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Joe Redifer

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Re: Your Daily Dose of Gaming.
« Reply #825 on: August 13, 2007, 06:38:18 PM »
No, but both version have hemp clothes.

I didn't play any Exile today, even though I meant to.  Instead I played the Bioshock demo on the Xbox360.  It's OK.  I really don't like FPS games.  I definitely will not be buying it.

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« Reply #826 on: August 14, 2007, 12:40:10 PM »
The Genesis definitely has better music in the first town.
No way! That was one song that I definitely prefered way more in the Turbo version!

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On the Turbo version of Exile I could not beat the first boss when I was on level 4.  On the Genesis I got my character up to level 5 and beat the first boss in 2 hits.
Exile has some really strange difficulty balances. If you're at one level, a boss might take forever to beat and if you are just at like a level or two higher, a boss can be taken out in like one or two hits.
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

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Re: Your Daily Dose of Gaming.
« Reply #827 on: August 14, 2007, 12:57:54 PM »
Yeah, I noticed that.  Vic Ireland is awesome.  I bet he wears sunglasses at night.  I wish he would DEVELOP more games.

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« Reply #828 on: August 14, 2007, 01:40:40 PM »
Yeah, I noticed that.  Vic Ireland is awesome.  I bet he wears sunglasses at night.  I wish he would DEVELOP more games.

Has he ever developed any games?
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Re: Your Daily Dose of Gaming.
« Reply #829 on: August 14, 2007, 01:49:03 PM »
Yeah, didn't you know?  He worked for Working Designs where they DEVELOPED games like Cosmic Fantasy, Lunar and shit like that.  What a fantastic guy!

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« Reply #830 on: August 14, 2007, 02:44:13 PM »
WD is my all time favorite developer.
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Re: Your Daily Dose of Gaming.
« Reply #831 on: August 14, 2007, 02:49:51 PM »
I am about to go play Exile some more.  Please be jealous of me as I am playing.

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« Reply #832 on: August 14, 2007, 06:12:21 PM »
I am about to go play Exile some more.  Please be jealous of me as I am playing.
I am, because I don't have the Genny version of Exile (or Valis III, come to think of it). I want to play them side by side.

I also need to get the genny Lords of Thunder, and countless other titles. :)
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Re: Your Daily Dose of Gaming.
« Reply #833 on: August 19, 2007, 04:36:08 PM »
Nekketsu Legend Baseballer (the baseball RPG) - Been trying to complete this one.  So far... it's not all that great, but I'm a good 4/5 of the way through, so I'll just finish it off.

R-Type Complete.  Damn, bullet-hell shooters be damned - this game kicks my ass.

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« Reply #834 on: August 19, 2007, 04:40:20 PM »
Last Resort,3 Count Bout,and Metal Slug 3 MVS.

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Re: Your Daily Dose of Gaming.
« Reply #835 on: August 19, 2007, 06:40:01 PM »
Since today is my one day off during the week right now, I went out and managed to track down a copy of Exile for Genesis locally(although I had to pay extra for the luxury).

I played through both games, clearing a stage/area on one version and then the other. I was surprised both by just how great the graphics are in the Turbo version(some of the best for Turbo/PCE) and by how big of a hit they took in the Genesis version. At least the Genesis version still uses the same artwork for almost everything and still looks nice.

I like the music in the Genesis version as much as or more than the Turbo's CD tunes(I'm partial to system generated music). I like how much of the cinemas are intact on the Genesis version too, even though I think that Valis III kept more.

Both versions have a tiny amount of flicker that only happens in a couple areas. When it happens on the Turbo version, part of it is from enemies that are off screen. The Genesis version had a floating pixel in front of Sandler's head in at least one area(forgot to keep track of it after that) and a glitchy flickering foreground piece in another. In the first dungeon on the bottom floor, part of the ground acts as foreground, even though it shouldn't, and cuts off the enemies. The PC Engine version glitches during fade in & outs. Frozen Utopia Beta testers will know what I'm talking about. :wink:

The biggest difference between the two is gameplay. The Turbo version pauses before jumping, to do the antic animation, while the Genesis version jumps almost instantly. I'd rather lose the frame of animation altogether if it meant quicker a response. The camera screws you over more on the Genesis version, getting the player stuck near the edge of the screen more often.

The Genesis version feels weird moving the player through the air during jumps. I tried the Mode button, but it makes no difference. The enemy layout is different and the Genesis version has many areas with fewer enemies, but lots of cheap placement. Like an archer standing in front of a door, so when you come back out you automatically take a hit.

The Genesis version is way easier overall(my memory had it backwards), but a couple bosses in particular are stupid difficult in the Turbo version. It took me forever to try to beat the bird boss. I went up a few levels and bought a ton of healing items and still couldn't kill it after what seemed like a half hour of constant hits using the best equipment. So I realized that there must be one more event to trigger to remove the boss's invincibility or something... three hits later he actually died.

So what happened when I tried it on the Genesis version with weaker equipment, several levels lower? It died in two hits. :dance:

Once it got late and I neared the end, I played only the Turbo version through the last few areas. Once I reached the final boss, it was the bird boss situation all over again. I maxed out my level, had the best equipment in the game and as many healing items as I could hold. I must've given him over a hundred hits each time before dying.

So on a hunch, I tried loading my save file with the PC Engine version(which has a cool Reno intro cinema). You'll never guess what happened... he died in like 6 hits. :wink: Wow. I like Working Designs' games and appreciate what they've contributed to the 'community' and everything, but they really wrecked some of their games with their difficulty 'fixes'.

I really appreciate WD taking Exile's localization seriously, except for a few lines. It just goes to show the great job they could do when not joking around and the difference it makes to games that aren't supposed to be pop cutlture or low-brow wacky.

I like how the third to last boss is Simon Belmont and the second to last boss is the final boss from Zelda II. :P

Both games kick ass and I can't recommend them enough. 8)
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Re: Your Daily Dose of Gaming.
« Reply #836 on: August 19, 2007, 07:22:35 PM »
Varth from Capcom... ♥♥♥♥♥♥

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Re: Your Daily Dose of Gaming.
« Reply #837 on: August 19, 2007, 07:27:00 PM »
Awesome comparison, Black_Tiger, thanks for all the info!

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I was surprised both by just how great the graphics are in the Turbo version(some of the best for Turbo/PCE) and by how big of a hit they took in the Genesis version.
FINALLY someone who agrees with me on Exile's graphics! I always found Exile to have beautiful graphics! My favorite was always the waterfall that would appear in some places like the sewer place and later at the end with a bloody waterfall. I always loved the sprites (especially of people) in the 2D parts. It just looks extremely unique and fresh.
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Re: Your Daily Dose of Gaming.
« Reply #838 on: August 19, 2007, 07:32:33 PM »
I grew up playing THIS Exile series... ∩_∩

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Re: Your Daily Dose of Gaming.
« Reply #839 on: August 19, 2007, 07:38:17 PM »
I grew up playing THIS Exile series... ∩_∩

I've always heard of those whenever I would do searches for the Turbo Exiles. I never knew anything about those games, but thanks for the link because they look pretty cool!
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).