Franchises that refuse to give people what they want.

[Keranu]

Me and my brothers all beat it in practically one sitting.

[Black Tiger]

Me and my brothers all beat it in practically one sitting.

I haven't played more than a few levels. But my girlfriend got stuck once or twice and before she figured it out, I grabbed the DS and blazed through each area without understand all the controls. 

I still prefer easy good-games over cheap hard good ones.

[kenomac78]

i feel that the only true  withholden franchise is sonic. nothing has been good since sonic 3. the adventures 1 and 2  were ok but really the series has been in the toilet for 10 years.

mario series is close 2nd but they do take their time on making sure the game is great, then waiting an extra year to release it. if you think about it mario bros came out in 1983 and smb in 85, which ever you want to count first. super mario galaxy would only be super mario bros. 8 or 9, depening on if you count new smb, personally i dont. so thats 8 or 9 games in 22 years!  look at mega man, sonic, final fantasy and others, more games in less time or the same number of games in less time. instead there were 90 spinoffs of games you didnt need like mario tennis and baseball and 8 damn mario partys! but kart and smash bros series are good.

also nintendo has still never given us a true sequal to kid icarus, which i know makes many people mad, and now we have gone past the nes, snes, 64, and game cube waiting. the kind of game we missed out on! hopefully there will be one for wii.

after that theres a lot of  different games with no sequels i would like to see 

[FM-77]

You count stuff like Mario Sunshine and Galaxy but not New Mario? Why?

[esteban]

Well, my list doesn't really count because these series are dead, but I'd like to add:

1. Rygar -- The PS2 version was an unexpected gift, but it just made me lust for a true sequel to Rygar NES. Yes, that's right, I know I'm probably in the minority, but as much as I love Rygar Arcade (& Lynx), the NES Rygar had so much more going for it (exploration, depth, obtaining items to progress, etc.). Personally, Rygar PS2 really didn't satisfy my desire for a new Rygar game. Even though I want Neo-Rygar-NES, I'd love to play a new game that was a direct descendent of the arcade, in 2D with multiple branching paths and tons of hack-n-slash fury. OK, I don't know what the new Wii Rygar game is gonna be like, but I have my doubts...

2. Ninja Gaiden -- I actually love the Xbox game (despite the fact that it kicks my ass)... it is was of the turning points for me in how I looked at the Xbox. That said, I really don't consider it part of the Ninja Gaiden series (sorry!). Yes, I want an old-skool Ninja Gaiden game in 2D with over-the-top action that demands platforming skills, first and foremost. Then, hack-n-slash. Hmmmm, it seems as if there is a theme to my top 2 picks. I know it sounds corny, but I would love a great story to be part of a new NG 2D game -- something that revisits the old games and really incorporates some of the old storylines. You know, I wouldn't mind a prequel or a NG 1.5 as far as storylines go...

3. Contra -- COME ON! I'm sorry, but I really wanted more from the recent entries. You know what I am talking about. I want 100% action, non-stop. I want creativity. But no, I don't want to feel as if I am spending a lot of time merely watching the game, waiting to play it. MOST OF ALL, I want the atmosphere to go back to the brooding, scary Alien-esque atmosphere of the original game. I don't care if they are lazy and blatantly rip-off Aliens, so long as they get they conjure up a convincingly spooky atmosphere. Of course, it would be better if they simply use Aliens (and Predator) as a starting point and add some bizarre, unique twists to the Contra universe. I mention Predator because I realized that Contra had lush tropical jungles and was set on Earth...

[Kitsunexus]

Contra wasn't supposed to be spooky, dude. It was supposed to be like an 80's action movie, otherwise they wouldn't have NES progressive rock music for every stage.

This being said, all Contras after 1 (excluding HardCorps) suck.

[GUTS]

Super C was amazing, I like it better than the original.  The gameboy version was pretty sweet too.

[TR0N]

Simple a castlevania in 2d for the current consoles.

No more of this keeping them on handheld only bs.

Still i guess konami is too retarded to get the hint. Yet... they keep forceing the 3d ones out and, fail every time at some level.

[esteban]

GUTS is quite right, Super C was (is) a phenomenal game.

Contra wasn't supposed to be spooky, dude. It was supposed to be like an 80's action movie, otherwise they wouldn't have NES progressive rock music for every stage.

This being said, all Contras after 1 (excluding HardCorps) suck.

Maybe you don't like the word spooky, perhaps I should choose a better word: I want tension, a thrilling experience that is scary. Spooky even. When I played Contra arcade, and Contra NES, I was *scared*: partly because I didn't know what to expect next, and partly because the setting / theme was sci-fi with a dash of horror. I'm sorry if you don't think that Aliens / Predator was sci-fi with a dash of horror, but that is how I always felt about the movies and the games.

I want Contra w/ two extra servings of sci-fi horror. That's what I want. Maybe I am not asking for the orginal formula (which only hinted at things), maybe I want something else.

This is a thread about fantasies, isn't it?

[Kitsunexus]

Contra was more Rambo/Predator than it was Aliens/Predator, dude.


And after reading this thread, I've come to the realization that you could change the title from "Franchises that refuse to give people what they want" to Franchises that refuse to DIE!!", and no one would care, possibly most would agree.

[esteban]

Contra was more Rambo/Predator than it was Aliens/Predator, dude.


And after reading this thread, I've come to the realization that you could change the title from "Franchises that refuse to give people what they want" to Franchises that refuse to DIE!!", and no one would care, possibly most would agree.

Sorry, Contra will always be Aliens / Predator for me.

[Black Tiger]

Contra was more Rambo/Predator than it was Aliens/Predator, dude.


And after reading this thread, I've come to the realization that you could change the title from "Franchises that refuse to give people what they want" to Franchises that refuse to DIE!!", and no one would care, possibly most would agree.

Sorry, Contra will always be Aliens / Predator for me.

Kitsunexus, Aliens is the one where they send in the marines to a remote base, who end up battling a large Alien at the end.

[offsidewing]

Yeah, Contra, isn't that the game with the two Hudson/Hicks lookin' dudes AND a giant Alien on the Box art?

The top of the Waterfall level (Level 3 I think??) you battle a giant alien beast.  Level 2 boss is vampire looking dudes.  The end boss it simply a giant alien. I remember the music been exceedingly creepy in a couple parts.  I dunno, It's been almost 20 years since I played it at the neighbors, so I could be wrong.

Rush'n Attack was straight up Rambo-esqe. Ikari Warriors was all kinds of crazy.

[Keranu]

Rush n' Attack kicks so much ass!

[Black Tiger]

Rush n' Attack kicks so much ass!

In Soviet Rush, ass kicks you!