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Kitsunexus

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Re: Ultimate 2D console
« Reply #60 on: June 15, 2007, 04:23:50 PM »
FMV, if done right (and not every 4 seconds), can be enjoyable as a means of conveying a story.

It is not, however, an enjoyable means of conveying gameplay.


I also believe that Battle Heat could very well be ported to PCE. My proof lies in the Gameboy Color version of Dragon's Lair. This is not the sucky platform game, this is the actual arcade game, each frame converted to sprites, and it is playable on the GBC. Find the ROM, it's very interesting.

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« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2007, 07:17:17 AM »
It would be a lot of fun to see any PC-FX game ported to PCE, though FMV-based ones like Battle Heat would be tricky.

No idea what Battle Heat on the FX is, but if it needs FMV, the PC Engine has the amazing HuVideo which looks way better than the new generation of High Definition DVD formats!   :^o

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« Reply #62 on: June 16, 2007, 07:19:38 AM »
Battle Heat seems like a good idea on paper, but I find it's nearly impossible to play.

But there's also a small possibility that I'm simply retarded and can't figure out when to execute moves.

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« Reply #63 on: June 16, 2007, 11:46:05 AM »
Battle Heat is possible to play. I never got good at it, but once I figured some things out, it was pretty neat.
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

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« Reply #64 on: June 16, 2007, 12:16:33 PM »
So how do you do it? Please share your wisdom with me. I try to execute moves according to the manual but my character literally just sits there while the CPU delivers wallop after wallop. I get the feeling I'm not exectuing them at the right time or something. Do I have to wait for the FMV of my opponent to stop? That's generally what I do but I get the idea that's not a good strategy.

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« Reply #65 on: June 16, 2007, 12:18:38 PM »
I haven't played it in a long time, so I'd have to load it up again to see. Aaron Nanto has a movelist guide on his PC-FX site somewhere.
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

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« Reply #66 on: June 16, 2007, 08:49:28 PM »
They have some of those that run in the $200 - $400 range. They're not very good, they're just game-on-chip units wired up to a subpar arcade cabinet.

It's like, if you WANT a multi-arcade cabinet, go build a MAME cab or liberate a Nintendo Playchoice from some abandoned bowling alley.
It probably would cost equal to build a MAME cabinet and I did think about it a few times while back. I just don't know if I'm ready to put in hundreds of hours and dollars for something that I could rather just buy instead of building, then again, it would be better if I built it instead because then I have put in all the effort and my own imaginative customizations to it. Then I would truly have more a right to call it my own if I built it.

Plus if you build it, you'll have good emulation, not shit emulation.
New problem, I don't want to build an arcade game with a computer emulating it. Is it possible I could just build a arcade game machine using 100% authentic arcade parts? I've tried googling everywhere and only came across sites that tell you how to build arcade cabinets using shit like MAME.

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« Reply #67 on: June 16, 2007, 09:04:29 PM »
Its very possible. Just get an old arcade,  convert the monitor connector to plug in to your computer. Then get x arcade joystick or keyboard button mapper to connect to the joystick and bottons. Then your all set. I've been working on an arcade project myself, but it is far from complete.

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« Reply #68 on: June 16, 2007, 09:13:36 PM »
I mean I don't want to use a computer to emulate the arcade. I want to build a cabinet with the screen, the joystick and buttons, the sound system and speakers, the power supply, the game program on big electronic board, and I don't know what else I may need because the only sites I can find only tell me how to do it the computer emulation way.

Kitsunexus

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« Reply #69 on: June 17, 2007, 05:21:01 AM »
Oh, it's possible,but it'd be a bit difficult and expensive.

Here's a good place to buy parts:

http://www.quarterarcade.com/Browse.aspx?c=All.Parts


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« Reply #70 on: June 17, 2007, 06:21:21 AM »
You will need a guide of some type for getting the wood cust. cut and you will have to put it all together. In cases like this I suggest building a bottom half and  a top half. It would be easier to move then.

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« Reply #71 on: June 17, 2007, 06:25:07 AM »
Wood?  I thought most arcade cabs were made out of particle board.  Only the best, y'know?

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Re: Ultimate 2D console
« Reply #72 on: June 17, 2007, 07:24:19 AM »
Hey! Why do you guys turn every single thread into arcade threads? :(

Kitsunexus

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Re: Ultimate 2D console
« Reply #73 on: June 17, 2007, 08:42:43 AM »
Hey! Why do you guys turn every single thread into arcade threads? :(

Because the arcade is pwnage.

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Re: Ultimate 2D console
« Reply #74 on: June 17, 2007, 02:26:46 PM »
I mean I don't want to use a computer to emulate the arcade. I want to build a cabinet with the screen, the joystick and buttons, the sound system and speakers, the power supply, the game program on big electronic board, and I don't know what else I may need because the only sites I can find only tell me how to do it the computer emulation way.

The reason why you only find DIYs for MAME cabinets is because if you wanted an arcade machine you can just buy one. Maybe I'm missing something, but this seems really really obvious to me.

Actual arcade machines are usually much simpler than MAME machines since virtually everything is build onto the PCBs. An arcade machine is just a power supply, some joysticks, and a monitor fitted into a moldy, rotted-out, rat's nest with a few deadly spiders thrown in. If you live in the US you can find arcade machines for sale cheap in almost every city.

If you want something a little more permanent, you should buy one of the fiberglass models from Japan like a NeoCady, or Sega Astro/Blast City, or whatever. They usually have much bigger monitors that you can rotate if you feel like going from fighters to shooters. My friend bought his Astro City on eBay for about $300. It was in California, and cost another $300 to ship it to Michigan via yellow freight. The cheaper route would be to buy an unwanted MVS, or Street Fighter machine or something, but chances are you'll end up replacing everything in it at a greater cost further down the road. The most expensive part is the monitor.
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