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SuperDeadite

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FM Synth vs MIDI
« on: January 06, 2012, 07:57:57 PM »
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 04:37:18 AM by SuperDeadite »
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 11:37:15 PM »
Quote from: SuperDeadite on January 06, 2012, 07:57:57 PM
Let's do this!  All recordings will be done from a real X68000 and Roland CM-500 Synth Module.

Battle 1:  Magical Block Carat


I really like the Midi here.


  Oh yeah!

STATUS:
07:37 AM - Currently listening...whilst I sip morning coffee.
07:44 AM - Second time 'round...more coffee.
07:54 AM - Third round...

FMMIDI
INTROOK. Best part? The footsteps-cum-percussion at the tail end.Richer, fuller
TRACK1Better overall, but only because I hate the backing guitars in MIDIGorgeous lead synth/organ! Simply divine! Horrible (staccato) backing guitars really detract from this otherwise amazing track.
TRACK2SUPERIOR, but damn that noise (high-pitched) prevent FM from sounding as clean as MIDIThe MIDI xylophone/steel drum(?) is grating and annoying. The FM track is nuanced and has nice details, the MIDI is heavy-handed and irritating (xylophone ringing in my ear).

There was a lot of noise (Track 2 especially) that detracted from the FM, which had a lower overall volume than MIDI. Equalizing the volume might make the comparison more equitable?

BOTTOM LINE: I enjoyed both FM and MIDI. :)

« Last Edit: January 07, 2012, 12:34:51 AM by esteban »
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 11:40:28 PM »
Not a fan of the MIDI-guitars but otherwise they both have their good and bad side - I like them both, generally speaking. Sometimes MIDI surprises with how good it can be, but also how bland it can be  :-k
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2012, 12:35:43 AM »
Why say MIDI? MIDI doesn't sound at all.
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2012, 05:05:33 AM »
Quote from: Tatsujin on January 07, 2012, 12:35:43 AM
Why say MIDI? MIDI doesn't sound at all.

Yeah, I don't get this MIDI is just digital sheet music.
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 05:23:14 AM »
Quote from: SignOfZeta on January 07, 2012, 05:05:33 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on January 07, 2012, 12:35:43 AM
Why say MIDI? MIDI doesn't sound at all.

Yeah, I don't get this MIDI is just digital sheet music.

Yes I'm aware of this.  Problem is different games use different synths.  A lot of X68k games support MT-32 and SC-55 which sound quite different from each other.  The topic title is simply to keep things clean.  :)
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2012, 01:23:28 PM »
That makes no sense.

What do you call a MarkIII without FM sound?

The Fm sound seems to have it's own flavour while the midi is only as serious as the composer. From you have told me, it should be possible to converter midi fm, and whatever.

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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2012, 11:41:32 PM »
Quote from: RegalSin on January 08, 2012, 01:23:28 PM
What do you call a MarkIII without FM sound?

I'd call it a Mark III
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 03:01:28 AM »
Quote from: SuperDeadite on January 08, 2012, 11:41:32 PM
Quote from: RegalSin on January 08, 2012, 01:23:28 PM
What do you call a MarkIII without FM sound?

I'd call it a Mark III

Lol,  makes completely sense.
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 05:53:07 PM »
Quote from: SignOfZeta on January 07, 2012, 05:05:33 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on January 07, 2012, 12:35:43 AM
Why say MIDI? MIDI doesn't sound at all.

Yeah, I don't get this MIDI is just digital sheet music.

MIDI is just digital nonsense, not even just sheet music!  You can use that crap to control stage lighting.  It's wild.


The comparison exists to show FM vs. MIDI with whichever MIDI device was picked.

MIDI can sound amazing, or completely terrible.  All depends on the box being used.
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2012, 09:52:33 PM »
Quote from: Arkhan on January 09, 2012, 05:53:07 PM
MIDI can sound amazing, or completely terrible.  All depends on the box being used.

Yeah, and exactly this box can be FM in several kinds as well. So it's like FM vs. Midi (= several FM and/or any other PSG, PCM or what ever music chip(s) is used)
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 10:43:57 PM »
Quote from: Tatsujin on January 09, 2012, 09:52:33 PM
Quote from: Arkhan on January 09, 2012, 05:53:07 PM
MIDI can sound amazing, or completely terrible.  All depends on the box being used.

Yeah, and exactly this box can be FM in several kinds as well. So it's like FM vs. Midi (= several FM and/or any other PSG, PCM or what ever music chip(s) is used)

right , but with the right MIDI box (MT-32), you are going to destroy FM, every time.

Ultima VI is a good example of this too

Adlib vs. MT32.  You'll pee yo'self.
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2012, 11:25:07 PM »
I like the MT-32 used for most of the sega arcade classics. SC-55 sure sounds very different and more like "instrumental".
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2012, 12:23:58 AM »
Quote from: Tatsujin on January 09, 2012, 11:25:07 PM
I like the MT-32 used for most of the sega arcade classics. SC-55 sure sounds very different and more like "instrumental".

MT-32 is my favorite.

The worstest ever part of MIDI is the Windows GM crap. 

it sounds worse than cheesepianos of the late 80s/early 90s
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Re: FM Synth vs MIDI
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2012, 12:08:41 PM »
You mean the programmed instruments. Yes their are many MIDI programs out their that all sounds differnt.
 
So what does the PC engine use to run the music that is not voice, or sound recordings.
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