Post #200, are there any Jaguar fans here?

[Mobius]

Had a Jag for several years now, but only ever got Tempest 2000 for it... I keep wanting to get Breakout 2000, but I've yet to pull the trigger.

[Turbo D]

Jaguar kicks ass! I have a Jag+cd+catbox. I also have a jackload of games for it.

[MurderDate]

I meant to post this yesterday..  I'm starting to think about what system I want to check out after I devour the TG16 catalog .. and I'm thinking about Jaguar.  big maybe.   I really only care about late 80s / early 90s games and the Sega CD only has two or three games that I would really care to play it looks like.  I haven't seen a whole hell of a lot in the Jaguar library that seems interesting - but I have only briefly looked.   If I'm still raging horny for video games whence the TG library is down it will come down to Neo Geo (too expensive), Sega CD (too stupid) or Jag I think.   I'm not sure. 

[rainbow_bright]

How about neo geo cd or mvs? mvs games are very cheap and the neo geo cd looks so sexy...

[MurderDate]

rainbo - I don't know what any of that means.. I'll look into it.  thanks !

[rainbow_bright]

Well..you know neo geo cd, is well not a neo aes (cart) system, but a cd system! Games are a lot cheaper. The mvs is the arcade neo geo, if you buy an aes you can get a converter and it will play mvs games, which can be bought for VERY CHEAP. Or you could buy a jamma supergun and play mvs games that way..

[td741]

The mvs is the arcade neo geo, if you buy an aes you can get a converter and it will play mvs games, which can be bought for VERY CHEAP.

I would not recommend going the AES + Converter route for MVS games.  Not all converters work for all games and some of them depends on your AES version and/or the power-supply you are using.  A 2 slot MVS board is generally a good buy as it has built-in Joystick ports for neo sticks (although it won't work with the Neo CD pads), memory card slots and earphone jacks.  All you need to do to tap the video from the JAMMA connector (or elsewhere).

[guyjin]

A 2 slot MVS board is generally a good buy as it has built-in Joystick ports for neo sticks (although it won't work with the Neo CD pads),

huh? I assumed all neo geo controllers were the same - how are the cd controllers different?

[td741]

huh? I assumed all neo geo controllers were the same - how are the cd controllers different?

Had to look it up since I couldn't quite remember:
"Just as an important note, we'll be using Ground (or 0 Volts) for our common voltage. Supposedly you can use +5V as your common voltage, but it did not work when I tried to use it on my MVS board. The AES and Neo Geo CD both use +5V as they're common voltage, however the Neo Geo joysticks will work with either Ground or +5V as they're common. The Neo CD joypads however do not work with Ground as a common, they actually require the +5V to operate."

From:
http://web.njit.edu/~jal0737/Neo-Geo/Universal_Joysticks.htm

[Pcenginefx]

Getting back on topic...

I loved the Jaguar.  Back when I was a kid I got a Jaguar for Xmas and I literally cried after opening it up.  Now I have 2 Jags, the CD-ROM unit, and the successor to the Jag - the Nuon.

One of the fun things I did with the Jag was network play DOOM.  I had 2 TVs, 2 Jags and 2 copies of Doom running and my homemade Jag link cable.....my friend and I would play that for hours killing each other.  Because of the homemade nature of the link cable it would disconnect/reconnect the game periodically.  Fun times

[TR0N]

The mvs is the arcade neo geo, if you buy an aes you can get a converter and it will play mvs games, which can be bought for VERY CHEAP.

I would not recommend going the AES + Converter route for MVS games.  Not all converters work for all games and some of them depends on your AES version and/or the power-supply you are using.  A 2 slot MVS board is generally a good buy as it has built-in Joystick ports for neo sticks (although it won't work with the Neo CD pads), memory card slots and earphone jacks.  All you need to do to tap the video from the JAMMA connector (or elsewhere).

Agreed best way to play,MVS at home is either consolized the board or run it through a supergun.

[td741]

As for the Jaguar...

I've got one and I like it.

That said, when I bought one on release I was very disappointed in the titles (If I remember correctly I had recently gotten a Neo-Geo and I also had a 3D0 system).  It took several months before we were able to actually buy any worth while titles (Iron Soldier being mostly it).  I sold off my first Jaguar around when the Playstation was released.  What annoyed me was that all sorts of titles started to come out a couple of months afterwards.

A few years later, a friend of mine was moving and I bought his old Genesis + Sega CD and Jaguar.  I bought a JagCD and started to buy some of the games.  I don't regret picking up the Jag again but right when I got Iron Soldier 2 + a few bonus disks (with the Native demo) my JagCD died.  I've looked it up and I think it's just a wire that needs soldering but I've got the soldering skills of a tapeworm.

[GUTS]

The only system worse than the Jaguar is the Virtual Boy, and that's only because the VB makes you sick- the actual VB library is way better than the Jaguar library.  Hell, the CDI had a better library.

[T2KFreeker]

Can the Jaguar handle 64-bit games of the same caliber as the Nintendo 64? Lots (for the time) of polygons and all that?

I don't know anything about the Jaguar other than it's anal-abortion of a controller is plenty reason for me to stay far, far away.

Uhm, considering that the Jaguar was made in 1994 VS the N64 that came in the late 90's, the N64 has a bit of an edge graphics wise over the Jaguar. As for the controller, what makes you hate on the control pad? If you haven't actually played with one, you don't know. The pad really is not that bad, especially if you are able to snag a Pro Controller with the six buttons on the face and trigger buttons. The key pad looks intimidating at first, but do you remember the first time you saw a control pad with more than two or three buttons? Was heavy shit back then, but the keypad has several functions and works out quite well especially with gems like AVP and DOOM. The system is awesome, especially if you are lucky enough to have snagged GORF! I was, it's awesome!

Want to see a great example of what the Jaguar can pull off graphically? Check out Battlesphere.

[T2KFreeker]

The only system worse than the Jaguar is the Virtual Boy, and that's only because the VB makes you sick- the actual VB library is way better than the Jaguar library.  Hell, the CDI had a better library.

And what Jaguar games have you played?