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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2016, 03:00:50 PM »
HDR and 4k are unrelated.

The easiest way to explain it is HDR = more colors (higher range of colors), and 4k = higher resolution images.

There will be 1k/HD tvs that are HDR, and 4k TVs that are not HDR.

HDR is not platform specific, and all current platforms will soon support it.

Oh I know that gredler I was just saying it seems like the critics believe hdr is a much bigger leap forward in television technology than higher resolutions at this point.

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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2016, 03:06:04 PM »
Oh I know that gredler I was just saying it seems like the critics believe hdr is a much bigger leap forward in television technology than higher resolutions at this point.

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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2016, 03:48:45 PM »

The main question, will the mainstream embrace the 4k standard in the next few years. Or will it be something like DVD to Blu-Ray, a very slow transition.



well for now.




I'm going to play a wait a see approach with the scorpio. right now I'm more interested in portable gaming so the NX might be right up my street.

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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2016, 02:30:44 AM »
I actually just went through a decision making process on this subject.  Out of the current gen stuff (I haven't purchased one yet) I was really leaning towards PS4.  I even almost grabbed one when I found a wholesaler online selling them new for $280 shipped.  My only sadness was that I would miss out on Forza as it's probably the one Xbox exclusive I would miss.  Then I'm also thinking, geez should I just wait for the new versions to come out?  All while considering a new console, I had been considering a new computer for video editing etc.  Then it hit me.  F consoles!  I'm just going to buy a nice powerful computer that will handle games at least for the next few years.  I can use Xbox 360 controllers I already own and hook it up to my TV.  Plus I can upgrade down the line for pennies on the dollar compared to buying another console or updated one.  Pair this with the fact Microsoft wants to start simultaneously releasing games for XboxOne and Windows.  The decision became clear, I bought a computer.

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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2016, 02:48:51 AM »
Then it hit me.  F consoles!  I'm just going to buy a nice powerful computer that will handle games at least for the next few years. 

This is really the correct answer at this point in time. Just make sure you don't get a Windows Botnet Edition machine.

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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2016, 04:02:53 AM »
Then it hit me.  F consoles!  I'm just going to buy a nice powerful computer that will handle games at least for the next few years. 

This is really the correct answer at this point in time. Just make sure you don't get a Windows Botnet Edition machine.
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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2016, 01:55:18 PM »
f*ck, I hate this post. This obsession with "failures". WTF is a failure? LD? LD was *the* premium video format for 20 f*cking years. Is that not good enough? Sure the sales weren't amazing, but that's because it was a premium format. Most people don't buy premium anything. Now there are no premium formats and soon there won't be any formats at all. Therefore, none of these "failures" you hate so much. Just...iPhones and things that look exactly like iPhones. Paradise, right? No more risk.

As Necro says, many of these "failures" flopped for completely different reasons and without understanding the context it's a meaningless distinction.

I wonder how far into the future people will cite the 32X as some sort of illustrative lesson. It's already more than 20 years old. When I'm buying my holochamber 64 in 40 years will some wiki-smart guy say, "Dude, remember the 32X? This is just like this. It will fail".

I'm sure at least one guy who blew $700 on a 3DO died in a car crash or something the next week. He never lived long enough to see the thing flop out, it was the hottest shit on the planet for what ended up being the rest of his life. Is his enjoyment negated because of the 3DO's massive failure?

I don't even know what these new systems are, I just think the question is played out and pointless. What's fun is fun. This is a f*cking PC Engine forum after all. You'd think anyone who would bother with joining wouldn't ask such a question.

Also, I find your comedic portrayal of drug addition to be distasteful.

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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2016, 04:13:27 PM »
What's fun is fun.

This.  Which is why I still say the Wii U was the best (ie: most fun) console of the most recent generation.
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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2016, 05:13:47 AM »
What's fun is fun.

This.  Which is why I still say the Wii U was the best (ie: most fun) console of the most recent generation.
My family and I got a Wii U at launch and we've played it more than any console in a long time. My daughter in particular regularly goes back to play Super Mario 3D World.

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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2016, 10:11:57 AM »
What's fun is fun.

This.  Which is why I still say the Wii U was the best (ie: most fun) console of the most recent generation.

Unquestionably. Its a dumb design and a relative mega-flop, and even though I only have like 7 games I've played the hell out of most of them, co-op. Cleared multiple Mario titles multiple times with multiple people. MULTI! Its like the 90s up in here. I'm grateful for every year Nintendo manages to continue the real fight without selling out to The Man. It'll happen eventually, so savor every game they make.

"The Man" is the 38 year old overly entitled child who has so much buying power that all games converge on his demographic. GTA, Gears of War, Madden, that shit.

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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2016, 02:03:35 AM »
Zeta, it's been too long. :)
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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2016, 06:47:41 AM »
I pre-ordered PS Pro, as I am a 3D junky and it is rumored this will help the PS VR.  I also have a 4k tv, so it will be nice to finally see it in 4k.  I acknowledge I am a niche in that I am getting both PS VR and have 4k, but I am happy Sony is supporting me.

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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2016, 05:52:53 AM »
The lack of 4K player now is causing me to rethink my enthusiasm.  Hopefully someone with a nicely treated complete PS4 will sell it to me cheap now :P
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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2016, 06:06:59 AM »
I don't get why they're leaving out 4K BR movie playback in at least the Pro, not when the One S has it; it obviously isn't a pricey feature to include.  Physical sales are steadily losing ground to streaming, sure, but it's still a sizable percentage of revenue (~40%).
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Re: Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Pro are these future failures?
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2016, 07:32:02 AM »
I don't get why they're leaving out 4K BR movie playback in at least the Pro, not when the One S has it; it obviously isn't a pricey feature to include.  Physical sales are steadily losing ground to streaming, sure, but it's still a sizable percentage of revenue (~40%).

Yeah, someone said it'll cost like MS $15 to include the drive any they're still doing it, where with Sony since they own the tech it'd probably only cost the around $5 a unit to include the drive.  If anything it makes me think they'll sell another "upgrade" in another couple years again as well.
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