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[Michael Helgeson]

I've actually seen a few silent films like Nosferatu & Metropolis, I just didn't like them enough to want to see more (Metropolis was cool looking, but I kept thinking how much better it would have been if the people could f'n talk, haha), I appreciate what they did for the medium but man they are so damned boring.  Dialogue is my favorite part of a movie, if I can't hear the people talking then I just can't get into it at all.

Anyway my point is that I see what you're saying Steve, I was just assuming that since old shit like Pac Man is lame in my opinion that it must be nostalgia that lets other people enjoy it.  Good points.  It's also interesting how age doesn't play a huge part, even though most kids won't play old stuff we have people like Keranu's little brother who love it.

Long ago I had took a copy of Metropolis and rerecorded it with certain NIN music tracks. I totally agree,if th emovie had audio it would have been better off,but by the time audio was commonplace Fritz Lang was running from Hitler. If the movie was done in audio,it would have still been way ahead of its time no matter what.

[Michael Helgeson]

Hey,I love my fair share of simple too,Donkey Kong,Pac-Man,Galaga,Joust. But I swear to god the 2600 did none of these justice,not even Defender,and tended to make these games seem worse then what they originally were in the process.... Some people only have the benefit of playing these games on Mame otherwise,or not at all because they dont mess with emulation,I played them in the arcade. ALL the other systems had far better ports. The 2600 was a dead whores dumping ground for bad programming for a quick buck.

I hate when people say these games sucked when the only versions they played were 2600 versions.

I'm sure gamers back then thought that the Atari versions of those arcade games were pretty weak, but were just happy that they had a chance to play it at home since home consoles were fairly new and becomming popular by that time. I actually love some of the arcade ports for the 2600, like Pac-Man which everyone usually dumps. But anyway, Atari offered it's own titles of games as well that blew gamers away, such as Combat, Pitfall (pretty much anything by Activision), River Raid, Kaboom, Frogs and Flies, etc...

Indeed. Michael, you'll have to concede that the very notion of "arcade perfect" ports available for home consoles as a criterion for judging Atari, Colecovision, etc. is pretty darn silly! Plus, Atari's Pac Man was one of the biggest crimes ... but it was rushed to market for money, not because the Atari 2600 couldn't handle it (gee, it seems times haven't changed that much as far as publishers are concerned). There is actually a great backstory behind this! But I digress....

Yea,the programmer blackmailed the company to give him more cash before hed finish the project,and he was limited as to how much memory to use,ect...
These things didnt affect Ms.Pac-Man however,and that port sucked too,flicker man or not. Ehh the Coleco did have very near perfect arcade ports,esp of Donkey Kong and Jungle Hunt. Zaxxon was pretty close for the time as were about all the other ports. No,not 100 percent perfect,but a close 90-95 percent most times.