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« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2006, 12:09:19 AM »
I am glad to see Intellivision was on Justin's top three.
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« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2006, 04:52:31 AM »
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Hey man at least Sega Master System ranks high up there on your list.  I agree that there is definitely something about that system that is pure awesomeness on a stick.  Of couse that may be because it was my first console (I bought it myself when I was 14 and personally chose it over the NES due to Sega's arcade games).


I think that the SMS was the most ahead of it's time of any console. More so than the PC Engine and Neo Geo. Especially the MarkIII hardware-wise(FM sound, modem, 3D glasses, etc...) and if you look at all the the games worldwide(in regions that Nintendo wasn't able to illegally stranglehold the market).

But what I don't get, is how so many real "gamerz" dismiss the SMS altogether because it "only had a few decent games" within North America. I haven't really begun to track down all the amazing Euro and Brazillian exclusive titles yet, but there's still enough great games to make it my favorite console next to the PC Engine(sort of tied'ish, but down half a notch).

The only reason they even discontinued it in Europe was to give the Sega Saturn a better chance when it launched.

But it doesn't matter how good it is technically, it's the games that I love.
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« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2006, 06:42:14 AM »
Part of the reason I like the SMS so much is the ratio of good games to crap. Sure, it has a small library compared to the NES, but I think it has just as many good games.

On the other hand, you are insane for putting the INTV on your list, much less at #3. My eldest brother and some of my friends had it, and I was unimpressed. The plethora of sports games (which almost always bore me) and the bizzare controllers turned me off.
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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2006, 07:26:58 AM »
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Part of the reason I like the SMS so much is the ratio of good games to crap. Sure, it has a small library compared to the NES, but I think it has just as many good games.

On the other hand, you are insane for putting the INTV on your list, much less at #3. My eldest brother and some of my friends had it, and I was unimpressed. The plethora of sports games (which almost always bore me) and the bizzare controllers turned me off.


The Intv was my first console, but there are lots of great games for it.

The D&D games kick ass, particularly Treasure Of Tarmin, which has animated 3D dungeons like Phantasy Star. But unlike PS, you can later get a special book that lets you see through walls and you can spot all the enemies and items as you walk down the hallways.

There are some special games that came out later on, that I only heard about because of the internet, like Commando, but I haven't gotten around to picking them up.

Although I don't play sports games, the Intv had some of the best ever and I still love MLB, which has yet to be topped(seriously).
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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2006, 08:26:04 AM »
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Part of the reason I like the SMS so much is the ratio of good games to crap. Sure, it has a small library compared to the NES, but I think it has just as many good games.

On the other hand, you are insane for putting the INTV on your list, much less at #3. My eldest brother and some of my friends had it, and I was unimpressed. The plethora of sports games (which almost always bore me) and the bizzare controllers turned me off.
edit: I was refering to the Intelivision btw. I forgot to say this.

Im kinda half and half with you on this. But that system did have  afew really good titles,and totally blew away the 2600 when standing toe tio toe with it. Personally Id rather just have seen the Colecovision survive the game crash,it was the best of the 3.

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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2006, 09:27:20 AM »
I really like the Sega Master System. My brother used to rent it back when it was new, and I'm still surprised that was actually possible. We lived in a really small town (practically on the country) and the store renting it had absolutely nothing to do with video games or anything (it was a convenience store).

I really loved the system back then and some of my favorite games are on that system (I first played Ys on it, for example). However, I never play it nowadays since there aren't that many games that interest me for it, and I've already played my favorite games way too many times by now.  :)

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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2006, 10:07:10 AM »
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I really like the Sega Master System. My brother used to rent it back when it was new, and I'm still surprised that was actually possible. We lived in a really small town (practically on the country) and the store renting it had absolutely nothing to do with video games or anything (it was a convenience store).
Yeah, back in the early- to mid- 80's in the northeast U.S., there seemed to be a lot of convenience stores that tried to do *everything*. We had local stores and supermarkets renting VHS videos, VCR's, video cameras, etc. Imagine going to the store to pick up some bread, cheese and a video camera.

As for the SMS: the only thing I never liked about the console was the incredibly lame direction pad on the controller. Otherwise, SMS is a gem. I would not consider SMS to be "cutting edge" however, except for the 3D glasses. The Atari VCS / 2600 had a modem waaaaayyyyy back in the day.
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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2006, 01:55:00 PM »
I totally agree with Black_Tiger about sports games on the Intellivision, they rock! My favorite sport games are for the Atari 2600 and Intellivision because they are so simple to play and are highly addictive. Though to be honest, I've spent more time with Atari sports games than Intellivision...
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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2006, 02:02:16 PM »
The SMS game called "Line of Fire" which, of course, was never released in the US has a hidden 3D mode built in.  If you have yourself some 3D glasses, plug 'em in and hold down buttons 1 and 2 as you boot up the system and voila, the game is now in 3D.  Awesome!

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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2006, 02:46:10 PM »
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I totally agree with Black_Tiger about sports games on the Intellivision, they rock! My favorite sport games are for the Atari 2600 and Intellivision because they are so simple to play and are highly addictive. Though to be honest, I've spent more time with Atari sports games than Intellivision...

Thats kinda sad considering thats what they used to market the Intelivision. Sports games. They used real sports anouncers,athleats,whomever they could in their commercials for the sports titles to totally downplay the VCS and its games.

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« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2006, 02:48:56 PM »
To be honest again, I haven't played as many Intellivision sports games as I have for Atari. When I got a 2600 when I was 11 or 12, I was hooked on the thing and played a lot of sports games for it too. My favorite was Tennis with the paddles.
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« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2006, 02:56:20 PM »
I totally hate and despise sports games on systems other then a very select few. As for sports on the 2600...They should have all been called Stick Man games.Well,except for boxing,that could been called Black dots with arms fight. I grew up with alot of hate on the 2600 anyway,except for a few titles,like Kangaroo and Astroids.

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« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2006, 08:25:03 PM »
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I really like the Sega Master System. My brother used to rent it back when it was new, and I'm still surprised that was actually possible. We lived in a really small town (practically on the country) and the store renting it had absolutely nothing to do with video games or anything (it was a convenience store).


I don't think it was just the northeast. Here in Iowa, one of the bigger (locally, anyway) Convenience stores is Casey's. They do the regular convenience store stuff, but they also rented videos, and games, and made pizza. the movies and games were the lowest common denominator type stuff (NES and VHS, of course); they got out of that business. But they still do pizza, which is acceptable. (better than pizza hut, IMHO; their crust is too greasy.)

But, back to the SMS: There was one video store in Glenwood, IA called Captain Video. They rented videos (VHS _and_ Beta up until 1989 when we moved away) and Videogames. They carried NES games, of course (legal battle? what legal battle?) And SMS games as well. The first time I played an SMS was in that store; and it would be the last time I would touch one for nearly a decade.

Once we moved, the nearest videostore was an odd mom-n-pop with a crappy selection; of games and videos at least. They also sold Higher-end TVs and Satellite equipment. We stopped going because they's always try to sell you their video equipment. (They might have had laserdiscs, but I may be misremembering.) cant remember the name, tho.

Then, there was the 'video village'. this was in the same mini-mall as the grocery store. (but not inside it, so it didn't suck like those always do.) we had a good exuse to rent games every week. I'm pretty sure this is the first time I saw Genesis games. Once the SNES came out, however, the SNES slowly overtook the Genesis selection. Which suited me fine, having a SNES, but I secretly coveted the Genny.

Eventually, a Blockbuster opened up the hill; this was about the time my brother got a Playstation, and 'buster had a better 32 bit selection; so we stopped going to the village.

The fate of these stores:

Casey's is still around, and expanding (there are now 2 within 5 minutes drive of my house; 10 years ago there were none) minus the mini videostore. but they have taken to selling little figurines.

Captain video is weird: Last I saw (a year ago at best) it was oddly combined with a radio shack. All traces of Beta, NES and SMS were gone. (i asked the clerk if they had anything in the back room they couldn't get rid of. no dice.)

Video village is just gone. Went out of business a couple years after 'buster came by; the building has since been demolished; a new grocery store (same company) was built over it.

Last but not least, there is the one whose name I've forgotten.  Oddly enough, this is the only place I 'scored'; took about 10 NES games from their back room off their hands. Still had boxes, even. The 'property of' stickers were a pest to remove, tho.

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« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2006, 09:24:52 PM »
Hey there is a Video Village in the town right next to me :D ! Probably just a coincidence though. They still rent SNES games and I've asked if I could buy them a couple times and they say no. Crazy!
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« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2006, 01:01:36 AM »
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I totally hate and despise sports games on systems other then a very select few. As for sports on the 2600...They should have all been called Stick Man games.Well,except for boxing,that could been called Black dots with arms fight. I grew up with alot of hate on the 2600 anyway,except for a few titles,like Kangaroo and Astroids.


I agree completely. My first console was the Atari 2600 and I liked it (well, sort of liked it) back then. It was kind of fun to play with it now and then (like once a month or so).

However, nowadays I would never torture myself by playing that thing. I can not understand how people can enjoy playing these things when there are far better games out there. I realize some people will say the same about NES and stuff, but those games actually had GAMEPLAY.

These old 70's games are  too primitive, and they don't last. At least not to me. I need to know why/how people can enjoy these games. Is it entirely based on nostalgia?