Wii recommendations

[nodtveidt]

Seriously, though, I recommend you guys get a Xavix instead*. Afterall, the Wii stole nearly all of its "innovation" from the Xavix. Plus, Jackie Chan Studios has not graced teh Wii with a single title.

The Xavix was little more than a prototype machine...the games play like crap and none of them were very interesting to begin with. It's possible that Nintendo got some ideas from the Xavix, but I doubt it...this isn't exactly the first time Nintendo's messed with these kinds of control schemes. U-Force, anyone? Or perhaps Mattel's Power Glove?

And btw: GUTS, take your fanboyism elsewhere.

[esteban]

Seriously, though, I recommend you guys get a Xavix instead*. Afterall, the Wii stole nearly all of its "innovation" from the Xavix. Plus, Jackie Chan Studios has not graced teh Wii with a single title.

The Xavix was little more than a prototype machine...the games play like crap and none of them were very interesting to begin with. It's possible that Nintendo got some ideas from the Xavix, but I doubt it...this isn't exactly the first time Nintendo's messed with these kinds of control schemes. U-Force, anyone? Or perhaps Mattel's Power Glove?

And btw: GUTS, take your fanboyism elsewhere.

No, I'm not talking about peripherals like the Power Glove (or my favorite, the Activator for the Genesis!) which were "novel" means of controlling standard games. I'm talking about the revolutionary Xavix, whose entire raison d'etre was to provide folks with an experience that the Wii is only just now introducing to the masses.

Every game on the Xavix was developed around its own unique control scheme. There are no optional controllers or pads you can use. The Power Glove and Activator (etc. etc.) never had any software that was specifically and exclusively designed for it. For the NES, the only item that comes close to this was the Power Mat (since the control scheme and software were closely integrated and you had to use the mat to play the games designed for it). (It goes without saying that R.O.B. / Gyromite aren't germane to a discussion about Wii aping the Xavix).

Anyway, playing games on the Xavix can only be described as "pure bliss."

Instead of throwing my wiimote around, I use nifty props! I have hand weights! I have a mini bowling ball! Boxing gloves! A mini baseball bat! Mini raquets! A fishing pole! A golf club!

Come on, face it, nodtveidt: even the MARKETING of the Wii is a carbon-copy of that found for the Xavix*.

Nodtveidt, I hereby invite you (and your family) to join me for a Xavix marathon. We'll play every title I own. I'll even let you use the Jackie Chan Studio 1-pound handweights that came with my dance mat (or, to be more precise, my "J-Mat")! Normally, I never let anyone use these weights, because I don't want them to get sweaty!

*I'm actually not joking about the marketing. Look at any of the marketing for the Xavix and I bet you'll find it indistinguishable from the stuff Nintendo is doing. This, of course, shouldn't be surprising, since Nintendo stole the entire concept of the Xavix when creating the Wii!

[nodtveidt]

The thing is, I got to play with a Xavix and about 6 games for it awhile back...there was a baseball game, a bowling game, I think a boxing game as well...but they were all very stale, and the control scheme wasn't too good either (ie. very VERY unresponsive gameplay, made me want to never own one...had to keep switching "controllers" as well, which was aggravating). Whether or not the Wii rips off the Xavix isn't really relevant...some of the best ideas on the market today were borrowed from previous experiments with the same concept. If you wanted to get anal about the control scheme, then we can say that every console throughout the 80s ripped off video game machines from the 70s...ideas get reused when the concept works, and that's how it is.

EDIT: I wouldn't normally say this to you steve, but err...you're sounding like a Xavix fanboy with all of the "Nintendo stole the idea!" stuff...

[GUTS]

Well I was joking around about getting a 360, I don't give a flying f*ck what system people buy, especially on a forum full of anti-microsoft drones.  But honestly has anyone been impressed by the Wii so far?  Talk about a huge disappointment, even Zelda is just more of the same old bullshit, hell Okami wipes the f*cking FLOOR with Zelda in every way possible and that's on the PS2.

[Keranu]

Well I was joking around about getting a 360, I don't give a flying f*ck what system people buy, especially on a forum full of anti-microsoft drones.  But honestly has anyone been impressed by the Wii so far?  Talk about a huge disappointment, even Zelda is just more of the same old bullshit, hell Okami wipes the f*cking FLOOR with Zelda in every way possible and that's on the PS2.

Umm I have been more than impressed with the Wii and I have only played the frickin' pack in game ! The controls of the Wiimote came out even nicer than I imagined and the menus of the Wii are even a blast to control. Even though Wii Sports is the only game I have played for it, it's a great example that shows what the Wiimote is capable of and it's just a helluva lotta fun. I know you don't like pre-NES games, but for us gamers that do enjoy those games, I think they will love Wii Sports because it is incredibly easy to learn and play and is piles of fun.

My bro just rented Red Steel, gonna go try it now!

[nodtveidt]

I know a ton of people impressed by the Wii so far. No one's sold on the "antiquated" graphics but virtually everyone I know who has one has been glued to the screen, even with the pack-in, for hours on end. If that doesn't spell satisfaction, I don't know what does...don't judge a console by its graphics, Wii owners obviously aren't.

Furthermore...NO ONE I know has the new PS3, and down here, you can walk into most gaming stores and pick one or two up if you have that kind of cash. But a Wii? Impossible.

[_joshuaTurbo]

Call me old fashioned- but at times I say WOW! when I see the grafx of NEO GEO and Sega Saturn games, so to me the Wii grafx look totally amazing.  I'm glad Nintendo went the route they did with the Wii in terms of grafx, theres plenty that the developers will be able to do with this powerful of a graphic processor!

Zelda The Twilight Princess looks better than most 360 games I've played BTW:  just so you know- once you put in about 10 hours of this game you start thinking about 'calling in sick' and avoiding other responsabilities just to play.

Me personally, its been a HELL of a long time since I felt this way about a video game.  Finally Video Games have evolved.....


TurboSage(my 2 cents)

[Keranu]

I've said this many times before about Wii's graphics, so I'll just say it again:

1. ) I don't care if Wii's graphics are going to be much or any better than Gamecube's because I think Gamecube has awesome graphics to begin with.
 
2. ) To me, X-Box 360 and PS3 games don't look any better than X-Box or Gamecube's graphics.

3. ) I'll take the awesome new gaming concept of the Wii over graphics .

Furthermore...NO ONE I know has the new PS3, and down here, you can walk into most gaming stores and pick one or two up if you have that kind of cash. But a Wii? Impossible.

Please tell me you bought a PS3 or two and sold them on eBay to make a fortune? 

Just played very little of Red Steel. Can't say I am impressed with it, but that's mainly because I don't like modern FPS games. However I can say that the sword fighting is really cool and fun and that I think it's probably better than any other FPS these days just because it's a little easier to control. (I have using a mouse + keyboard and I hate using the two analog sticks even more) I'm hoping Metroid Prime 3 will be a lot better since it's actually made by Nintendo and not a company I don't really care for.

[nodtveidt]

Please tell me you bought a PS3 or two and sold them on eBay to make a fortune? 

Hehe...if I had $1200 to invest, I sure as hell wouldn't invest it into two PS3 units...regardless of the profits I could make off of them. Scalping just ain't my thing...

[esteban]

EDIT: I wouldn't normally say this to you steve, but err...you're sounding like a Xavix fanboy with all of the "Nintendo stole the idea!" stuff...

Nod, all of my posts about XaviX have been made with my tongue firmly in my cheek . Now, I really do believe that there are legitmate parallels between XaviX and Wii... but my posts were purposely outrageous!

Of course, I wasn't joking about inviting you over for a XaviX marathon. I would be honored if joined me .

[Michael Helgeson]

EDIT: I wouldn't normally say this to you steve, but err...you're sounding like a Xavix fanboy with all of the "Nintendo stole the idea!" stuff...

Nod, all of my posts about XaviX have been made with my tongue firmly in my cheek . Now, I really do believe that there are legitmate parallels between XaviX and Wii... but my posts were purposely outrageous!

Of course, I wasn't joking about inviting you over for a XaviX marathon. I would be honored if joined me .

For serious,I was totally convinced you thought it was a better gaming experience then anything else. You were starting to scare me. As for Gutts,your on here bitching about people on here hating Microsoft,but your also coming off as a extreme fanboy,like those defensive Sega Genesis kids that cried when Mortal Kombat 2 was released and was better on Snes.

Every system is going to have something to offer someone,and it just so happens that unless you have  a HD TV or a nice VGA monitor with  a cable for the 360,there isnt much point in owning one yet. With a lower end set up you dont really get to appreaciate what the 360 is supposed to offer,HD gaming.

Im iffy on the PS3,as I didnt like the PS2. I only see 2 games I want to play,and unless they release a VGA cable,I wont even think of buying one,because I have no plans to buy a HD TV. The Wii however is something I could get right now,be satisified with the composite or s-video function,and not worry too much. It requires little hassle to enjoy,and to me,what you get out of the box is worth the price.

Its pretty much designed for 640x480 res. Its also offering stuff I want,Gamecube capability,games my kids can play,and the potential to be hacked and allow normal roms to be played possibly without buying them. It is more of a family system. If I want to play on a hard core gaming system,Ill continue to play on my gaming pc,which mops the floor with the PS3 and 360 both.

[Michael Helgeson]

And Gutts,I love Microsoft,because of them,my awesome gaming computer is running on XP X64 edition. Not Linux:P

[Keranu]

Of course, I wasn't joking about inviting you over for a XaviX marathon. I would be honored if joined me .

Hey can I join?

[Keranu]

After playing more of Red Steel and getting to the controls more, I am enjoying the game a lot more. The controls take a bit to get used to, but after that it feels rather nice and works great for the FPS style. I also love the style of this game, it's kind of early 90's in a strange way. This game is also a lot more straight forward than other FPS', which is a plus side in my book.

[FM-77]

Hmmm, Xavix... was that some kind of toy/video game that only got released in North America? I've never heard of it before but I have heard of other strange "video game" systems directed at children.