PSP vs. DS

[MissaFX]

No matter how good the assembly programmer, there is no way the DS can look graphically superior to the PSP.

That's entirely dependent on whoever makes the graphics. I've seen some 3D DS games that put some 3D PSP games to shame in the graphics department. This comparison only holds weight if the two top developers for both consoles were to put forth their very best effort, and since this will never, ever happen (gotta keep that cash flow going, and you can't do that if you spend too much time on a game), neither console has any real advantage and both look pretty much the same, with some games having a momentary advantage.

There is no working DS emulator for the PSP, the early attempt thus far isn't anywhere near being able to be called functional. Maybe in a year.

This is what I said about DS emulation:

There was a DS emulator which ran something like a Hello World, but there is currently no DS emulator for the PSP.

How does what you say refute my argument?

It seems your other argument here is that the best DS game you have ever seen was better than the worst PSP game you have ever seen.  This could be true, there are a few ugly, early PSP games.  However I still believe it is a fact that the DS's 3-D is 90% of the time or more inferior to the PSP.

[SignOfZeta]

neither console has any real advantage and both look pretty much the same, with some games having a momentary advantage.

You're batty. There is no way in hell the DS can do something like Shotoku Battle the way the PSP does it. Of course, you're going to recharge your battery between every race because the load time is f*cking *horrible*, but regardless, its way way beyond the DS.

Once again, I think you people are just playing the wrong games.

[GUTS]

I can't believe somebody just said that the PSP and DS graphics look about the same, holy shit.  Thats like saying the PSone and Dreamcast have about equal graphics.

[nodtveidt]

People, we can nitpick over specific examples all day long and it doesn't make a shits bits worth of difference. Fact is that I've yet to see a PSP game so "uber-great!!!" that I just have to buy it. The games look no better than DS games, irregardless of 2D or 3D.

And frankly, I rarely saw a huge difference between the PS1 and the DC. The DC had an advantage sometimes but for the most part, the games looked pretty damn similar. But hey, excuse me for not noticing the difference of 1k more polys per second on the DC.

Fanboys suck.

Missa: I wasn't refuting your argument.

[MissaFX]

Missa: I wasn't refuting your argument.

Ok, the thing that makes it funny to me is that I stayed up all last night playing a DS game (the new advance wars).  From level 1 to 16 (and most of the optional levels too) without a break.  It's a great game!

I've never blindly followed a single brand myself, I just buy the systems which will play the games I want to play.  If the DS was really "all that" I would own 3 DSs instead of 3 PSPs and 1 DS, in the end that's my personal final argument. 

I hate Sony but I am willing to give them business, three times because their portable is so fun to multiplay with.

[SignOfZeta]

People, we can nitpick over specific examples all day long and it doesn't make a shits bits worth of difference. Fact is that I've yet to see a PSP game so "uber-great!!!" that I just have to buy it. The games look no better than DS games, irregardless of 2D or 3D.

And frankly, I rarely saw a huge difference between the PS1 and the DC. The DC had an advantage sometimes but for the most part, the games looked pretty damn similar. But hey, excuse me for not noticing the difference of 1k more polys per second on the DC.

Yeah dude, I think you are blind or something. The Dreamcast is a hundred times more powerful that the PS1. The DC was the first system to have 3D games I actually liked because I could actually tell WTF I was looking at.

Hell, you can even run PS1 games on the DC under Bleemcast and see a huge difference in quality, and that's just updating the resolution and texture smoothing. The poly count is the same since its still a PS game.

Shenmue on PS1? Yeah, I don't think so.

[nat]

Haha, yeah, the DC is definitely much closer to the PS2 graphically than the PS1. I refuse to touch 99% of the 3D games on the PS1 because those first generation polygons are ass-ugly. I wish we could erase that era of gaming from history. The Nintendo 64 was a little better but not much. I still stear clear of most of that shit.

The DC on the other hand completely rules. I love it.

Shenmue on PS1? Yeah, I don't think so.

Not even close...

[GUTS]

Oh yes we're all Dreamcast/PSP fanboys because we can see the difference in graphics between them and inferior systems, very astute observation there.

[Keranu]

I agree with nod where I don't think PSP games look majorly better or anything, even though I really haven't seen enough to give a good judgement. They both look like 32-bit era graphics except better to me.

[nodtveidt]

GUTS: Die.

[MissaFX]

Oh yes we're all Dreamcast/PSP fanboys because we can see the difference in graphics between them and inferior systems, very astute observation there.

Preach on brotha'

[Kitsunexus]

Oh yes we're all Dreamcast/PSP fanboys because we can see the difference in graphics between them and inferior systems, very astute observation there.

Rock the f*ck on! \m/  \m/

[nodtveidt]

Oh yes GUTS, you are so right. I just ran out and bought a DC and played THE MOST AWESOMENESS GAMES EVAR!! I though I was playing a PS3, those games were so freakin cool. And while I was out, I got myself a PSP too. And see, while playing some of the most innovative games ever made, I was so convinced that I was sitting inside the console, the insane graphics just sucked me right in! WOW! You were so right!!!!!! Like ZOMG how could I have been so blind!




...and if you believe a word of what I just said, you're a complete tool.

[ceti alpha]

I agree with nod where I don't think PSP games look majorly better or anything, even though I really haven't seen enough to give a good judgement. They both look like 32-bit era graphics except better to me.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I see. A slight improvement over PS1 which was pretty terrible. I agree with nat in not having much nostalgia for that era in gaming. Aside from James Bond:Golden Eye on the N64 and Tomb Raider on the PS1. Oh I did play some Soccer on the N64; sports games improved significantly.  Oh and I played Resident Evil for about a week straight once. That's it. That is the extent of my gaming in that era, besides probably plugging in my old TG-16 once in a while - if I still even had it at that time.    heh.

[nat]

My TG-16 and Genesis got me through that dark stage of video gaming. I didn't buy another new console after the 16-bit era until the GameCube. I would've bought a Dreamcast when they came out but they were too expensive-- I got a GC first.