Playstation Network PWNED

[ceti alpha]

What the 360 has over the ps3 is ease of development.

Wasn't that Hudson's philosophy when developing the PCE?

I honestly can never tell the difference between 360 and PS3 ports. Sometimes one port might be shaded slightly darker or lighter, but for the most part they're identical. I'm sure the scale tips both ways depending on what game you're comparing.

Anyway, I think Sony will come out of this with a scar or two, but still standing. People love to pick sides like it's a sport, but competition is a good thing. Even in an unlikely scenario where Sony really was in dire straights, Microsoft might even throw them a billion dollar bone to stay afloat, like they did to Apple when they were on the brink. The last thing Microsoft wants now is to be in control of a monopoly again. It's all fun and games until the lawsuits and threats from governments start coming.

[Arkhan]

Yeah.

I can usually tell the difference but I'm tarded enough to do side by sides just because.

Neithers really "better", theyre just different.

[TR0N]

Hmm acording to bloomberg how the hack happen was amazon fault 
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-13/sony-network-said-to-have-been-invaded-by-hackers-using-amazon-com-server.html

[TheOldMan]

I took that to mean it was just where the attack was launched from. One more layer of  stuff to
track through. (But I bet the amazon info is all faked/stolen).
Anyone see that the Japaneese government isn't letting Sony re-start the network in Japan until they can satisfactorily explain why it happened and what they have done about it? That's a big loss right there for Sony:)

[TheOldMan]

And yet again....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/18/psn-logins-exploited-again-sony-takes-sign-in-pages-offline/

[Arkhan]

well, thats just an oversight, and not a full blown hack that time.

Its like the final bit of dust to shove into the dustpan, basically.

[nectarsis]

well, thats just an oversight, and not a full blown hack that time.

Its like the final bit of dust to shove into the dustpan, basically.

Exactly.  Seems to many people are just looking for something to point out ("SEE, SEE!!)/whine about.

[TheOldMan]

well, thats just an oversight, and not a full blown hack that time.

True, but it's an oversight at a time sony can ill afford one. Everyone is watching, and mistakes like that are gonna be used later in a "you screwed it up last time. Why should we trust you now...?" arguement.

Exactly.  Seems to many people are just looking for something to point out ("SEE, SEE!!)/whine about.

Don't think so. The Japaneese goverment says sony can't go back on-line there until all these issues are cleared up. Every time sony gets it wrong, it costs them money. And just imagine the fallout if japaneese gamers can't connect for another month or so, until the -government- vets the new network. <ouch>

I do give sony credit; they still have a couple of weeks to go, and they started putting the network back on-line already. But I just don't see how they can positively identify users to re-connect the accounts if any information they might use has been stolen, and -could possibly- be used by the hackers. I guess they are just gonna have to go with machine-id verification until this whole thing gets sorted out. Meaning even if you just want to change your psn password, you have to do it from the original machine

I do wonder if machine id's / ips were part of the stolen data, though. If so, we may see someone (finding a way of) faking them for the next round...And I do believe there -will- be a next round....

[Arkhan]

Japanese security is very obnoxious.  They question everything where I work. (We do international stuff).  They don't dick around. 

[guyjin]

good lord. a month later, and they still can't get it right... 

[Arkhan]

good lord. a month later, and they still can't get it right... 

this is the same thing though.  Its not a new occurrence or new security leak.  Its an oversight of the original issue....

[TheOldMan]

And they're still at it...

security firm F-secure has found a live phishing site running on Sony's Thailand servers. "Basically this means that Sony has been hacked, again."

[TheOldMan]

Okay, it's not the psn, but....

"Hackers: 6, Sony: 0. It appears an attacker has performed a SQL injection attack against SonyMusic.gr"

I do, however, agree with this:

It would cost far less to perform thorough penetration tests than to suffer the loss of trust, fines, disclosure costs and loss of reputation these incidents have resulted in.

I'll shut up about this now ....

[Sparky]

ya thanks as we all can read and come to our own conclusions.

Sony is keeping us updated just fine and hopefully this media circus train will stop 
Ya i have not been able to play on line for awhile... oooh boo hoo hoooo... i am still left with a system that works fully.

But wait yes my max out credit card and personal info has been hacked... pffft i will believe it when i see it.

[Arkhan]

I gave Fray some penetration tests.