Pier Solar may be released soon?!?

[Arkhan]

The new CD is just a Bin/Cue for download on their site. They aren't pressing.

Oh I misunderstood that they ARE pressing new ones.

lolol so they ripped the bin/cue themselves, took out the extras and said DONT COPY THE GOOD ONE.

wow.

[Mathius]

Here is a vid by MN12BIRD (cool guy) giving a detailed look at the packaging is any of you are interested.

[Joe Redifer]

I haven't even looked at the extras on my disc yet.  It started skipping after about 5 seconds so I said "Eff dis" and made a CDR which works perfectly.

One of the team members tells me that perhaps the materials used to make CDs these days are different and can't be read as well by the Sega CD.  Ummm... OK.

[Mathius]

I haven't even looked at the extras on my disc yet.  It started skipping after about 5 seconds so I said "Eff dis" and made a CDR which works perfectly.

One of the team members tells me that perhaps the materials used to make CDs these days are different and can't be read as well by the Sega CD.  Ummm... OK.

Hmm...I am starting to think that they just screwed the disc up and won't admit it. I know some of yous guys have already alluded to that fact, but I trusted them too much I guess. Don't get me wrong, I still love them for what they have done for all of us. I just wish they would be more honest.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Got mine today, Blast Processing since 1988!!  Awesome 

[Arkhan]

I haven't even looked at the extras on my disc yet.  It started skipping after about 5 seconds so I said "Eff dis" and made a CDR which works perfectly.

One of the team members tells me that perhaps the materials used to make CDs these days are different and can't be read as well by the Sega CD.  Ummm... OK.

Oh ffs.  What a moronic statement.

Look at Insanity.

Pressed for your playing excitement on OLDER f*ckING HARDWARE.

give me a break.  a goddamn SCSI CD drive reads the discs fine. 

when are they going to admit Changs Speedy CD Plessing Hut f*cked up and gave them a crappy batch of discs.

Instead of coming up with excuses why not call the guys up and go THESE ARE MESSED UP. REFUND US. SEND GOOD ONES. DO SOMETHING.

In fact Insanity is read by my Sega CD.  I went and checked.

*shrug* Whatever. 

[BlueBMW]

My Sega CD plays CDRs a whole lot better than my Duo.  Ill agree modern CDrs aren't as good as the old ones but how does one screw up a proffessionally pressed cd?

[nodtveidt]

Chinese CD manufacturers do not adhere to the rigid standards of pressing houses in the USA. Manufacturing CDs is a very delicate operation that has to be done under the highest level of care and expertise. This is especially the case for making the glass master... the environment in which the master is made has to be precisely controlled, and even the replication process has to always follow a strict standard of environmental conditions. One piece of dust gets in the process and the thing's f*cked... might as well toss it out and start all over again. When it comes to glass mastering, that's even more literal... one piece of dust really WILL f*ck the whole thing and you HAVE to start over... at least during replication, a piece of dust will only f*ck the current disc (though it's still ruined and has to be done over). The problem is that this issue is all too common with Chinese CD manufacturers... and they don't f*cking care. If you get a bad batch of CDs from a Chinese manufacturer, good luck having anything done about it aside from sucking it up and taking a loss. Pressing in the USA will cost you more but at least you know you're gonna get a working product.

Cart manufacturing, on the other hand, is just a matter of paying attention. Yes, manufacturing ROM chips also requires a strict environmental standard, but assembling a cart only requires that one pays the f*ck attention to what they're doing and doesn't drill a screw through the ROM chip or circuit board (or both if you're doing glop-tops).

[ParanoiaDragon]

I played it a bit on my CDX, seems to work just fine, there was maybe one time where it took the music a bit to load.

[Joe Redifer]

Actually there are no ROM chips used on the board.  It's ROM "Goo", kind of like PC Engine HuCards.

[Necromancer]

Actually there are no ROM chips used on the board.  It's ROM "Goo", kind of like PC Engine HuCards.

Funny pic, but what do you think is under that 'goo'?  Like HuCards, that's a glob top protecting the components and allowing use of smaller (flimsier) wiring.

[Joe Redifer]

You can see three things if you look closely.

[TheOldMan]

The "Goo" is actually insulator/sealer. It takes the place of the plastic carrier you normally associate with chips, protecting it from harm.

And, if you are real careful, you can peel the goo off, and see what the actual chip die looks like. You can also split a plastic carrier (hot razor knife works) and compare them. But either operation will most likely rip the tiny wires off the die, rendering the chip useless.

At least, the chips I used didn't work afterwards... :-)

[oldskool]

My Pier Solar US edition has been working flawlessly for me in BOTH my CDX, and my X'Eye.  Not sure if I am lucky, or if people just have worn out hardware. 

And to those who have not played it yet, I assure you, it's an AWESOME game.  And I am not even a big fan of Japnese style RPG's.  It has some unique features in the game that I have yet to see in other RPG's.  Not to mention the graphics and the sounds are amazing.

Did anyone here post a link to an official ISO copy of the original disc?  If not I can dupe mine.  And if it doesn't work in your hardware, then maybe it does have something to do with worn out lasers - since I know mine works great.

As one of those people that "patiently waited" for over 2 years - I do have to agree that it kind of sucks for the people that are still interested in it to have to pay more and get less.  But it is what it is.  And what it is, is an awesome Genesis game for $45 (Shipped).

While I do agree that the few of us that actually had faith in them do deserve "extras", I don't believe that we should have got that many extras to those buyers of the second print.  I think the omision of the color manal is no big deal really.  But I do think that everyone deserves the enchanced CD.  It is nice that you still have the option to burn one off if you want to experience it, but I also do agree.

I do think that some people are going a bit overboard about the whole situation too, that's for sure. 

I think there is WAY too much homebrew slamming around here, it's pretty pathetic really. 

[Arkhan]

Well, when you got people like what was his name, Clessy?  Yeah when theres people like that, it really doesn't help the "pro homebrew" side of things.

The games not even the problem here, its really just the way in which the publishing was done.   Lots of people got a nice kick to the sack, and a "tough shit" from the dev. team. 

The game itself looks kick-ass.