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Kitsunexus

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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2007, 01:12:57 PM »
I once spoke with someone who claimed that they were able to increase the performance of the SNES by tweaking the clock chip. I don't know if this was true or not. However, back in the NES days, a friend of mine and I removed the 6502 from an NES machine and inserted a 4MHz 65C02. A lot of games wouldn't run, but a couple did. They were quite unplayable though...it seems that the interface chip is governed by the CPU and operates too fast if the CPU speed is increased. So the controls worked too fast for the games, events were skipped left and right.


I thought that the NES didn't use a stock 6502, it used a variant called the Ricoh 2A03, not only the CPU, but the sound chip/contoller as well.

So not only would the games be insanely fast, they'd also have no sound.

I think the 6502 swap would be entirely possible on a C64, though.

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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2007, 01:14:16 PM »
SNES is the best Nintendo system, However I wish it used something like the Genesis's CPU instead of the weakass chip it has, it could have DOMINATED AND KILLED Sega right then if it did.

Well they did DOMINATE and KILL Sega... at least in Europe. :P I don't really get why everybody's complaining about the CPU though... I don't see a problem with it. I think the SNES is a very impressive machine for its time. Unlike the MD/PCE.

The MD & PCE were released in the time of the NES & SMS. The SNES was released shortly before the 3DO and Jaguar.
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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2007, 01:20:29 PM »

Here's a video of an overclocked SNES in action.

With results like that, why would you want to?  :shock:

Well that was a super overclocked one. :) It works fine if you overclock it a little less, hehehe.

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2007, 01:43:08 PM »
Overclocking is something that can be done for whole bunch of other systems, but I never really understood the appeal behind it.  True that a few games will run smoother, but the cons > pros.  Unlike PC games, since console games are designed and tested with that single setup, vast majority of the games would run at speeds that are faster than what was intended by the developers.  Add the incompatibility & sound warping issues, and I don't really see a point.

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2007, 02:19:43 PM »
Overclocking is something that can be done for whole bunch of other systems, but I never really understood the appeal behind it.  True that a few games will run smoother, but the cons > pros.  Unlike PC games, since console games are designed and tested with that single setup, vast majority of the games would run at speeds that are faster than what was intended by the developers.  Add the incompatibility & sound warping issues, and I don't really see a point.
Agreed.

And speaking of which, there is a weird glitch I've noticed with my SNES (it's the smaller American model). Sometimes while playing a game, specifically Secret of Mana, it will screw up and the game will run insanely fast for no reason. I'm not sure if it's my SNES doing it or certain carts, but it's really weird.
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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2007, 02:27:55 PM »
Overclocking is for fun, not because it is necessary. Also because it is cool. Therefore: overlocking = essential. :wink:

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2007, 02:50:36 PM »
I can understand overclocking just for curiosity's sake.  But beyond that it is fairly useless.

Also I picked NES because it had lots of good games.  The SNES had to rely on slow text adventure games like RPGs, though it does have plenty of real games that are good.  The SNES itself is crippled and even early games required the "extra chip in the cartridge" crutch.  Of course, the same can be said for the NES.

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2007, 02:55:57 PM »
Why isn't the Virtual Boy listed?
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2007, 03:00:32 PM »
I can understand overclocking just for curiosity's sake.  But beyond that it is fairly useless.

Also I picked NES because it had lots of good games.  The SNES had to rely on slow text adventure games like RPGs, though it does have plenty of real games that are good.  The SNES itself is crippled and even early games required the "extra chip in the cartridge" crutch.  Of course, the same can be said for the NES.

Personally I don't care how the games are pulled off, whether with extra chips, hardware upgrades or entirely different consoles.

All that matters is the end result. Which is why I voted NES. It has the most games I enjoy playing by a huge margin.
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2007, 03:05:10 PM »
Why isn't the Virtual Boy listed?
Because it sucks? It cannot be voted as Nintendo's best console, simply because it isn't. :P

Also: It could be considered a portable. Something that's not present in this list whatsoever. Had they been, I would've voted for the original Game Boy. Why? Because it rules.

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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2007, 03:07:33 PM »
Consoles attach to televisions. As big as it is, the virtual boy is technically a portable, not a console.
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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2007, 03:33:43 PM »
Ugh, they're all so bad.  Most NES games are so antiquated that they're practically unplayable now, the SNES never had much aside from Super Castlevania IV, and the GameCube and Wii are both complete jokes.

I guess I'll pick the N64, if only for the amazing Ocarina of Time. 
You're silly :) . NES / SFC is hands-down the best Nintendo system. :)

I agree with Black_Tiger, Joe, and Keranu. Tons of friggin' great games on the NES, and they are still very playable, despite what Mr. Sour-ruder says.

Hell, even Balloon Fight kicks your ass. I love that game.
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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2007, 03:49:09 PM »
Whoops, I forgot this was for Nintendo's best "console" only, so no portables.

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Hell, even Balloon Fight kicks your ass. I love that game.
Have you ever played Balloon Trip for Gameboy? It's a really awesome sequel to Balloon Fight! There is also this bonus game in Wario Ware: Smooth Moves for Wii that takes Balloon Fight and changes it to a third person perspective and you control it by "flapping" the nunchuck and Wiimote - lots of fun!
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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2007, 04:05:32 PM »
Whoops, I forgot this was for Nintendo's best "console" only, so no portables.

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Hell, even Balloon Fight kicks your ass. I love that game.
Have you ever played Balloon Trip for Gameboy? It's a really awesome sequel to Balloon Fight! There is also this bonus game in Wario Ware: Smooth Moves for Wii that takes Balloon Fight and changes it to a third person perspective and you control it by "flapping" the nunchuck and Wiimote - lots of fun!
Crap, looks like I'll have to find Balloon Trip for Gameboy. Thanks. :)
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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2007, 04:50:19 PM »
NES all the way follow by SNES then Wii.

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