Best Nintenclone?

[TR0N]

Famicom AV or Famicom Twin or nothing nuff said.

[Black Tiger]

Famicom AV or Famicom Twin or nothing nuff said.

He said he was looking for a cheap way to play NES games. 

[cavein2000]

I'm holding tight with my SNES hooked up with the Tristar Super 8 for all NES/SNES/FC/SFC needs!  I picked up a soldering iron and am eventually going to perform the mod in this FAQ to eliminate the white line problem. 

http://home.freeuk.net/markk/Consoles/Tri-Star_FAQ.txt

Cool, the Tri-Star.  How well does it handle Konami's VRC6 chip in Akumajou Densetsu?

 

Haven't tried it yet.  I know it didn't work with the MessiahNEX I had a while back.  I'll give it a go and let you know.

[Michael Helgeson]

I drove and hour and a half to the Starland store today to pick up one of those Yobo Neo Famis, with my copies of Lagrange Point, Akumajou Densetsu and Madara. But I changed my mind when I saw I had to use a Famicom converter.

My main concern is that if they support those sound expansion chips that some Famicom games have.

Yobo has Famicom and Nes versions of their system. I dont like the things,they had probs with games as said above. If it cant run Castlevania 3 or Gradius 2 then what good is it:(

[TR0N]

Famicom AV or Famicom Twin or nothing nuff said.

He said he was looking for a cheap way to play NES games. 

That's why i mention those two systems.

I'd all most recomend the messiah nex still since it won't play some games.

It wouldn't be worth getting in the frist place.

I've herd to many horror stories all ready on the other, famiclones having the same problem.

Mess up with the graphics or no sound on some games or.... controller "ports going bad just ask (ninja spirit) about that.

Btw if he's looking to save money i say go with a Famicom AV not boxed of corse.

japangamestock.com sells them plus with the (60to72 adapater) it can play nes carts as well.

[nat]

So is this "Yobo" the same thing as the "Neo Famicom"? (see following link)

Has anyone tried the Family Boy? Both appear here and I'm seriously considering the Family Boy:

http://www.gamesoftinc.com/NES.asp

[nat]

Hmm. After doing some more research, it seems like the Generation NEX is the way to go. I've learned that the Family Boy (sounds like the victim of rape in a third-world country, doesn't it?) can't use standard NES controllers. In all other respects, I'd probably go with the Family Boy but I read testimony somewhere that the Family Boy controllers are crap. They use some kind of 9 pin connector instead of the standard 7 pin NES connector. Does anybody know if there is a converter for this kind of thing? If so, I may still go with the Family Boy. Quite a bit cheaper, and apparently better quality graphic reproduction than the Yobo consoles. Better quality overall, it seems. Since I have a buttload of NES controllers, using some 3rd party garbage is ridiculous.

It's worth noting that in my search for a converter I stumbled across a PS2->PCE/Duo controller adapter. I had no idea such a device existed, though I have no clue why anybody would want to use a PS2 controller on a PCE.

Also, cart compatiblity is not really an issue for me since I still have a working NES console. Although it does suffer heavily from the "blinking" syndrome. (This can be remedied by pushing the cart to the left or right while seated in the console.) The clone would become my primary NES player with the NES as a secondary option for the few carts that didn't work on the clone, if I even own any.

[Ninja Spirit]

Ah for the newcomers, lemme recap my mishaps with a Famiclone.

I had a Hong Kong made Sachen QBoy, in which it had pins similar to the Atari and earlier Sega systems. After playing for awhile, the controls would reverse, then I would have to unplug and replug the controller, which causes the game to freeze up. That was one reason why I never got to finish Final Fantasy II when I made it to Pandemonium. When I had to play around with the port, it totally destroyed all the data! I couldn't use controller 2 because it DOESN'T have a select and start button.

Eventually, the pins in controller 1 became brittle and fell out. Unless some techie can custom swap the controller ports out of a doornail dead NES, my QBoy is useless. But as long as it runs games very well, I still believe there's some way to save it.

[Black Tiger]

Hmm. After doing some more research, it seems like the Generation NEX is the way to go. I've learned that the Family Boy (sounds like the victim of rape in a third-world country, doesn't it?) can't use standard NES controllers. In all other respects, I'd probably go with the Family Boy but I read testimony somewhere that the Family Boy controllers are crap. They use some kind of 9 pin connector instead of the standard 7 pin NES connector. Does anybody know if there is a converter for this kind of thing? If so, I may still go with the Family Boy. Quite a bit cheaper, and apparently better quality graphic reproduction than the Yobo consoles. Better quality overall, it seems. Since I have a buttload of NES controllers, using some 3rd party garbage is ridiculous.

It's worth noting that in my search for a converter I stumbled across a PS2->PCE/Duo controller adapter. I had no idea such a device existed, though I have no clue why anybody would want to use a PS2 controller on a PCE.

Also, cart compatiblity is not really an issue for me since I still have a working NES console. Although it does suffer heavily from the "blinking" syndrome. (This can be remedied by pushing the cart to the left or right while seated in the console.) The clone would become my primary NES player with the NES as a secondary option for the few carts that didn't work on the clone, if I even own any.

You also get to use some nice wireless pads with the NEX.

I don't know about you, but the only incapatible game of the few on this list that I might miss is Castlevania III.

http://www.playmessiah.com/products/nex/compatibilitylist.htm

Anyone know where there's a list or info on Famicom compatibility and or glitches in compatible NES games? Does anyone know first hand what happens when you play Konami FC games that have that music chip(hopefully you still get the 'regular' music)?

[nat]

Yup, already looked at that. And I concur. That's the only game I would possibly miss. And since I still have a semi-working NES, I could always play that game on the real deal.

I heard nobody has formulated a Famicom compatibility list yet.

[Michael Helgeson]

Ah for the newcomers, lemme recap my mishaps with a Famiclone.

I had a Hong Kong made Sachen QBoy, in which it had pins similar to the Atari and earlier Sega systems. After playing for awhile, the controls would reverse, then I would have to unplug and replug the controller, which causes the game to freeze up. That was one reason why I never got to finish Final Fantasy II when I made it to Pandemonium. When I had to play around with the port, it totally destroyed all the data! I couldn't use controller 2 because it DOESN'T have a select and start button.

Eventually, the pins in controller 1 became brittle and fell out. Unless some techie can custom swap the controller ports out of a doornail dead NES, my QBoy is useless. But as long as it runs games very well, I still believe there's some way to save it.

Sounds like it didn't run games very well at all,and there isn't a point in saving it. The controller issues sounds like theres more going on then just brittle connectors,sounds like  a bad chip,electrical issue of some type.

[FM-77]

Keep in mind that Nintendo clones are crap. They will break eventually, even if you are handling it with care. Mine started smoking (by just being plugged in - I wasn't using it), and shortly thereafter the ac-adapter actually melted (and got stuck in the floor) (this could've been really dangerous).

[nat]

I don't know, that Generation NEX seems ilke a fairly quality product compared to the rest of them... I've heard good feedback from numerous sources about that one.

[Black Tiger]

Keep in mind that Nintendo clones are crap. They will break eventually, even if you are handling it with care. Mine started smoking (by just being plugged in - I wasn't using it), and shortly thereafter the ac-adapter actually melted (and got stuck in the floor) (this could've been really dangerous).

I've seen most of the new popular ones for sale locally, but no matter how low priced some get, I couldn't bring myself to buy one over ordering the Generation NEX(which i put off for too long).

I've had various problems with various Nintenclones over the years and wouldn't feel confident playing a game for more than a few minutes on one, especially after hearing Ninja Spirit's story.

[nat]

Well, I placed my order for the NEX today. My significant other is paying for it as a birthday gift. I'll give a report on how it handles my small-ish NES library when it arrives.