Does a Model II Genesis output RGB without Modification?

[Lucifer]

Hi.

So I ask about the model II because I have a JVC X'Eye and from what I have gathered, the Genesis part of the system is based on the Model II.

Now, I've also heard that a model II will output RGB. My X'Eye has both RCA out connectors and also the 9pin Din of the Genesis II. Could you buy a megadrive II scart cable from here.

http://www.retro-accessories.co.uk/ourshop/prod_346443-Megadrive-2Genesis-2Nomad32XSega-Pico-RGB-SCART-cable.html

And have it go into this

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333416073&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

And do you think it would work?

At the moment my X'eye is off to a friend to have it S-Video modded. I did this without knowing about RGB out from the Genesis II.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

[Black Tiger]

All Sega brand Genesis/Mega Drive systems output RGB without mods.

I'm not sure about the X'Eye, but if S-Video is good enough (looks amazing) you can use an XMD-3 for Model 2 style connections and with the 32X Model 2/Model 1 adaptor you can use it on Model 1 connections (SMS won't output sound though).

[Duo_R]

if it has the din connector should have RGB in there, and you should be able to use Mega Drive scart to adapt to the converter box you listed.

[Lucifer]

Thanks guys for the info.

I guess the only way to really know for sure is if I just bite the bullet and buy the required cables and converter.

The RGB for the Genesis was kind of an afterthought though cause my real reason for purchasing the converter was for my RGB Duo-R

[Duo_R]

If you were going to buy one for your Duo-R then it makes it less of an investment for the Xeye, just need the cable. I use that box for:

Saturn
Duo-R
Genesis II + Sega CD
Gamecube
SNES

So it really makes the most out of purchasing one of those and the picture looks great. The only drawback is that you need to find a US 12v adapter, but those are pretty common and your best bet would be like Radio Shack.

Thanks guys for the info.

I guess the only way to really know for sure is if I just bite the bullet and buy the required cables and converter.

The RGB for the Genesis was kind of an afterthought though cause my real reason for purchasing the converter was for my RGB Duo-R

[Lucifer]

Well the whole reason I even thought about that converter box was because the person who sold me the Duo-r linked to the seller on ebay for people that bought his console's and lived in NA could get in on the goodness.

I never thought about the Saturn, Genesis II, etc.

I have a Saturn and i only thought about picking up a S-video for it. But when i heard that the Saturn and the Genesis 2 can output RGB I got really interested. I then began thinking about how my X'Eye has the 9 Pin Multi Out that the Genesis 2 has, but I'm not sure if they removed the trace in any way because they did remove the actual S-video output that the JP Wondermega 2 had when they released the X'Eye in NA....If the system has the 9 pin din does that automatically mean it can do RGB?

If i would have known that the possibility of getting RGB out of the X'eye was just a scart cable away then i probably wouldn't have had sent it away for an S-video mod. I did however just finish sending an email to the dude doing it telling him to do a lil test if he can and see if the X'Eye will actually output RGB.

You mention you have the box that i was thinking of buying....Do you have it hooked to an LCD tv? Is it almost Night and Day from Composite or S-video. Do you have any comparison pics or any pics of it running? I'd really like to know.

Thanks

[Duo_R]

I have tried on the LCD screen, but honestly for these old school systems I think it looks the best on CRT. Some LCD TV's might be better, but I find it hard to beat the tube sets via RGB > Component. The initial search I did on X'Eye says that the 9 din port should have RGB output.

I noticed a pretty big difference with Saturn Svideo compared to Component, and for the Genny comparing "composhit" to Component. The Duo-R is also a nice upgrade although the composite video on that is pretty good compared to say the Genesis.

[Lucifer]

Hi.

Thanks for the info....

I just can't make a decision...This is based on having a 40" LCD tv that has both connectors.

Do i go with the RGB to Component Converter listed here. And have "pcenginesales" make me some custom RGB cables that have LR audio coming out of the cable at the connector. She mentioned she could do this.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333416073&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

or...

Do i go with the RGB to HDMI converter....This will also output audio and output to 720P. So i would not need any custom cable.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220459190446&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I've seen video of a Sega CDX hooked up to the component converter and it looked really nice(this is a video on youtube mind you)on the dude's lcd...So i know that works.

Decisions, decisions...

I wish I had some feedback on the hdmi 1 though as it would be easier and I have a free hdmi slot open on my tv still

[override]

You could always say screw the converter and build your own cable cheap!

A direct RGB,L,R cable to the din should work...You can get the cables off ebay for about $8 to cut up and make what you want with em!

[Lucifer]

You could always say screw the converter and build your own cable cheap!

A direct RGB,L,R cable to the din should work...You can get the cables off ebay for about $8 to cut up and make what you want with em!

Thats a cool idea, but i don't think I have the know how to do that kinda work.

Now pcenginesales has the know how about cables...I never thought to ask if she could make a 8pin rgb+lr to LR+component cable.

Thanks for the info.

[override]

Heck I could always make teh cable for you....Just as long as I have the pinout information. Infact Im about to order one or two of those cables, so now would be the prime time to get an xtra for your stuff. Ill splice it and throw the end you need on it, and mail it to you.

[Lucifer]

Hi.

Hmmm well I'm still thinking about what I am gonna do...I would love to see a finished product up and running

These are pics from my machine btw.

So first you would need a cable like this.
http://homepage3.nifty.com/moremaco/pcescart.JPG

Then you would need 1 end to be 8 Pin Din to connet into the RGB modded Duo-r
http://homepage3.nifty.com/moremaco/pceoutput.JPG

Then you would cut the 21 pin head off the cable and wire NTSC Component + L&R audio on the other end so it could connect to the TV right?

And the cable itself would do the conversion and there would be no need for the converter box?

I'd be interested if you think you could do it and you think it would work and get the same results as the box.

[Duo_R]

Cable could be made pretty easily if you had the scart connector but pcenginesales makes them very reaonably priced. oh and 720p isn't going to really make the picture look better but nice that it has the hdmi output. I modded my box to accept a serial plug and from there was able to make my own cables. Also does ur Duo-r have an amp built in for RGB?

[Lucifer]

Yes i believe it does have the amp inside.

As of the moment I am going composite to my tv and I'm pretty sure that it would end up being a pretty big step up in picture quality if I went RGB out and then into the tv through 1 of those boxes.

I seen a video of a dude on youtube sending a RGB output out of his Sega CDX to that component box and then into his LCD and it looked really nice.

Its too bad there isn't that much pictures for comparisons sake floating around that i could take a look at. Well I haven't been able to find that much anyways.

[Duo_R]

There are some screenshots floating around the web. Try the gamesx.com forums for one (I will link you to a post later) that has some photos. There is also a couple posts on here wth some comparison photos. Trust me it does look nice.