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rolins

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2006, 09:12:02 PM »
I can't imagine the Genny being outranked by the GC.  :?

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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2006, 10:46:20 PM »
Wow I didn't know the Neo Geo was 24-bit.  I guess that means the Genesis is 24-bit, too!

I love my 24-bit Genesis.  It rocks.  24-bits of SHEER POWER!  But wait... I also have a Sega CD and a 32X.  If we add up the "bits" like the author of this thread did for the Neo Geo processors, that makes my Genesis setup a 104 bit monster!

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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2006, 11:27:56 PM »
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so why just no PCE in your list? and why you're in this forum? (to mean no harm, just curious) :D


Well, for various reasons. I'd like to put the PCE in my list, but there aren't enough games that interest me on it. Maybe I'd include it in my list, because now that I think about it - I honestly can't come up with 10 consoles that I like more than the PCE.

Why I'm here? Well, that's for various reasons as well, hehe. First of all: I saw some Ys discussion here. Where there's Ys discussion, I will show up. I also like this place in general. Interesting topics, interesting members, etc. And of course - love of the PCE brought me here.

Also: I would never ever put the Neo Geo on this list! A system dedicated entirely to figthers and shooters? Please!

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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2006, 11:42:31 PM »
Where's X-box? :lol:
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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2006, 01:33:48 AM »
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Wow I didn't know the Neo Geo was 24-bit.  I guess that means the Genesis is 24-bit, too!

I love my 24-bit Genesis.  It rocks.  24-bits of SHEER POWER!  But wait... I also have a Sega CD and a 32X.  If we add up the "bits" like the author of this thread did for the Neo Geo processors, that makes my Genesis setup a 104 bit monster!


LOL actually the M68000 used in both the Neogeo and Genesis were 32-bit cpus with 16-bit front side bus.  This is a commonplace cpu found in alot of arcade hardware in the 80ies and 90ies. The right 68000s can be overclocked easily with the proper knowhow. You can jump a Genesis model 1 deck from 7 mhz to 13 mhz and get rid of flicker and slow down. If your brave you can push well past 18mhz.

The M68000 was a fantastic compromise. When the M68000 was introduced, 16-bit front side buses were really the most practical size for usage.  The 68000 was designed with 32-bit address spaces and registers .

Even though the 68000 had 24-bit addressing system supporting up to 16 MB of memory and 16-bit ALUs, addresses were always stored as 32-bit quantities, i.e. it had a flat 32-bit address space. This meant that the 68000 is a 32-bit microprocessor.
The Zilog Z80 used in both systems (Neo Geo and Genesis)is for audio co-processing.

The 24-bit marketing tout by SNK was stupid at best,and damaging at worst,because it makes them sound like they didnt even know their own hardware capabilities to extreme gamers in the know how of cpus. There wasnt a 24-bit anything except the 24-bit addressing system. Sega could have just as easily made the same bloated claims,but had the hindsite not to,instead playing the megahertz game with Nintendo later on during the "Blast Processing" phase of Sega's marketing battle. Super Nintendos Ricoh produced 5A22 ran at a measly 3 mhz.

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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2006, 01:36:39 AM »
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Quote from: "Tatsujin"
so why just no PCE in your list? and why you're in this forum? (to mean no harm, just curious) :D




Also: I would never ever put the Neo Geo on this list! A system dedicated entirely to figthers and shooters? Please!


Also: I would never ever put the PcEngine on this list! A system dedicated entirely to shooters,old arcade ports and RPG's? Please! :wink:

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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2006, 02:00:26 AM »
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Also: I would never ever put the PcEngine on this list! A system dedicated entirely to shooters,old arcade ports and RPG's? Please! :wink:


I disagree. There are plenty of various genres on the PC Engine. This is not the case with the Neo Geo.

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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2006, 03:26:01 AM »
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Quote from: "Michael Helgeson"
Also: I would never ever put the PcEngine on this list! A system dedicated entirely to shooters,old arcade ports and RPG's? Please! :wink:


I disagree. There are plenty of various genres on the PC Engine. This is not the case with the Neo Geo.


I was joking.... But I would rank the Neo in any top 10,because what it did it did the best of about any system 2-d wise. Almost all the titles for the Neo are B-A+ titles with a very tiny few exceptions.

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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2006, 11:08:45 AM »
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Where there's Ys discussion, I will show up.

:D

Neo Geo would probably be on my top 10 list because it has fantastic games. That's one machine loaded with action, so if you're more console-ish games like RPGs and standard platformers, I can totally understand not liking the Neo Geo.

True it had tons of fighters, but like Mike said, it did the best with them. And to be honest with you, most of my favorite Neo Geo games aren't even fighters :D , such as Magician Lord, Metal Slug series, WINDJAMMERS, League Bowling, Top Players Golf, Sengokus, etc... I think the Neo Geo seems to be overlooked sometimes because people think it's a fighters only system, but it's got quite a few other types of games out there as well and I highly recommend those :) .
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2006, 01:40:33 PM »
If I ever win the lottery, I'll pick up a Neo Geo, just because of some of the puzzle games it has. Puzzle de pon and magical drop spring immediately to mind  :)
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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2006, 03:38:55 PM »
You could always get a Neo Geo MVS set up or a Neo Geo CD if you want much cheaper games.
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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2006, 06:20:31 PM »
Neo Turf Masters DESTROYS Top Players Golf.  Top Players Golf is teh suk in comparez lol omg wtf.  But I own them both because I am teh awsum.

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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2006, 07:03:21 PM »
I disagree personally. I just find Top Players Golf to be a more fun and relaxed game. Oh and to top things off, it has better characters ;) .
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2006, 09:00:46 PM »
My rough top 10 by favoriteness-

1: PC Engine/Turbo
2: Sega Master System/MarkIII
3: Intellivision
4: Sega Saturn
5: Sega Dreamcast
6: NES/Famicom
7: Megadrive/Genesis
8: SNES/Super Famicom
9: Gameboy Advance


My rough top 10 "desert island" systems, or games I'd want to play most-

1: PC Engine/Turbo
2: Sega Master System/MarkIII
3: NES/Famicom
4: SNES/Super Famicom
5: Megadrive/Genesis
6: Sega Saturn
7: Sega Dreamcast
8: Gameboy Advance
9: Intellivision

I can't narrow it down very well after number 9.
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2006, 11:45:47 PM »
Hey man at least Sega Master System ranks high up there on your list.  I agree that there is definitely something about that system that is pure awesomeness on a stick.  Of couse that may be because it was my first console (I bought it myself when I was 14 and personally chose it over the NES due to Sega's arcade games).