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Re: sealed collectors?
« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2008, 05:49:40 AM »
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Re: sealed collectors?
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2008, 04:19:35 PM »
I understand why people collect sealed games. Rare titles do nothing but slowly go up in value always when sealed over time. Its a good way to ensure you will have items to sell in the future incase you need alot of quick cash. However games are meant to be played,that other main aspect of collecting sealed stuff, its mostly for pride issues. Seeing the rare stuff sealed on a shelf in a collection room along side the normal opened collectibles, ect... is nice and impressive. Nothing wrong with any of it.

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Re: sealed collectors?
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2008, 05:03:27 PM »
I understand why people collect sealed games. Rare titles do nothing but slowly go up in value always when sealed over time. Its a good way to ensure you will have items to sell in the future incase you need alot of quick cash.

1) In my experience, most prices plateau at some point, and it's ultimately all about supply and demand.  What's popular among vintage game collectors today might not be as popular (or might be even more popular/the same) five or ten years from now.  Games are a risky investment, although you are correct in that sealed games hold/appreciate value far better than previously-played games.

2) There is a lot we do not know about the actual lifetime of the game media; the technologies used are far too young to make any kind of absolute assertion about how long a game will work until it will die.  Mysterious "bit rot" can one day ruin a game that works today.  Most/nearly-all games will likely be ok during our lifetimes, but I often wonder what the "game collector" will be like in distant generations.  (I realize that this is only tenuously related to the subject at hand, but I think it's an important point that distinguishes game collecting from more "traditional" types of collecting such as coins, art, "antiques", et. al.)

However games are meant to be played,that other main aspect of collecting sealed stuff, its mostly for pride issues. Seeing the rare stuff sealed on a shelf in a collection room along side the normal opened collectibles, ect... is nice and impressive. Nothing wrong with any of it.

I would say it's lame wankery more than "nice and impressive", but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

(As I believe I may have said in this thread already,) if a collector wants something that will serve no other purpose other than to please the eye, there are FAR better hobbies to enjoy.  And consumerism as an "investment" that will "only" be enjoyed visually (with no other interaction) can be better enjoyed with things like paintings, photography, sculpture -- or if those aren't your tastes, perhaps you like rare vintage posters, star wars figures, Japanese wood block prints, or some other nerdly hobby or interest you feel neurotic about (in a good way).

No doubt the people who do it feel some kind of happy childhood memories from having these relics from a bygone era in gaming, existing as if they were snatched right out of the 80's or 90's. I've also seen a few collectors whom I believe only want to be envied by other internet nerds, which is truly a petty and hollow pursuit.

Finally, my opinions stem from a belief that videogames, in addition to being an extremely entertaining way to spend time, are sacred and important cultural artifacts.  The fact that a sealed-game market even exists means that there is a huge (sometimes exponential) price difference for games I would like to buy.  I can not support a hobby that is in direct conflict with mine (collecting and playing games).

Is this extremism?  Probably, but I don't think having sealed games is bad per se -- I have a few, which I plan to open at some point when I play them.  Specifically, what I fully believe and support is that "sealed games collectors" are out of their freakin' minds.
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Re: sealed collectors?
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2009, 04:46:00 AM »
I'm not a collector of shrink wrapped things.  I make fanboys cringe.  I love enjoying my collectables.  When I buy something sealed, I usually open it and take it out of the package because for me it is no fun to stare at some box with a neglected toy inside.  Now I also keep all my collectables in mint condition, but I sure don't like the idea of them being cooped up inside the musty box.
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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2009, 01:02:59 PM »
I recently bought a ton of PC Engine games mostly rare and sealed and what is the first thing I did?  OPENED THEM and play the shit outta them.  That's how I roll.  I truly am disgusted with people that hold onto sealed games and screw someone else out of enjoying it just because it adds to their wet "dream"...*girly sigh*

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« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2009, 04:43:31 AM »
Personally- I am against collecting sealed games and leaving them up there on the shelf unplayed.  It's not like owning a painting and having it protected in perfect condition under a sheet of glass- paintings are meant to be looked at- videogames are meant to be played.  In that vein I completely agree with Lochlan when he says "if a collector wants something that will serve no other purpose other than to please the eye, there are FAR better hobbies to enjoy".  This is my personal opinion- and normally I wouldn't begrudge someone for their quirks- but it IS a tad frustrating when there are RARE games that I can't afford that are snapped up by people that don't even play them- and I'd say that it's a good investment but let's be honest here- most of these collector types would never sell their sealed collection which kind of makes the value meaningless- at least in my eyes.  They'll hold onto these sealed games like absolute misers until they're dead and buried/cremated/body unfound.  Perhaps their "estate" will be worth more- but I don't exactly picture most of these sealed collector types living in palaces- maybe I'm wrong but I picture a decent number of them living like paupers- forgoing a lot of simpler pleasures- like good food, living conditions, and in some instances sex and relationships- for cramped quarters full of sealed videogames. 

I myself obsess over plenty- last week I bought the dvd Blindness (critically slammed) simply because I'm a Fernando Meirelles completist- and I've bought some David Lynch stuff that I just knew was going to be terrible- but I DO watch every dvd I buy (luckily in the case of Blindness I actually enjoyed it) unless I still inexplicably haven't gotten to it (e.g. my Richard Stanley Dust Devil set though I did watch the bonus documentaries).  Like videogames- dvds have a main function not in concert with sitting sealed on a shelf. 

It's all about how rabid a person is.  I like to complete a set of some directors dvds- but keep in mind that with most directors who've done merely a handful of films- it's well wthin a normal person's budget to collect all without suffering.  That said- there's hundred of pce titles and collecting them all (even if not sealed) can become an unhealthy obsession if you're not well off.  There's also a great number of crap games- and that goes for about any relatively successful system.  Any game I buy I buy because I think I will enjoy- not to collect.  I even bought Titan thinking I'd like it.  Boy was I wrong.  I DO end up keeping the games I buy even if I wind up not liking them- but it's not like everyone out there is pining to play Titan and I'm sitting at home hoarding some rare copy sealed on a shelf.

I like my hucards loosey goose in a binder- ready to play- and I like my cds in their cases unsealed.

Lastly I really do love Tats- one of my favorite guys here for sure and funny as hell- but I do find something seriously disturbing in his having six copies of every game. :P  Sell some of those puppies to the fellas Tatswalla!  We're on your side!  We're "the good guys"!  :wink:
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« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2009, 05:40:17 AM »
Tats is stock piling for the resistance in 2027. Since they have no gun laws in Japan, they are going to need something to throw at the enemy.  :wink:

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« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2009, 06:43:53 AM »
I agree with MG, I have bought sealed games, but one of the first things I did was open them up and play them! Part of buying them was the prices were almost the same if not lower than non sealed prices. I bought a sealed Cosmic Fantasy 2, that was pretty cool to open up after being sealed for all these years.

I did end up getting a 2nd Cosmic Fantasy 2 sealed, because I am such a Working Design nut. Hopefully this is just a one off and I do not start collecting a complete sealed collection....  :lol:
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« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2009, 02:43:39 AM »
Tats is stock piling for the resistance in 2027. Since they have no gun laws in Japan, they are going to need something to throw at the enemy.  :wink:

The Tats Identity: If he ever loses his memory, like Bourne, I truly believe that Tats has high security lock boxes located in Switzerland, Germany, France, and Japan filled with HuCard technology. Tats will travel the world figuring out who he is and how he is related to project NEC.

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Re: sealed collectors?
« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2009, 08:14:19 AM »
I too wish Tat spread some of those extras around.  Hell I'd pay a good price.
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