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Keranu

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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2007, 04:56:54 PM »
Whoops, I forgot this was for Nintendo's best "console" only, so no portables.

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Hell, even Balloon Fight kicks your ass. I love that game.
Have you ever played Balloon Trip for Gameboy? It's a really awesome sequel to Balloon Fight! There is also this bonus game in Wario Ware: Smooth Moves for Wii that takes Balloon Fight and changes it to a third person perspective and you control it by "flapping" the nunchuck and Wiimote - lots of fun!
Crap, looks like I'll have to find Balloon Trip for Gameboy. Thanks. :)
It's really cool. Each level has a unique design and you can remove your balloons to walk and jump on platforms (and by tapping down, you can inflate your balloons again), not to mention some boss fights! There's also a fun scoring mode too.
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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2007, 05:32:47 PM »
SNES, followed by a tie between NES and Gamecube. My SNES gets more play than any other system, even *slightly* beating out the PCE.

I can see the gamecube becoming a cult system like the Dreamcast in the future. Its got the BEST traditional controller ever: the Wavebird, and the absolute best addon ever: the gameboy player. Despite getting pinched out last generation, there are a TON of really quality games on it. It doesnt have the sheer volume of games the PS2 did, but there are so many incredible ones available that its more than most of us "grown up" have time to play anyhow.

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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2007, 11:58:52 PM »
Hell, even Balloon Fight kicks your ass. I love that game.

Even...? Even? What do you mean by "even"? Balloon Fight happens to be the greatest piece of software any human's ever written. It is THE game. This is what justifies the video game industry. It could easily live on with just this single title released again and again and again...

Needless to say, I think Ballon Fight's all right.

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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2007, 12:02:03 AM »
I can see the gamecube becoming a cult system like the Dreamcast in the future. Its got the BEST traditional controller ever: the Wavebird, and the absolute best addon ever: the gameboy player. Despite getting pinched out last generation, there are a TON of really quality games on it. It doesnt have the sheer volume of games the PS2 did, but there are so many incredible ones available that its more than most of us "grown up" have time to play anyhow.
I don't see what's so great about the Game Boy Player, unless you like to play blurry and poorly emulated games on your TV. It should've been a real Game Boy, not an emulator... It doesn't work very well (choppy scrolling in some games, etc). Besides, there aren't many GBA games worth playing anyway, especially not in the future. At least playing them on a real GBA/DS gives a sharp picture (depending on the games, many GBA games are intentionally made very blurry for some reason, giving them a very 1995-ish CG look).

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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2007, 12:57:45 AM »
Seldane,

Do you own a gameboy player?

I recently picked one up, because I do not like staring at a small screen to play a game, I prefer messing with things on a larger screen. I found out there were some games on the GBA that may interest me (such as the updated Link), and I can pick them up for cheap! Due to my dislike for handhelds I never looked much into it. When I read abotu the GB Player a few months ago, it seemed pretty cool! It would give me a chance to play GBA, GBC, and GB games on a large screen. Pretty much an updated Super Gameboy!

It's not perfect, but neither was the Super Gameboy I used to own. Not all of Super Gameboy's borders or colour palettes are here, though that's no big deal, Super Gameboy was ten years ago.

The picture looks sharp enough for me. I don't notice any blurring. Things may appear a slight bit softer, however.

Also, not sure what these choppiness is you talk of. If it's present on a GBP it is probably also present on a Gameboy. So far, the few games I've played around with on a GBP have been fluid and good looking.

This reminds me of when people who are used to DVD complain about VHS' appearance on a large screen. There is a limit to how nice these things are going to look once you blow them up larger. There is also how Gameboy games were designed for smaller screens, so it doesn't bother me if it looks a bit "off" sometimes due to being blown up on a larger screen.

Also, I think the guts of the Gameboy player are pretty much the same stuff in a gameboy, from what I read. I've never dismanted one, so I can't say for sure.

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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2007, 01:11:32 AM »
I sure have a Game Boy Player. And a Game Boy Advance. The choppiness isn't there on the real Game Boy.I want the sharpest possible picture always. It would be cool to have a large monitor instead of a TV so that I could see each individual pixel just as in an emulator. That'd be sweet.

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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2007, 01:20:02 AM »
I don't have a point of reference, so nothign much for me to say about perceived choppiness.

It works fine for me and the few games I play on it, which happens about once a week so far.

Computer monitors are of a higher resolution than Televisions (in general), much of what you see on a monitor will always look sharper than standard (not High) definition on a television.

I've only tried a GBP through S-Video, i do not have the pricey component cables, however that may improve the resolution a bit for the GBP.
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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2007, 01:22:36 AM »
I'm using RGB for the Gamecube, so that's not the problem. I also use the sharpest video setting in GBP, but it still doesn't look nearly as sharp as, say, the SNES (also with RGB).

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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2007, 01:29:19 AM »
Well, still with RGB it does not approach the resolution a computer monitor is capable of. RGB is better than my video out on the GC, though.

In general, if it's a choice between having and not having any way to play these games on a large screen, I'll choose the ability to put these games on a  larger screen.

For me, it looks "sharp enough", hah, about as nice as I recall the Super Gameboy being.
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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2007, 02:16:16 AM »
I don't see what's so great about the Game Boy Player, unless you like to play blurry and poorly emulated games on your TV. It should've been a real Game Boy, not an emulator... It doesn't work very well (choppy scrolling in some games, etc). Besides, there aren't many GBA games worth playing anyway, especially not in the future. At least playing them on a real GBA/DS gives a sharp picture (depending on the games, many GBA games are intentionally made very blurry for some reason, giving them a very 1995-ish CG look).

How does playing an original Game Boy game on a Super Gameboy (SNES) compare to playing it on a Game Boy Player (GAMECUBE)?

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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2007, 02:32:04 AM »
I don't see what's so great about the Game Boy Player, unless you like to play blurry and poorly emulated games on your TV. It should've been a real Game Boy, not an emulator... It doesn't work very well (choppy scrolling in some games, etc). Besides, there aren't many GBA games worth playing anyway, especially not in the future. At least playing them on a real GBA/DS gives a sharp picture (depending on the games, many GBA games are intentionally made very blurry for some reason, giving them a very 1995-ish CG look).

How does playing an original Game Boy game on a Super Gameboy (SNES) compare to playing it on a Game Boy Player (GAMECUBE)?

Don't know. I don't have a Super Game Boy. SGB doesn't stretch the picture though, does it? Maybe it doubles the resolution or something, but the GB Player seems to stretch the resolution in odd ways, hence the blurry picture.

MrFulci: Playing old video game systems on a monitor will not increase the resolution of the games. They will still run in the same low resolution as the system outputs, as long as the monitor supports it. If it doesn't (which it normally won't) - it will display flicker. Or nothing.

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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2007, 03:05:47 AM »
Whoops, I forgot this was for Nintendo's best "console" only, so no portables.

Quote from: steve
Hell, even Balloon Fight kicks your ass. I love that game.

Have you ever played Balloon Trip for Gameboy? It's a really awesome sequel to Balloon Fight! There is also this bonus game in Wario Ware: Smooth Moves for Wii that takes Balloon Fight and changes it to a third person perspective and you control it by "flapping" the nunchuck and Wiimote - lots of fun!
Crap, looks like I'll have to find Balloon Trip for Gameboy. Thanks. :)
It's really cool. Each level has a unique design and you can remove your balloons to walk and jump on platforms (and by tapping down, you can inflate your balloons again), not to mention some boss fights! There's also a fun scoring mode too.


Sorry guys, it's Balloon Fight DS FTW!!! :)



Just got it today. :D  Haven't played it yet though. 

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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2007, 03:43:10 AM »
Seldane, you said,

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It would be cool to have a large monitor instead of a TV so that I could see each individual pixel just as in an emulator. That'd be sweet.

My reply was a bit vague. I was saying, in general, a computer monitor can handle resolution higher than a standard television. so emulated games on a computer monitor MIGHT look sharper than a television.

Kit,

I haven't fooled around with the Super Gameboy in about 10 years, though from what I recall going from gameboy to supergameboy was pretty nice. Things didn't look as sharp as the screen on a gameboy, however the "selling point" of the Super Gameboy (And Gameboy Player) is being able to play GB games on a larger screen. I get what I pay for, I'm not going to be terribly picky about the display of a game that is normally supposed to be played on a small screen the size of my palm. Plus the added features of colour palettes for mono colour GB games is pretty nice.

The GB player has a leg-up on the Super Gameboy. Granted, not all of the palettes and borders were placed on the Gameboy Player, The Gameboy Player supports many more games. The SGB only supports regular gameboy games (I think part of the marketing campaign for that was, "now play your gameboy games... IN COLOR!"), the GBP player supports those games, PLUS GBC and GBA.

Yeah, the picture is being, "stretched out". These games were designed with a small screen in mind.


ug, didn't think I'd type so much about this piece of hardware, expecially on a Pc Engine board, hahaha.

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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2007, 03:55:17 AM »
Cool, thanks. I passed up a SuperGameBoy for like $3.00, now I won't be losing any sleep over that.

And if you really want to play your console games on a monitor, scope this:

http://www.ramelectronics.net/HTML/video-to-vga.html#hd15rgb

Just like PS2 Linux - your monitor needs sync-on-green...
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Re: Nintendo's best console
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2007, 04:03:12 AM »
The gameboy player isnt emulation, its a complete GBA minus the screen & buttons, which it uses the cube for.  The supergameboy was the same way, albeit with a gameboy processor.

Plus, you guys complete missed the whole point of the GBPlayer: It makes the gamecube into an actual CUBE :D