RGB vs. Composite: screencaps (14400 baud warning ;-P)

[ccovell]

Hey, folks.  I jury-rigged my Composite/S-Video capture box for my computer to accept R/G/B+sync over the luma line, so I could capture RGB video.  Take a look below at the quality difference between regular composite and RGB, for those who have never modded their PCE or any other systems for RGB.

Sorry for the picture size, but you need large pictures to see the detail.
Composite ----> RGB


And here's Rockman 3 on the Famicom.  Composite AV Fami vs. RGB Famicom Titler.


I adjusted the contrast/saturation level of the composite images to match the vividness of the RGB picture as much as I "realistically" could (ie: the same that you could adjust on a regular TV), but RGB is still much more vivid.

[Joe Redifer]

Wow, composite is so much more gooder with its blurring to create fake colors old games were meant 2 b played in composite not RGB lol. 

That's what I get a lot over on Sega-16.com

I demand you find a way to mod my NES for RGB.  No, I don't want a Famicom titler.  I will send you my NES and you will send it back with an RGB mod and also $50 just for being graced by my NES.

[ccovell]

Yeah, I really ought to do some caps from the SMS and MD just to show how shitty composite is on those systems...   

[guyjin]

Wow, composite is so much more gooder with its blurring to create fake colors old games were meant 2 b played in composite not RGB lol. 

That's what I get a lot over on Sega-16.com

Would you rather watch a movie on 24 fps film, or 60fps video?

[Necromancer]

Would you rather watch a movie on 24 fps film, or 60fps video?

4K.

[Joe Redifer]

Would you rather watch a movie on 24 fps film, or 60fps video?

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but I'll take 24fps film.  As for Necro's "4K" comment, most films these days have a 2K digital intermediate which is barely a few lines better than 1080p.  Pathetic.

[rolins]

Hey, folks.  I jury-rigged my Composite/S-Video capture box for my computer to accept R/G/B+sync over the luma line, so I could capture RGB video.  Take a look below at the quality difference between regular composite and RGB, for those who have never modded their PCE or any other systems for RGB.

Nice. What capture device did you modified to get RGB?

[guyjin]

Would you rather watch a movie on 24 fps film, or 60fps video?

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but I'll take 24fps film. 

more is not necessarily better. 'clearer' isn't either.

[Necromancer]

I have no complaint over my Duo's composite, but the RGB screen shots look better (to me) in almost every way.  The only bad thing I see is the cracked out hot pinks (i.e. - the title ribbon and Doraemon's tongue).

One question for you Mr. Covell: why do the screens change size?

[awack]

I kinda like the composite, shading is much smoother, colors used to soften outlines are less pixelated, the smoke coming off the evil looking dude on the left looks more convincing, as for Rockman, the characters are all flesh color, but then maybe they wanted the characters to be yellow.

[Duo_R]

I like the RGB better, look at the bad guys eyes in the first screenshot. Looks awesome in RGB! His eyes look more red VS brown in composite. And wait....the middle of his head is a red dot, u can't even see that in composite (it looks black)!!! 

[somery]

LOL, Simpsons Mega Man characters.

[Joe Redifer]

more is not necessarily better. 'clearer' isn't either.

That was an awful analogy!  60i video is a downgrade to 24fps film (it doesn't actually add new frames, it just adds interlacing and 3:2 pulldown), just like composite is a downgrade from RGB.  Using your logic, then there is no need to go beyond RF.

Anyway these screen grabs don't do true RGB justice.  True RGB as displayed on a CRT will have scanlines that smooth out the "blockiness".

[guyjin]

but it was never meant to go beyond composite. the only reason it's not the same as film to video conversion is because most people don't notice 3:2 pulldown.

[Joe Redifer]

All I know is that I'd take this:



over this:



ANYDAY.