V power supply.

[crazydean]

Switch and hookup locations found in the photo below.  I gutted the RF box and use an externally regulated 5V power supply.

Ya, that's awesome. I just don't have the balls to go gutting anything. I'd be afraid of cutting something out that's important.

[crazydean]

Well, it's nearly complete. I only have to cut a hole for the palette switch. I'll have some pictures up when I finish later this week. The mod has been enjoyable to do, but it did take longer than i expected.

Desh, where did you put the audio out? Did you just leave it mono on the side or use the composite video on the side as a left side out?